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Some fans may feel aggrieved, but their concerns will be outweighed by the financial advantages for the clubs.

"Clubs will see this as a chance to make more money so they can invest in new facilities and better players."

How about all that extra money goes back to the UK fanbase? Reduce ticket prices, get real fans back, try and persuade Boro to sell-out a game for once etc etc.

What's the betting it will go into the pockets of players and agents instead?

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Those 10 extra games would be played at venues around the world, with cities bidding for the right to stage them.

It is understood the additional fixtures could be determined by a draw but that the top-five teams could be seeded to avoid playing each other.

Wow...I can just see cities all over the world desperately fighting to have the honor of staging Birmingham versus Derby or Wigan versus Sunderland. icon_lol.gif

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As a home season ticket holder for the past 15 years, member for the past 28 or so, as long as they pay for my flights and accomadation I'll gladely attend a home match in Atlanta or Miami. icon_lol.gif Like fu*k they will!!!

Football will drown in an ocean of greed and become a soulless ghost of its former-self.

Manu

Liverpool

Derby

Villa are all owned by yanks.....coincidence 300.gif

If this ever happens, which it eventually will.......I will never and I mean NEVER attend another match unless my nephew-to-be is playing!

Football RIP dead.gif

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Some fans may feel aggrieved, but their concerns will be outweighed by the financial advantages for the clubs.

"Clubs will see this as a chance to make more money so they can invest in new facilities and better players."

How about all that extra money goes back to the UK fanbase? Reduce ticket prices, get real fans back, try and persuade Boro to sell-out a game for once etc etc.

What's the betting it will go into the pockets of players and agents instead?

In the words of Dr. McCoy from Star Trek, "it's football Jim, but not as we know it".

Mike, just been listening to the debate over this on radio and one of the administrators of the Football Supporter's Association asked if EPL club chairmen will ever see the light and target brand loyalty in terms of history, culture and tradition over increased corporate sponsorship, emerging markets and new sources of revenue?

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Mike, It's already happend mate - I know that. But to think we could play a home game, say a London derby, in China fills me with dread.

I know they couldn't really give a sh*t about the man on the turnstile, but for too long now i fell like I've had the piss ripped out of me. Taking away the bars FROM SEASON TICKET HOLDERS in the MHU and giving them to the corporates from the East middle. (They won't even let you have a piss on the way out!!) The price of tickets, the kick off times...Sunday afternoon's / Monday nights, this all add's to the lack of atmosphere, something that has also deteriorated since the introduction of all-seater stadiums.

The next big thing around the corner, which is more a worry will be the TV contract. When that comes up for renewal you can forget the premier league as one negotiating it, the clubs will do their own deals. (how many clubs have their own channels now) Franchise football or no relegation will be next. Guaranteed TV revenues and a merchandising revenue that doesn't have to be shared.

I read your post regarding the distance in relationship between players and fans I know what you mean......With every season (as a lifelong supporter) I think we have a little more air squeezed out of us, become more defranchised, pushed further away, until the day everyone turns around and say 'f**k it - I don't think I'll bovver'

TV is the key here ($$$$$$$), and I wouldn't even watch it on the telly if it went that far.

It's only my addiction, or more-so nowdays the Saturday's spent with my dad and brother that keep me hanging on in there. I'd wash my hands with the whole lot if they started taking that away from me aswell!

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I hadn't seen this thread when I replied/reacted to this one:

http://theshedend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?...&p=95360#p95360

Here, there, wherever, it doesn't matter - my sentiments remain the same. The entire thing reeks of greed and nothing else. Beginning of the end? If this goes through it might well be the final straw as far as I'm concerned.

Oh. And now some c**t of a Liverscum fan with a noticeably non-scouse accent is calling in "I think there's a bit of an over-reaction here", says he.

f**king halfwit.

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More and more fans (real fans) are ditching the clubs they have loved all their lives and gowing to see their local lower league clubs, it is not just about the amount you're expected to pay to get into top flight games but also the overwhelming feeling that they are taking the royal piss out of us.

I've said many times that although my son will grow up to be Cheslea through and through, the club he'll see most regularly will be Southend! Now that for me is sad!

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More and more fans (real fans) are ditching the clubs they have loved all their lives and gowing to see their local lower league clubs, it is not just about the amount you're expected to pay to get into top flight games but also the overwhelming feeling that they are taking the royal piss out of us.

I've said many times that although my son will grow up to be Cheslea through and through, the club he'll see most regularly will be Southend! Now that for me is sad!

Had the exact same conversation with an Arsenal fan who now goes over Orient last night, another mate who is West Ham goes over Southend aswell.

I have visited Millwall a few times over the past couple of years, mainly because it's round the corner and there was a ticket begging, but the general atmosphere on the way in and out of the den reminds me of Chelsea when the shed was terrace and it was the run of the mill supporters going, not a Miles or Joshua or Japanese fella with a camera in sight.

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Come to think of it, when would the draw for these extra matches be made and at what point are the top five teams determined that won't be able to drawn against eachother? They couldn't possibly wait until spring to see which are the top five teams before they make the draw for the 39th match, could they? And if they make the draw before the start of the season and determine the protected teams by looking at the teams in the top five of the previous season, you could still see teams drawn against eachother that are in the top five at the end of the current season.

And imagine a scenario where two teams are neck and neck battling for the title and both teams need a win to secure the title and hope that the other team slips. The other team gets drawn against a team that has already been doomed for relegation while the other team gets the team in sixth place that is battling to secure a place in Europe and with the right results, has a chance to win a place in the UCL qualifiers. 300.gif

The players are playing too many matches per season anyway and now they want them to play even more? smack_head.gif

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I was wondering what Glory had to say on this.

Fans getting f**ked over again actions1.gif Disgraceful - they really don't give a flying sh*t about us mate, thats the truth of it.

Money ruins everything!!Just look at the music industry once money became the only object for some.

Only thing we can do to 'kick 'em where it hurts' is stop going to games, it's sad but it's the only way - mass boycott up and down the country.

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Why is it not enough to have the teams flying all over the world enhancing their global image and strengthening their brand during the pre-season, but now the FA feels they need to do it during the regular season as well? I'm sure some newly promoted clubs might find it difficult to afford the silly "away" trip to some far away destination. What if it leads to clubs having to cut down on their player budget to be able to afford the trip to the 39th match? The league's not gonna pay the travelling costs are they?

And what's gonna happen when the novelty wears off and they start struggling to find willing cities to host the less desirable matches?

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More and more fans (real fans) are ditching the clubs they have loved all their lives and gowing to see their local lower league clubs, it is not just about the amount you're expected to pay to get into top flight games but also the overwhelming feeling that they are taking the royal piss out of us.

I've said many times that although my son will grow up to be Cheslea through and through, the club he'll see most regularly will be Southend! Now that for me is sad!

Had the exact same conversation with an Arsenal fan who now goes over Orient last night, another mate who is West Ham goes over Southend aswell.

I have visited Millwall a few times over the past couple of years, mainly because it's round the corner and there was a ticket begging, but the general atmosphere on the way in and out of the den reminds me of Chelsea when the shed was terrace and it was the run of the mill supporters going, not a Miles or Joshua or Japanese fella with a camera in sight.

This is where I am now. 28 yrs a CFC member, 15 years an ST holder with a true blue son who I take every week to Kingstonian. 5 Chels matches a season, feeling less and less connection etc etc.

I've got to the point of viewing fans of 'the Big Four' as not real football fans. Bizarre and untrue, but you get my drift....

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Im up for a MATCH boycot if we can properly sort it!

At this moment im actually up for a full scale good old english riot!

This has just gone too far and I hope ALL supporters up and down the country (even Le*ds) make their voices heard!

How can they do this to us???

This is a liberty of the highest order!!

While im being honest I hope we get relegated so we dont have to stand for any of this sh*t!!

Has anybody thought what consequences this could have for The FA Cup??

Seeing that this sh*t is going to be happening in January,it might well finish the competition as we know it!!

And as for the League Cup I think they might scrap the competition all together!!

Im f**king fuming!!

Our football is a serious part of our heritage,we cant just let them mess with it!

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Flicking over between the ANC semi and Talksport, I caught part of an interview with Harry Redknapp, who made the point that this is likely to be ... the first of many. Eventually, according to him, each club will play several, or perhaps even the majority of their games abroad.

My local league team is Swansea City, who I said I could never support because I've been there with Chelsea. Even now I don't think I could. But come the day, joining my mate the ex-plastic Scouser on the TERRACES at non-league Llanelli Town looks a very tempting proposition, and I mean as a supporter, not just a spectator.

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That's what I'm getting at. If and when the time comes when Chelsea play most of their games abroad, then as far as I'm concerned Chelsea FC will no longer be Chelsea FC. I'm not the only one who's joked about sponsor-inspired name changes. Right now that doesn't seem quite so far fetched. This is a f**king nightmare.

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how the hell do they work out who deserves the extra points for playing these extra games?? And more games is ridiculous.

and, if your home game against another club is the one to be played abroad, do the fans get the cost of that ticket back in their season ticket. What about losing home advantage?

Can you imagine a season like this, in the League Cup final, FA cup quarters and semis, CL next rounds or semis, 3rd or 1st in the League, African Nations, qualifiers for WC or European Champs and then a quick trip to LA to play a league game? Fricking crazy.

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That's what I'm getting at. If and when the time comes when Chelsea play most of their games abroad, then as far as I'm concerned Chelsea FC will no longer be Chelsea FC. I'm not the only one who's joked about sponsor-inspired name changes. Right now that doesn't seem quite so far fetched. This is a f*****g nightmare.

Hear hear!

We are Chelsea Fc,it exists only because of us.

If they decide to change what they bought into,then it will cease to exist.

Its a scary thought.....

....but reassuringly I have no doubt that the sprit of the club will move with the supporters.

Wherever we go,we'll follow are team!!!

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i completely agree that the quest for extra money is a ruinous development, but i can't agree with some of the sentiment here that this is an "American" problem. Exhibit A is the fact that English football has had advertising on its shirts for years, and when a few of America's major sports tried something like during an exhibition game, the uproar was furious and the owners backed down.

i'm certainly not saying that American sports owners aren't greedy; far from it. i can point you towards hundreds of sickening developments over the past 10-20 years (the most important baseball games are played late at night on the east coast so that the west coast TV stations will draw better, leading to kids falling asleep or staying up past midnight to watch the best games; multiple timeouts in the middle of games to accommodate TV revenue; etc. etc). I just don't think you can blame Americans for this. this is symptomatic of a larger issue, where corporate ownership mentalities are running boardrooms.

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