has to be said this kid looks the real deal. So often with wingers lennon and walcott to name 2 rely on pace to outstrip a defender and then put in an okay ball. but this kid has technique as well as raw pace looks like the real deal. he can certainly pick a pass and i can see defenders being terrified of him as he can go either side. Potentially looks a worldbeater and can put the bale hype to shame

We could possibly loan Kakuta to Anderlecht instead of De Bruyne and give De Bruyne some first team action here. As much as I would like to see Kakuta be given opportunities at chelsea,i think, he would find it difficult competing against the likes of our other strikers or midfieders at the moment. Some regular football would help him and a quality winger like De Bruyne could help us when we need some flair on the flanks..

Any update on this? Seems a shame that transfer talk seems to have died down - I'd be just as happy with signing this lad as I would if we signed Neymar, especially since he would cost a fraction of the price and seems to have a far better attitude.

Any update on this? Seems a shame that transfer talk seems to have died down - I'd be just as happy with signing this lad as I would if we signed Neymar, especially since he would cost a fraction of the price and seems to have a far better attitude.

I'd also say that he has a fraction of the talent; would much rather have Neymar, but De Bruyne would be a satisfactory consolation prize.

I'd also say that he has a fraction of the talent; would much rather have Neymar, but De Bruyne would be a satisfactory consolation prize.

I agree but not to play down De Bruyne. He could become another Robben, while Neymar could become another Ronaldo. Obviously one's potential exceeds the others but I wouldn't turn either down. De Bruyne has a strength advantage over Neymar atm and thats about it. I am however really happy that we're being linked with young, exciting wingers for once.

Anyone actually seen this guy play? I haven't, so that youtube video is all I've got. And it looks exactly the type of clip that makes a decent player look great.

I agree but not to play down De Bruyne. He could become another Robben, while Neymar could become another Ronaldo.

i think neymar could become another balotelli, loads of potential wasted because of terrible attitude

i think neymar could become another balotelli, loads of potential wasted because of terrible attitude

There's no doubt that he's the bigger risk, but the potential upside is far greater and (for me at least) makes him worth taking a chance on. It's also worth remembering that he'd be coming in to a dressing room with a good team connection and a lot of good guys who'll try and help him along; rather than at City where they were probably all too busy watching their own highlight videos to even ask poor Mario his name :P

And if he can put on his bib without getting tangled in it, then its settled. :D

i think neymar could become another balotelli, loads of potential wasted because of terrible attitude

I don't buy this nonsense about his attitude. I've yet to see him give anything less than 100% in every game. What he does off the pitch isn't a concern for me, thats his private life. I've watched him a lot this season and he always delivers.

i think neymar could become another balotelli, loads of potential wasted because of terrible attitude

Yes, but even then Balotelli is capable of pure magic at times, and Neymar is double the player Balotelli is.

I don't buy this nonsense about his attitude. I've yet to see him give anything less than 100% in every game. What he does off the pitch isn't a concern for me, thats his private life. I've watched him a lot this season and he always delivers.

a couple of seasons ago he got into a big fight with the manager and a few of his teammates because the manager didnt let him take the penalty . . . to me thats extremely unprofessional and disrespectful, he was 17-18 at the time ffs

that fight was so serious that, basically, one of them (neymar or the manager) had to leave the club. and i dont blame the manager for not allowing him to take the penalty after this

and then theres his diving, which is threatening to surpass ronaldos proportions by a mile

a couple of seasons ago he got into a big fight with the manager and a few of his teammates because the manager didnt let him take the penalty . . . to me thats extremely unprofessional and disrespectful, he was 17-18 at the time ffs

As you say, though, he was only 17 at the time - He was still a child. The amount of exposure he had in Brazil at that age was bound to make him an arrogant twat, but one would expect him to mature as he gets older and generally calm down.

As for the diving, with the right coaching it's possible to get someone to stop it (look at Drogba for example) so I don't think that's even an issue.

So he scuffed a penalty? So did John Terry in the CL final. Should we throw him out because of that?

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I can't speak for you, but the Police drove me home drunk out of my mind a few times when I was 17. Imagine being a millionaire and famous at 17, I'd go completely off the rails.

My point is, I really don't care how much of a prick he is or what he does off the pitch the same way my colleagues don't really care what a twat I was as a teenager. He's a phenomenal footballer and has delivered consistently at a high level every time I've seen him last season (and I've seen him a lot). The only downside to his game is the diving, which in itself is exaggerated. He doesn't dive constantly, but he does like to make a meal of tackles. He is also fouled disproportionately to everyone else on his team and is probably sick of being singled out.

That can be trained out of him. Drogba used to be a horrific diver too, but I believe that was drummed into him by Mourinho - he is nowhere near as bad these days. If he was sulking on the pitch during matches or wondering around not bothering at all then I'd agree with you that his attitude is terrible. But he doesn't do that, he puts a shift in defensively, offensively and in the buildup every time I see him. His attitude is fine, its his personality you have a problem with.

That can be trained out of him. Drogba used to be a horrific diver too, but I believe that was drummed into him by Mourinho - he is nowhere near as bad these days.

That was something that had occurred to me too. Lane mentioned Ronaldo's diving in passing in his post; I wonder whether he would dive as much as he does if he hadn't played under Fergie and then Mourinho - two managers that appear to encourage diving (or, at least, tend to have a lot of players that dive excessively).

That was something that had occurred to me too. Lane mentioned Ronaldo's diving in passing in his post; I wonder whether he would dive as much as he does if he hadn't played under Fergie and then Mourinho - two managers that appear to encourage diving (or, at least, tend to have a lot of players that dive excessively).

I think so. Fergie and Mourinho are "win at all costs" managers, regardless of the type of football they need to play or what sort of disingenuous tactics they need to employ - and I like Mourinho. At least Barcelona are pleasing to the eye while they dive around. :P

So he scuffed a penalty? So did John Terry in the CL final. Should we throw him out because of that?

if you cant tell the difference between terrys penalty and the one i posted then im not gonna bother explaining it

My point is, I really don't care how much of a prick he is or what he does off the pitch the same way my colleagues don't really care what a twat I was as a teenager.

yet he was a prick on the pitch.

yes, i know the fact he was a teenager doesnt make things as serious but i still think hes a liability and i wouldnt want him at chelsea. i dont think feel hell cope well with being a star

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if you cant tell the difference between terrys penalty and the one i posted then im not gonna bother explaining it

There is no difference. A scuffed penalty is a scuffed penalty. Happens to everyone, even the best.

yet he was a prick on the pitch.

yes, i know the fact he was a teenager doesnt make things as serious but i still think hes a liability and i wouldnt want him at chelsea

If you're going to declare this with such authority I want to see some evidence of him being a twat on the pitch. Being a liability means he'll come on games and adversely affect the teams performance by either not trying at all or complaining/sulking. Diving doesn't qualify him as a liability as he does it to help his team (albeit by cheating). I've never, ever seen him do that. If you've got video evidence of it happening then feel free to show me.

There is no difference. A scuffed penalty is a scuffed penalty. Happens to everyone, even the best.

theres difference, youd have to be a freaking idiot not to see it. terry slipped, neymar was more interested in being a star rather than scoring

If you're going to declare this with such authority I want to see some evidence of him being a twat on the pitch. Being a liability means he'll come on games and adversely affect the teams performance by either not trying at all or complaining/sulking.

i already posted how he got into a big fight with the manager and his teammates, thats a fact its not just my impression. he was suspended for 2 games from the national team over it.

and he affected the team by taking that penalty like a cheeky c/nt

theres difference, youd have to be a freaking idiot not to see it. terry slipped, neymar was more interested in being a star rather than scoring

How do you know? Did he tell you that? All I saw was him taking a penalty, opting to shoot at the middle of goal and it failed. How you're drawing all this nonsense about him trying to be a star by taking a penalty kick is beyond reason. Teams select penalty takers, ours is Lampard and he misses, theirs is Neymar and he missed. So what? Penalty kicks are a game of chance.

i already posted how he got into a big fight with the manager and his teammates, thats a fact its not just my impression. he was suspended for 2 games from the national team over it.

and he affected the team by taking that penalty like a cheeky c/nt

Again, how do you know what actually went on? I suppose you can tell us all about what happened to Wilkins as well. How about why Mourinho really left? I'm pretty interested to get the facts.

Its all your opinion which is suspiciously close to the tabloids take on these issues. Him being selected to take a penalty kick and missing makes him a liability to his team? By that logic, Lampard is a liability to our team, because he too misses occasionally. Straw man argument with no substance except personal feelings. My opinions on Neymar are based on a season of watching him, not what the papers write - and based on that season I believe his work ethic is second to none, his drive to win is absolute and his talent is unquestionable. What he does off the pitch is as unimportant as what I do when I leave work. I've seen some people criticise him because of his hairstyle. It seriously makes me question the sensibilities of some fans sometimes.

Neymar is a major talent. There's a reason everyone's talking about him. You don't see many footballers having that much of an impact at such young age.

If there's any chance of getting him, there's no doubt in my mind we should go for it. I said it before and I'll say it again: he's a star player, a difference maker, these are the type of footballers that make a difference between winning and losing a game.

The last closest thing we had to him was Robben and Neymar has a potential to be even better.

How do you know? Did he tell you that? All I saw was him taking a penalty, opting to shoot at the middle of goal and it failed. How you're drawing all this nonsense about him trying to be a star by taking a penalty kick is beyond reason. Teams select penalty takers, ours is Lampard and he misses, theirs is Neymar and he missed. So what? Penalty kicks are a game of chance.

I think its obvious he was trying to chip it down the middle. And in a Brazilian league match too. How dare he.. No, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it either. Taking a penalty is a battle of wits. Of course it can make you look cocky and stupid at times but it happens to the best of them.

Again, how do you know what actually went on? I suppose you can tell us all about what happened to Wilkins as well. How about why Mourinho really left? I'm pretty interested to get the facts.

I think the game he's talking about is the game after that miss, where he was asked to give up penalty duties and looked a bit disinterested(to me) during the rest of the match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TkvqlU9XCs&feature=player_embedded

Again, given the age, I don't see such behavior as surprising for a kid who as degoey said has been made out to be a star since a young age. I'd be worried there was something wrong with him if he didn't throw a tantrum or two.:P

So he wins the penalty, the manager doesn't let him take it and he gets pissed off. At what point does he give up on the game and start sulking (like we've seen Drogba do before)? He still pulls out all his tricks and stops, schooling defenders and putting in a shift despite being pissed off. Thats what makes him a professional and beyond worthy of signing. As I said, people seem to have an issue with his personality (especially funny since these people don't actually know him) or how he presents himself, which has no bearing on his ability as a professional footballer whatsoever.

Lets face it, even if we do get Neymar, If Real Madrid come calling in a couple of years, he is going to want to go. (his agent already wants him to play only there). He is simply not going to be a club legend if he comes to chelsea, rather just a fantastic player who left to Real Madrid/ Barcelona in a couple of years.

I'd rather have us spending on players like Lukkaku who dream to play for Chelsea and help them grow to be world class. Makes more sense in the long run.

Tbh, I'm not bothered about a player becoming a legend, and if he was to go in 2 years, if that ment doubling our money and getting two great seasons out of him. Then I don't mind tbh!