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Robinho is crap. I am glad we didn't waste so much money on him.

That wasn't even intentional...you can't judge a player just because he tackles for the ball. That was a 50-50 just like Shawcross vs Ramsey. Uncluky for the suffering lad but I see zero intentions of injuring the player here.

Was a kid some time ago. So let's not be rude! And you perceive any sort of justification for your thoughts as argument. Well, if justifying what I think is an argument for you, then, yes I like arguing. Xfactor - no issues mate. Glad we agree. I am just tired of people looking for some random CM just to make a number of signings! I do actually believe Chelsea know it and this is just papers nonsense (a quick look at the Rumours forum gives you: Dembele, Tiote,Fellaini, Ganso, Modric, Kagawa, Montolivo + some people in random rumours all being mentioned and all in central positions where we have so many players).

Because an important part of spending money on a player is whether you need this player and will he improve your team. The answer to both questions for me is no. So it's a pretty good argument against a transfer rumour...

1. I don't think Meireles is as bad as you make him sound like. Our whole team was a wreck so you can't expect miracles from Meireles. He had a few very good games in CL. 2. I don't think Dembele is a sensation deep lying playmaker to say he is much better than anything we've got. He was pretty average for an average side like Fulham. And I certainly rate Frankie much higher than Dembele anyway. Can't justify in my head spending, what, 15m pounds? just to upset all our other central midfielders. Dembele is not the type of player that will raise our level enough to justify such a move. And btw, if he can't defend properly I don't care how good his passing it. Michael, Raul and Frankie are all better defensively than him.

SO who's gonna play as left midfielder!? Oxlade vs Downing...both mediocre at best.

Oh, btw, what's with the Young through the middle thing? It confused me yesterday totally. Young has been quite good on the left wing so why is he not playing there instead of Oxlade who obviously lacks at that level. I mean isnt Walcott - Milner - Parker - Young .... Gerrard .... Rooney/Welbeck much better?

It can't be as bad as Liverpool themselves. There aren't 8 teams in the group!

Downing, Henderson, Caroll, Kelly, Johnson, Oxlade, Walcott ... at least it will be funny. Condolences to all members from England haha

Nothing wrong with Micah. But there is clearly something wrong with Woy.

It's a jaw injury. Can't be more than 2-3 weeks but that's enough to rule him out of Euros..

This England squad is turning into a bigger joke every single day. At least some of our lads will get a rest but must be terrible for both him and Frankie...both likely to start. Commenting on the replacements is not even worth it - is that 7 players from the biggest joke in Premier League now?

The only thing Tiote is better at is his long range shots. Defensively, I can't for the life of me say who's better. Don't think we need him. There seem to be a lot of rumours on CMs/DMs and I am not convinced we need a player at either of the positions. I think it is just paper talk.

Bruma's going back to HSV next season I believe. And Kane is as far from playing against, say, Tevez as I am from playing like Mata. Does anyone know anything more about this lad? Better than VDW? I haven't seen anything from either ;/

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1085379/ajax's-gregory-van-der-wiel-keen-on-chelsea?cc=5739 Of course he would be keen, what's going on in the other direction is anyone's guess.

Was going to replace 3 years with 8 years just like Drogba but decided to stick with 3 for the sake of argument. JM is a legend and he is 100% right. I will only judge him when he leaves us...Just like everyone else. Was just trying to point out that it is far too early to stop the discussions on Hulk. Anyway, enough for today. Seppi-Djokovic is far too exciting to stay in the forums!

We will. In December, when he's played 20-odd games for us and we can conclude on whether he is worth the money or not... Or maybe in 3 years time, like Drogba. He could be a slow starter, too, for what we know...Torress discussion is still ongiong 1.5 years after he came, so what's wrong with discussing even before the transfer is announced? Isn't that what discussion boards are for?

Why would I not be objective? I am not a Porto fan (if anything, I support Benfica in Portugal...). I am in no way related to Hulk. I am just as objective as you are but the difference is that I will judge whether he is worth the money when he starts playing for us, while you have for some reason decided that he is not worth the money without even giving him a chance for Chelsea. Who's not objective now? And the above quotes were in relation to the comment that you need to get a reality check before arguing with me as you obviously either forgot what you said or did not read what I said.

Again read these posts in chronological order bearing in mind Kagawa plays as an AMC 90% of the time (can give you a ton of evidence from the internet) and tell me I am wrong. Edit: Missed one of my quotes - "Please don't correct me when I am right, OK? His skills are more suited to an AMC role IMO but he still plays on the wing very, very well. I'd know, I've seen 20+ games of him in the last two seasons." Yeah, of course the problem is with me...

I'll put it that way - for me, it is on par with Torres's finishing and Torres's finishing against popular trends right now is actually quite solid, which for a RW is great. Personal opinion, obviously. FM12 seems to disagree, giving Torres a 17 and Hulk a 15 ;/

Again read my and your posts. You clearly have some issues to sort out before arguing with me.

That's the only option I see. And maybe Milan as they need rebuilding as many experienced players are gone and Liverpool at a stretch, but I can't see Essien wanting to leave for Liverpool. Can't think of anyone else.

Napoli don't need him ATM. They have 3 very good CMs... Meireles might be a target if they sell someone. As a fan of their football and as my favorite team in Italy, I'd love him there but he is not better than either of Inler, Gargano or Dzemaili IMO, so I wouldn't see them spending so much on a potential sub.

You won't find many clubs prepared to pay his wages (90k pw?) while no one knows if he is going to get an injury in a couple of months...10m is optimistic. We'd be lucky to sell him for a lot less considering the wages we pay him. I can't see any club investing more than 5m for him and even then he might not want to go. As I said before, he hasn't had a proper pre-season preparation last season and injured himself again. You never know - he might rebound. I wouldn't right him off immediately considering that we are unlikely to get much for him as a transfer.

Better check my and your previous posts. You do need a reality check.