chelsealovefc

Honestly do you feel I've said anything that should get me kicked? I questioned one person for disrespecting Gerrard, said I'm not a fan of JT, and my other 6000 posts have been trying to explain myself to everybody. I've got no problem getting a long with people, I just prefer to talk to people who are more open-minded and willing to look at both sides of things. And good one Ozz

Interesting you bring up RAWK, because I have posted on there before, and I have posted on redcafe (united forum) as well. They allow open discussion on their forum for other clubs. They allow fans from other clubs to come and (at least tempt) to talk sensibly with their members. That's why they have so much more activity over there, because they don't go ban you for not being a united supporter, or for not being a Liverpool supporter... Every forum should be like that. Forums who don't allow members of other clubs to come openly chat just want to live in their own little world where they are always right and their club and players are the only ones that matter. Close-minded.

Look, all I'm saying is there's no reason to disrespect a player because you don't like the club they play for. You don't like LIverpool because of the rivalry, and that's fine, but there's a difference between being strong-minded and passionate with a rivalry, and just being flat out close-minded. I used to sit around and talk about how much I hated united all the time, because I really couldn't stand them or their supporters. But when you start to open your mind and accept the fact that many of the other clubs players and supporters are just like your own, you start to realize that you have no reason to just be angry and bitter about them all the time. Instead, you acknowledge when they play well, respect the players that deserve respect, and in the end you enjoy the game so much more. Now I absolutely love talking football with united supporters that are open-minded and willing to talk sensible. It's hard to do at fist, but once you stop being bias and allow other to talk about the sport with you regardless of who they support, you enjoy the game so much more.

So you don't like their fans? It's one thing to say their fans don't know how to respect other clubs properly, but when you go and do the same aren't you yourself being hypocritical? Liverpool have played quite well against Chelsea in the last few years, so I can understand fans being angry they've lost so many games to them (although arguably winning the most important one) but there's no need to disrespect players. That's all I'm saying.

No because I've acknowledge that he's a good player, and I've never said anything about him not being English or not trying hard. I have said I don't like the person he is, and there's nothing wrong with that. I just said I don't rate him as much as most of you clearly do (and yes I do rate him). I didn't say he's not English, and I'm not attacking an entire football club for no reason at all. Was I disrespectful at all? No. I just said I'm not a fan of what he's done.

I'm trying to figure out why he's so bitter against Gerrard and Liverpool? So that's perfectly relevant.. I was asking if that's why in a sarcastic way because what he's saying makes no sense. I can understand you being rivals, but don't be angry and bitter to them, just know that you'll get a good game from them, one you can look forward to. I don't see any reason Chelsea supporters should be bitter towards Liverpool, or Liverpool supporters towards Chelsea. And there's definitely no reason any English supporter should be bitter about Gerrard considering he's completely poured his heart and soul into England, and in retrospect it will probably harm Liverpool now because at his age these games will catch him during the season. At least show a little respect where it's deserved

Probably one of the most irrelevant and pointless things I've ever seen. Why so bitter against Liverpool? Because Torres has underachieved.... Yes that's all their fault? No reason to be bitter between clubs just because they compete. I can see Liverpool being angry at the Torres situation... for a couple weeks then you move on.

Seriously? you're going to use that? He's is one of the least ethical people at the club (hopefully). I'm not saying he's not a good player, I just clearly don't rate him as much as the lot of you. And the defending at chelsea for the last couple seasons hasn't been as good as it needs to be. Luiz came and we thought he was going to be amazing but he does get caught out too often, same with Cole but that's expected from an attacking position. Ivanovic has been good so no complaints there, but the Chelsea defense could definitely be better.

Bit of a pointless tournament, but one Chelsea should have no trouble winning. It seems the South AMerican club always puts up quite a fight tho, and according to Neymar, Santos are the second best club in the world because they lost in the final to Barca... Shut up kid.

It's funny so many say Lescott is the weak link because so many other non-chelsea fans have said Lescott was great, and JT was the under-performer. Still don't see what Spain don't start Torres or at least Llorente up top. Mata doesn't get to play because he's one of the most underrated players in the Spain squad. Not quite as good as Silva, but he's similar in ability. I thought Meireles was playing relatively well for portugal as he usually does. Cole missed a pen but other than that was solid. Cech had an interesting tournament I guess you could say. Always glad to see Shev put in a performance like he did against Sweden. I felt Gerrard was England's best player, and if not him than probably Hart. Not that it's relevant or any of you want to hear that.

Don't want him anywhere near the club, or even the premier league. He's one of the biggest cheats out there, and as a full back that can be costly in a more physical league. He dives all the time and when he doesn't get calls, they will run straight past the defense as he lays on the ground rolling in fake agony.

Haha, he was not England's best player at Euro. Walcott, Gerrard and Hart all played better than he did. Let's not be bias now.. And he's not the player he used to be, not even close. He's made a lot of mistakes this last season and it's clear that much like Ferdinand and Carra, his time is coming. I'm not a big fan of JT. I guess I actually care what type of people represent the club and JT doesn't exactly represent the club in a good way... Give me all the stick you want for it but that's just how I am. I don't get the MLS rumor with Lamps considering they said they wanted him on a free when he's still under contract? Doesn't really make sense.. But like I said he's still got it in him so there's no reason to sell him unless somebody comes in with a really high offer since he's gone next year anyway.

If you guys expect chelsea to sign him as a back up to Torres and Hazard, he's not gonna come here. He's only 22 years old, but he's already shown he's a natural goal scorer. If Liverpool offer him a starting spot, which at this point in time they clearly can, he'll more than likely end up there. If he ends up in London because he was offered more money... Well who wants that type of player anyway?

Exactly. Absolutely nothing in this at all.

He deserves to move on and get some play time elsewhere to finish off his career, so good for him. I don't think he'd be expected to be anything more than a squad player at Liverpool, so I don't think he'll end up there. Not sure there's any real interest anyways.