heckel Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Losing today was a bitter experience. Very bitter. However, looking at the season and the longterm it may be a blessing. I think Mourinho used this cup in his first year as a very effective lever for going on to better things - silverware in the bag, create that winning feeling etc. As we've won it twice now with most of the same personnel this aspect of 'being winners' is no longer really useful - it is after all a minor competition. If Grant had won this cup it might be insurance against poor results later in the season. He will not now be able to hang back with the safe knowledge that he's a proven 'winner' and let the other three competitions get away from us. For if he does not win anything this season, his stint with us will surely be short. If he does, then ... roll it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Losing today was a bitter experience.Very bitter. However, looking at the season and the longterm it may be a blessing. I think Mourinho used this cup in his first year as a very effective lever for going on to better things - silverware in the bag, create that winning feeling etc. As we've won it twice now with most of the same personnel this aspect of 'being winners' is no longer really useful - it is after all a minor competition. If Grant had won this cup it might be insurance against poor results later in the season. He will not now be able to hang back with the safe knowledge that he's a proven 'winner' and let the other three competitions get away from us. For if he does not win anything this season, his stint with us will surely be short. If he does, then ... roll it on! I like the half full approach although I think a loss today should be put into perspective, looking at the Mourinho route then results wise Grant was about twenty minutes from the same sort of record as Jose and I stand by my argument that the players should shoulder some blame for the loss today. as you say it might just spur us on, Grant could even go sh*t or bust and realise caution is not the name of his game and start trying to win from the off, Its been a habit for a while that we dont seem to get going until we are behind and that needs to stop, motivation surely should have been there in a cup final so I cant see why the team looked so lethargic, still been through all this, just to say good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerie Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Winning the Carling Cup would have papered over the cracks, I agree. Perhaps now everyone (especially at the club, WE already know!) realizes we have problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim W Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Winning the Carling Cup would have papered over the cracks, I agree. Perhaps now everyone (especially at the club, WE already know!) realizes we have problems. Some hope at a club where a £74 m loss is positive and wages account for 71% of the income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy66 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 To be quiet honest since the draw at Portsmouth we have not been playing well at all.We have most of the "so called big players back " is this down to the manager or is it the players?,what i saw yesterday was a joke . A manager who at xtra time left the team talk for jt.I know its not a big cup,but the way we have been playing lately we will not win anything? frustrated fan? ps we always beat spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The idea that we might win the league or the CL after yesterday's dismal showing is just laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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