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^ what's the point?

Is one game the yardstick now? He's been pretty reliable for brazil.

1 was an interim. the other 2 got 2+ seasons so not our shortest appointments. In retrospect, who wouldn't want the job? So much money for potentially so little work.

Counter bleed_blues argument, have him dismiss it for some grounds that ironically is the basis of his own argument, then have him throw the same tired argument back at you, then try not to call him a twat. Nothing to do with forcing opinion on him, everything to do with telling a twat that they are in fact, a twat. If you actually bothered to discuss things you'd get a far warmer reception. A certain other forum banned him ages ago.

This is all a f**king ploy. It was probably planned all along for rio to get his call up and w**k fest then for him to pull out at the last minute and not actually be able to play. Blatant set up I cant see it any other way.

What an over dramatic claim. Get a grip.

I had the view new content bookmarked, for those who would like to use it in the meanwhile. http://www.theshedend.com/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=viewNewContent&search_app=forums

If his urgency effected the team so badly as effecting the way they want to play, he would have been gone ages ago. I highly doubt players are being told to change their game to accommodate mikel.

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Do you think mikel did nothing when he came on?

When all else fails attack the poster.

Once again statistics' context only matter when it suits your argument.

Hodgson wont recall him. If he does he's lost his marbles.

Haha, you complained about people using that very line on you now you use it on other people. You really do only accept things when they suit you. The other players in the game matter when we win with mikel, but when we lose it's all his fault. Truly amazing logic on your part. How can you lose? When all else fails, insult the poster. Debating 101.

Keep blaming that solely on mikel you wum. Its sure helped people take you seriously before.

It's kind of disheartening when you brush off a good performance with 'gave away possession twice' and 'united were dead on their feet' =/ They played on tuesday, we played on thursday our players must have been knackered too. He played like we all know he can, just needs to do it more often. We've also seen that he can do it more often. Someone else having a better game is not a valid criticism either sorry.

So yes we must repeat ourselves then? Then again certain posters aren't adverse to repeating themselves, even in the light of counter argument.

So we must repeat ourselves? Then the same sh*t can be brought up again and its on us to have do it... again...

Another top, top quality post.

I'd respond, but what's the point? None of these people want to debate. They are only interested in a mikel insult match. Who can say the worst they can. Worst in the roman era, what a joke. Next I'll be asked to explain what a footballer looks like. O, wait.

Nope.

^ Not sure they are for CL wins. But even then they'd be the exception because madrid, barcelona, united etc. dont have stars. The patch on their sleeve looks more like what you get these days. Either way its a pretty weird system.

Be grateful people bother to put effort into responding to garbage. You are implying he doesn't resemble a footballer, that is just laughable. Really.

Most of this has been proven wrong many times, especially that passing backwards stat. It's quite frustrating when these things get debunked but the next day the same old party lines are brought out again. You'd think managers would drop him if he didn't do what was asked but 6 years down the line and he still starts games. Maybe you mikel detractors should start targeting managers.

Zzzz, another top quality post.