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Yep, but we'd still be worse off if we brought in Wilson.

Not sure how ignoring someone counts as bullying, myself. Any road up, not gonna interact with that lad in case I gets accused of bullying, like in school.

aaaah, that lad. yep - has been ignored since he was sussed as a Spud on a wind-up, I think. Seems a tad knowledgeable about the history of the forum for someone who joined up in May last year, and seems like a very angry young man. Not sure how ignoring someone is " harrassing anyone who doesn't fit their extreme view of what a Chelsea can be, think and say. " but there you go.

Did I miss something?

When we actually battled was some of the most exciting stuff around. Sometimes it was just inevitable and the whole aura around the season was one of bored resignation. That's the ones I meant. To be honest, I think I found Mourinho dragging us down to almost the relegation zone boring, if I can remember. It's been a while, but there was an air of resignation that season too.

Then you are wrong.

He's Wilson's agent, mate. Joined a week ago and has only posted that we should buy Wilson (apart from asking for tickets one time). Perhaps he thinks we have any influence over player purchases.

Never any reason to apologise, mate. I understand enthusiasm :)

What match were you watching? We were as far from getting battered as it is possible to be. Correct choice of language will ALWAYS help you get your point across. Blatant hyperbole just makes you look a tiny bit silly.

I find it odd that so many people can be bored watching us dominate teams, going 12 (or however many it was) matches unbeaten, and really taking to the possession-based style of playing out incredibly well under the most intense pressure. Personally, I'm enjoying the ride. If you want boring, try struggling through a relegation season.

You think so? I think his value has dropped considerably this season, as people have seen that he is quite a donkey when it comes to quick one-touch football. On the BBC scorer's list he has 8, the same as Mitrovic, Glenn Murray and Gylfi Sigurdsson. Only 1 more than Pedro. And I know how much we in this forum love our goal-scoring stats as a measure of a player.

But, sadly, not when playing in the Premier League

He's not underrated, he's rated exactly as he should be and is playing at the level he warrants. Whenever I've seen him play he looks distinctly average, and I've never seen anything resembling "good" passing.

I'm not arguing with that @Nibs, but people getting all hatey at Willian because he doesn't score when he never has is just simplistic and lazy, and is just scapegoating a player for the wrong reasons. He has other attributes that contribute to the team but which a lot of people won't accept or credit. Still, people have to have a hate-figure of the moment, don't they? Otherwise, what is there to whine about? "I'll never forgive him for posting a picture with trophies over a manager that I didn't like anyway" FFS!

Would be nice if a striker could do it now and again

I really can't keep on telling you, mate. Willian is an attacking mid-fielder and his primary role is not scoring goals. Any that he does score is a bonus. He has never been primarily a goal-scorer, wherever he has played. And yet top club and international managers keep on selecting him. I think you and many others might be confusing what his role is with what you WANT his role to be, and consequently judging his performance against standards to which he should not be held. By all means criticise the occasions when he just doesn't perform at all, and I will agree with you there have been some of those over the years. But judge him on the role he is asked to play, not on what you want him to do. And never judge the player's performance based on what he posted on twatter or pictogram 9 months ago. (when a huge number of people in here were crying out for Conte to go, by the way!)

So he's not involved in the market, then?

Thank you, exactly what I have been trying to get across forever.

Which is exactly what you want and need from an attacking midfielder, which is what he is. Just because the telly format/lineup thing shows him in a pretty picture at right wing, doesn't mean a thing. He is and always has been an attacking midfielder with strong defensive capabilities. (I'm not saying that he has played to those strengths this year,mind) Oh what we would give for a strker who scored one out of every three chances he got, regardless of how awful the other two misses were. And I don't think that either of the two chances he missed were simple tap-ins, or obvious gimmes. I'm not sure why you would say they were really poor corners, other than it's become a mantra now and we didn't score from any of them. Hazard's corners were, at best, no better, and probably worse. As for the stopping, that has become the way we play and has been for years. It's not just Willian, all the team do it most of the time, Hazard is the worst culprit, along with Dave, but neither of those get slated for it. Again, it's become a lazy way of slamming a player you don't like. I know he upset you with his pictogram thing of the cup final celebrations, and I think that is informing your dislike somewhat. But, we've had this discussion many times. I think you're wrong, but you have an opinion, so you carry on. I will say that Joe Cole, amongst many other professionals and pundits, is on my side.

I won't argue with a lot of you, I think there are so many people who come in here with preconceptions and stereotypical ideas, and so grab onto anything that validates those preconceptions. Regardless of how much you want to believe it, Willian did not have a bad game today. I'm always happy to criticise when a player plays badly, but it's f**king ridiculous some of what you people post, and has absolutely no relationship to reality. Still, at least we didn't have some dick celebrating because Willian got injured this time, eh?

I've seen you post a couple of times somwething like this Scott. Exacrly HOW is he having a poor game today?

willian is f**king sh*te. Right?

Yep, as several people have already said, you were too big a disrespectful twat last time you joined up, so you rightly got banned, you've slithered in here again under another idiot user name and are still too big a disrespectful twat so will get banned again. Won't be nothing to do with me, as I'm just ignoring your infantile rants.

hint, hint - The ignore button is your friend Bloke's been tiresome and whiney since he joined.

I don't think you should get flamed for that, I think you have hit the nail exactly on the head. He's listed on some website I quoted the other day as "attacking midfield". The problem in here is that the majority don't understand that, so abuse him for not scoring so much as they want or expect. He has ALWAYS been an attacking midfielder, and that was how he played against us in Europe which led to us buying him in the first place. He's never been a great goalscorer, but is abused now for having "no end product". I agree with some people, we could do with an upgrade on him now, but he is nowhere near as bad as people in here like to make out, and I agree with @abramovich above, he is a much better player than his critics give him credit for.