Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

The Shed End - Chelsea FC Forums

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Panda

Members
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  1. Conte was a far better player than that. He wasn't Zidane, but he was the captain of a Juventus side that reached two consecutive CL finals. And Paolo Montero was a superb defender, despite being a psychopath.
  2. Maccarone and Kalinic never tore anything up - Kalinic scored 12 goals last season, which is a respectable output for a solid mid-table striker, but certainly doesn't constitute "tearing it up". Likewise, Maccarone never went above 13 goals in a season. Toni and Di Natale were superb strikers who would have scored by the bucketload anywhere they went (and Toni was Bundesliga top scorer when he was at Bayern). At Verona Toni was playing in a team that was basically built exclusively to get the best out of him, allowing him to goal-hang and finish off opportunities. Also, I'm not so sure about players from the Premier League succeeding in Italy - Edin Dzeko was generally considered the biggest flop in Serie A last season, and others like Podolski, Pelle, Shaqiri, Coutinho etc. have had far more success in England than they ever did in Italy.
  3. Nonsense, Serie A is notoriously difficult league to score goals in, since defences are far more disciplined and well-drilled than in most other leagues. Mandzukic is a very good player, strong, good technique, works extremely hard, and great at creating space for his strike partner. He may not score much, but a striker like him shouldn't only be judged on his goals. I doubt Juve have any intention to sell though, he's a very important player for the team.
  4. Juve fans were mostly angry about the way he left (resigning on the first day of the new season after pledging to stay another year) and some of his comments regarding Juve's transfer strategy. Remember that Conte didn't only manage Juve, he also played there for a good 13 seasons and was club captain for a couple of years, so Juve fans were already very attached to him before he ever became Juve manager. The manner of his resignation felt like a betrayal in that respect.
  5. Some Juve fans hate Conte because he left the club high and dry by resigning on the first day of pre-season training after having committed to being the manager for another year. Most Juve fans don't hate him and are hugely appreciative of what he did at the club both as a player and as a manager. The 10 Euro restaurant was a stupid analogy that Conte made during a press conference to excuse his lack of success in the CL, He basically said "you can't eat at a 100 Euro restaurant if you only have 10 Euro in your pocket", the implication being that Juve can't compete in the CL without spending big on players. He was immediately disproven when Allegri took the same group of players to a CL final in his first season.
  6.    Samdwich reacted to a post in a topic: Alvaro Morata
  7.    GarnachoCheese reacted to a post in a topic: Alvaro Morata
  8. Well, yes, but there's absolutely no chance of Dybala going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
  9. Asamoah used to be a truly excellent player, but he simply hasn't been the same since his injuries. I don't think he has played two consecutive matches and he still looks like a player who is recovering from a serious injury, so I'd be surprised if this transfer takes place. For the record, he was a great all-rounder - good technique, great left foot, strong, quick, versatile. He's a central midfielder, but Conte used him as a left wing-back in his 3-5-2 (he played in midfield at Udinese and now under Allegri). I'd be sad to see him go, but I don't think he'll ever truly recover his previous form.
  10. Anybody who has watched Juve regularly will know that Morata is a good player on the verge of becoming a world-class striker. I'm convinced that he'll be one of the best strikers in the world over the next few years and he has absolutely everything a top striker needs - speed, strength, movement, agility, a good shot. The only thing that has kept him from playing and scoring more is his temperament. Don't let his goal tally deceive you, it says a lot that despite his lack of goals Juve will do whatever they reasonably can to sign him permanently. And it's well known that Conte is a huge fan (he was the one who wanted to sign him at Juve in the first place).
  11.    JT_<3 reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  12. 1. Italy are never any good on qualifying rounds and friendlies. Even when they had a team full of superstars, they would play pretty dull and unremarkable football in qualification, and then go on to win out seriously compete in the final tournament. Nobody cares about qualifiers in Italy, and fans are ALWAYS divided. They're divided about Lippi and he won them the bloody world cup.2. Italy have the worst team in living memory. Their attacking options are Pelle, Zaza, Immobile and Eder. Expecting champagne football from that front line is a bridge too far, even for a manager like Conte. 3. As someone mentioned, Italy qualified extremely comfortably, so Conte couldn't have done much more with Italy. People aren't really complaining about the on pitch performances, they're complaining about Conte's attitude and off pitch comments. 4. Which brings me to the final point - Conte is a truly great manager, but he's a massive prima donna. He's very similar to Mourinho in that way, but he doesn't have Mourinho's charm. He's nowhere near as despicable as Mourinho either though.
  13.    Brutos reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  14.    rtwelch reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  15.    mclovin83 reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  16.    Barry Bridges reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  17. It's not really a mixed bag to be fair, all those players are undoubtedly seen as good signings. Also, Barzagli signed the season before Conte. There are other players that joined during Conte's tenure (Vidal, Caceres, Ogbonna and Asamoah come to mind), but it's beside the point because managers in Italy aren't responsible for signing players. So Conte can't really take any credit or blame for those players. Pirlo, for example, signed a few weeks before Conte was confirmed as manager, and Conte famously had no idea who Vidal was (he was offered a choice between Vidal and Inler, and luckily chose Vidal).
  18.    jezza reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  19.    JoseBlues reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  20.    chillz88 reacted to a post in a topic: Antonio Conte - Now Officially Manager
  21. 'Most managers can win with Juve as the opposition is so weak' isn't a valid argument at all imo. When Conte took over at Juve there were six other teams that were better than Juve and a number of managers had tried (and failed) to win with Juve. The strength of the opposition is all relative, but Juve were in no way a team on the up when Conte signed. Juve have dominated over the past few years because Conte gave the whole club the kick up the ass it needed and (together with the club's directors) carried out some incredible work. There's no comparison to the PSG situation - PSG are a club bankrolled by an oligarchy that essentially bought a squad. In Conte's time at Juve every single player signing was under 20m Euro, which is a ridiculously low fee for such a successful club. Trust me, Conte is a better manager than both Hiddink and Pochettino. Time will tell whether he is successful at Chelsea, but I'm convinced that he has the ability to do brilliant work.
  22. Why is it hard to acknowledge the achievement of taking a 7th place team and winning the league unbeaten in your first season? It's one of the finest managerial achievements I have ever seen.
  23. Cuadrado is a good player, if put in the right context. Also, why does getting Conte mean offloading Emenalo? Conte wasn't responsible for transfers at Juve, so his acumen in the transfer market is completely untested.
  24. He's pretty much the opposite of soft. He's uber-intense, to the extent that one of the main criticisms of him at Juve was that he needed to bring down the intensity levels a notch.
  25. Conte absolutely loves Cuadrado. It's believed that one of the main reasons that led to his tensions with the Juve board was that they were unwilling to spend the money to buy Cuadrado from Fiorentina.
Background Picker
Customize Layout

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.