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  1. Right, here goes. First and foremost I must admit I am bitterly disappointed with the result. I was nervous before the game, seeing us like up with the likes of Mount & Abraham for United away is unchartered territory. I was worried we would concede early and get wiped out in a men against boys sort of way. I was pleasantly surprised though. We undoubtedly started the better team, and despite being guilty of creating our own problems with sloppy mistakes, we were playing the more fluid football, and edging every department. It was anything but men against boys. Impressive at Old Trafford, however poor they may be, they have just spent circa £150 in the transfer window. Then the penalty. Always been a fan of Zouma, but this was a disaster class performance. We seemed a little rattled after the goal, but fight our way back into the game and by the start of the second half we were once again the team dominating possession & territory. Let’s not pretend we were hammering the door down, but once again we were edging it against United at Old Trafford. That’s where I can take positives. Obviously the mistakes that gifted the United goals from this point are now well documented, and the naivety of how we played into their hands is something we have to work on fast. Kante and Ruidiger coming back into the side will make a lot of difference. In the end we must concede we were well beaten, but the score line undoubtedly flatters United. They avoided conceding by the finest of margins, twice, and we gifted them the all important opening penalty. There is the question mark over the foul on Abraham for the second which changed the dynamic of the game, but to be honest it was just one of those days were everything seemed to go their way. It happens sometimes, I am just gutted it happened on Franks debut. I think there are positives to take; Mount being one, but we need Kante, Ruidiger, Hudson-Odoi and James in the starting 11 as soon as possible. This was always going to be a hard season, and it might well get worse before it gets better, but I am still fully on board and I can genuinely see what Frank is trying to do, and I like it.
  2. Because Frank played it down to a room full of journos? Did you honestly expect him to come out and reveal all the details of what went on behind the scenes?
  3. Imagine being so sore about a debate on a public forum, that you wake up the next day and the first thing you do is log on and post this.... I'm so glad i'm not 'that guy'.....
  4. None of what was speculation? "It" ? That's pretty broad, you might want to quote what you are specifically rambling on about before you start patting yourself on the back about anyone changing their mind. If you try really hard I reckon you might be able to find a post of mine where I specially referred to some things being speculation, and some things not being speculation... imagine that?!
  5. Exactly. It reeks of a panic sale, i.e. £8M is better than getting nothing and keeping a potentially disruptive presence at the club. Why would we choose to sell to a direct rival? Why has he not been linked with any other club? It just doesn't stack up...
  6. You just don't what happened and you are assuming. The two could very well be in great terms but Luiz just decided he is not playing second fiddle like he did Conte's second season or like Cahill did last term. That would be why I said "I find it unlikely" as opposed to "this did/didn't happen".....
  7. Well it isn't, but ok. I personally find it very unlikely that the club would have chosen for this to play out as it did, with us seemingly panic selling a senior player to a direct rival for £8M on transfer deadline day. But yeah, we are all entitled to form our own opinion on what is most likely to have happened...
  8. What "proof" are you hoping anyone can provide? Do you think the club asked him to move to Arsenal, 4 days before the season starts, 3 months after awarding him a new contract? I appreciate there is a certain amount of speculation involved, but we should also be allowed to engage our brains and connect the most simple of dots here. The rest of your post is a bit weird to be honest, so not really sure what to say. Don't worry though mate, I can put your mind at rest on one point that you are fretting about; when a player considers signing for Chelsea in the future, I can assure you that Luiz (potentially) getting a few boo's whilst playing for a rival team in a derby, will be about number 1167996796 on their list of concerns. Chill. Oh and finally, where did I even say I wanted to boo Luiz? I invite you to provide evidence "beyond reasonable doubt" please.
  9. I think the issue I have is the timing. It just doesn't stack up for me. He has been a key figure in pre-season, and I just don't see that the club would have planned it to play out like this, with him leaving this late in the day, 4 days before we play our first game. It has played out as a bit of a drama, and certainly appears to have unsettled the camp as a whole. But you are right, we will never know the finer details of what happened. I have always been a fan of David Luiz myself, and I am sad it is ending as it is.
  10. Well, forcing a move through to a London rival the day before the transfer window closes, 4 days before our opening fixture, in a period where we are restricted with a transfer ban. To add additional context, this is a player who the club recently bent their stern rules to accommodate, by rewarding him with a new 2 year contract just 3 months ago, despite him being 32. None of the above is speculation. The speculation would be him calling in 'sick' for training and having a row with Frank because he was told he would have to fight for his place like everyone else. We won't know the details, but it's pretty damn obvious that we as a club didn't plan for it to play out like this. Something happened. You may think booing ex players is pathetic. That's your opinion. Gallas played a big part in our success and was boo'd by 40 odd thousand in Stamford Bridge back in 2006. It happens. Ultimately, respect is a two way street, and it worth noting that players who have conducted themselves well, such as Lamps, Cech and Mata returned to a hero's welcome.
  11. Well if you leave under circumstances such as this, and join a London rival, that is the risk you take. I am not a fan of pantomime style booing in general, but should fans wish to make their feelings known I certainly wouldn't consider them "moronic" for doing so.

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