Where do we go from here?

[RobJP]

First of all.. WE ARE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!

That'll never get old.

Ok, business, i think we all agree that changes have to be made, so here are mine.

To be done, get rid of:

Kalouless

Malouda

Bosingwa ­

Meireles

Hilario

Loan:

De Bruyne

Lukaku

Piazon ­

McEchran (to somehwere that actually plays him) ­

Courtois

Everyone else already on loan

Must keep,­ despite interest:

Ivanovic

Ramires

Luiz

In: ­

Marin (sealed)

Hazard

A good young striker (eg.­ schurrle)

Anybody who isn't terrible or old or too expensive.

Manager:

Jose. If not, we keep RDM. ­

The team:

GK- Cech

LB- Cole

CB- Terry

CB-­ Luiz/Cahill

RB- Ivanovic

CM- Lamps

CM- Mikel

CAM-­ Mata

LW- Hazard/Marin

RW- Ramires

ST- Torres ­

N.B. We can mix things up, i.e if its not working drop ramires into the middle and bring on which of marin/hazard isnt playing or perhaps sturridge. but i'm no tactician, just saying this line up gives us options.

Subs:

Turnbull

Luiz/Cahill

Bertrand

Romeu

Essien ­

Sturridge

Hazard/Marin

We must keep torres, he­ is world class. even when he is not scoring he plays­ better than half the team. The drog... if he isnt­ willing to take a 1 year contract then we must let him­ go. its sad i know, but i dont believe he has 2 years­ in him. that being said, we cant let him go to barca and maybe we could offr him 1 year with a possible extension based on performance?­

Torres needs to get regular football, and whilst i­ agree drogba has been better this year, next year we­ must give fernando our full support IF drgoba goes. ­ ive probably missed some things, but hey-ho.

Thoughts?

[Uno]

Hilario signed a new one year deal a few months back.

[RobJP]

Hilario signed a new one year deal a few months back.

Fair enough, not a pressing matter as he is 3rd choice.

[Uno]

He is better than Turnbull.

[RobJP]

He is better than Turnbull.

Neither is world class, but i think turnbull edges it.

[Lane]

dont want to see kdb sent on loan. im certain he will prove he can be an asset this season

[RobJP]

dont want to see kdb sent on loan. im certain he will prove he can be an asset this season

has it not been agreed that he was going on loan for another season? thought i read that somewhere, might be wrong though.

[Lane]

has it not been agreed that he was going on loan for another season? thought i read that somewhere, might be wrong though.

i dont think it has. i think people were expecting it just because hes not a big name signing and is coming from a significantly weaker league. but ive watched some of his games and i think the boy is class. he needs game time and needs to learn form lampard

[ducavis]

Ramires is not a RW!!!

[RobJP]

i dont think it has. i think people were expecting it just because hes not a big name signing and is coming from a significantly weaker league. but ive watched some of his games and i think the boy is class. he needs game time and needs to learn form lampard

Well in that case good, cant say ive seen much of him tbh but ive heard good things.

By all means, we should keep him here if we're going to play him, but we dont want another lukaku situation where he barely plays.

[RobJP]

Ramires is not a RW!!!

i know, i know, but we've played him there recently.

and he's been on fire, even though it isnt his natural role, and he should be in the first team.

where would you play him? he's not a CDM and i think lampard still has what it takes in CM. and mata needs to play the 'david silva role' in CAM (even though hes better than silva).

so what would you do with ramires?

[Uno]

I think KDB said he expects to go on loan next season but i guess if he impresses in Pre season then he may stay.

[RobJP]

I think KDB said he expects to go on loan next season but i guess if he impresses in Pre season then he may stay.

That's up to the manager to decide, after all i'm not there in training or pre season to judge.

If we keep him here he needs regular football, simple.

[Uno]

If he is good enough he will play simple as that really. The only thing is, he has been fantastic playing the number 10 role second half of the season but here at Chelsea we have Mata. Is he going to keep Mata out of the team? IF he can then we will have one hell of a player on our hands. How ever i have my doubts. Maybe he will be used more on the left hand side, replacing the out going Kalou or maybe Malouda.

[RobJP]

If he is good enough he will play simple as that really. The only thing is, he has been fantastic playing the number 10 role second half of the season but here at Chelsea we have Mata. Is he going to keep Mata out of the team? IF he can then we will have one hell of a player on our hands. How ever i have my doubts. Maybe he will be used more on the left hand side, replacing the out going Kalou or maybe Malouda.

i dont think he will push mata out the team, because i think mata is better suited to the centre, behind the striker.

kdb, marin and hazard (if we sign him) will be battling for the left and probably right wings. which is good, we need wingers.

who is best, and best for chelsea, in the epl, in those roles? we cant say until we see them in a blue shirt i suppose.

and yes, he should replace kalou and malouda, they need to go imo.

Edited May 21, 2012 by RobJP

[Lane]

If he is good enough he will play simple as that really. The only thing is, he has been fantastic playing the number 10 role second half of the season but here at Chelsea we have Mata. Is he going to keep Mata out of the team? IF he can then we will have one hell of a player on our hands. How ever i have my doubts. Maybe he will be used more on the left hand side, replacing the out going Kalou or maybe Malouda.

actually hes been playing as a cm so if he was to keep anyone out of the team it would be lampard. but he is also good on the wing, certainly better than kalou or malouda so i think hell get plenty of chances in the cups or coming off the bench in the league

[HisDogSpot]

Why get rid of Meireles? he's been decent at the business end of the season and I think maybe give Kalou 1 more season I haven't been his biggest fan but he can perform when it counts.

[RobJP]

Why get rid of Meireles? he's been decent at the business end of the season and I think maybe give Kalou 1 more season I haven't been his biggest fan but he can perform when it counts.

if you watch him, more than half of meireles' passes go to the opposition. he has his moments, and can hit a blinding ball, but he ust gives it away constantly.

that being said, ive no idea who we would replace him with, so i guess we should keep him unless we sign someone better, but i dont think he should start.

kalou? i think time to get rid, almost always makes the wrong or no decision and gives the ball away. i dont think hes good enough.

[Uno]

Kalou is out of contract. I doubt he would sign a 1 year deal with us when he can go else where on a free.

I think Kalou is a good squad player but from what i understand he wants to be a starter and i dont think Chelsea can offer that to him.

It was in the press that other day that he has opened the door to go back to Holland and join one of their big teams.

[FWK]

Why should we let Meireles go?

We need squad players, Lamps can't play 40+ games next season.

[RobJP]

Why should we let Meireles go?

We need squad players, Lamps can't play 40+ games next season.

Yes thats true.

like ive said, if we dont find a replacement we should keep him but he should not be a regular. back-up.

[CodyBound]

Why get rid of Meireles? he's been decent at the business end of the season and I think maybe give Kalou 1 more season I haven't been his biggest fan but he can perform when it counts.

Agree with Meireles. As for Kalou, he has plenty of seasons and consistently failed to prove himself; i think it's time to say thank you for your time here and move on.

And I have said this so many times on various threads when people start talking about him: KDB is going back on loan to Genk. It was part of the deal when we signed him.

[Lane]

And I have said this so many times on various threads when people start talking about him: KDB is going back on loan to Genk. It was part of the deal when we signed him.

this is from his interview

What is the plan for the rest of the season?

I signed now and now I will go back for six months on loan to play some games and gain more experience. Next season it would be normal to be loaned out, but I will start the preparations here at Cobham, and if it goes really well maybe I will stay but probably it will be a team a little level less than Chelsea but bigger than Genk.

http://www.chelseafc...2594667,00.html

so either what youre saying isnt true, or no one has informed him that hes going to spend another year at genk (which i find hard to believe)

Edited May 21, 2012 by Lane

[RobJP]

Agree with Meireles. As for Kalou, he has plenty of seasons and consistently failed to prove himself; i think it's time to say thank you for your time here and move on.

And I have said this so many times on various threads when people start talking about him: KDB is going back on loan to Genk. It was part of the deal when we signed him.

keep meireles if we dont sign anyone better, but he shouldnt start.

totally agreed about kalou.

yeah i did think i read that about kdb, it'll be good for him i reckon.

[evissy]

I'd say Malouda should go. He has had good seasons for us but he is done for Chelsea.

Essien has completely lost his pace and courage with the injuries. He still can do a job in Italy I think. Slower paced league. He is great passer and has a fierce shot but this league is too pacey for the bison, I'm afraid. Maybe the break will do him well but just can't see it atm.

I'm not too keen in Meireles as well although he scored some good goals to us he isn't exactly what we need in our midfield. I'd replace him with a player like Modric.

Bosingwa is okay being backup for Ivanovic but Paulo can do a job as well. I think one of them might go.

Kalou has done well since Di Matteo took over. If we are willing to realize he will never score hatful and will never be a sure starter his off-the-bench record must be very good. I actually don't mind him staying. Can't really believe I'm saying this though. Live and learn.