venom2011

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, you've said here is even remotely nuanced, well-structured, informative, or factual. You've written multiple incoherent paragraphs which essentially just collapses into you shouting like an entitled fool. Take a breath, back the team, back the manager, try to enjoy some football, and perhaps even exercise a bit of patience.

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Truly shakespearean. You can't pontificate on things you don't believe you have great knowledge on. A big vocabulary is a marker and strong predictor for intelligence. Oh how wrong the blow-hard imbecile c*nt must be in thinking he triggers people...

Likewise the opposite. Although I don't need an explanation as I'm well aware of the state of purveyorship on this forum...

For once it's great to see some very balanced and nuanced takes on here.

Agreed. Easily one of the more reasoned voices out there. Though that doesn't necessarily translate to doing great things for us, but as I've said before - I've liked some things, disliked some things. Keen to see where we land.

I'll be with you in spirit #utc

The commercial team have quite literally chosen not to sign any of the deals they've had on the table. I can't answer exactly as to why, if I did it would be conjecture. But what it is not....is incompetence - which is what layfans are insinuating. There may (likely) be strategic or long-term economic reasons as why they would turn down those millions. Who are you - or even I - to call it sound or unsound. The debt being carried by a holding company was not a condition of the sale. All we've heard are rumours about debt limits. Roman's debt being cleared was a natural condition of the sale as it related to the sanctions. Us being owned by Ineos is not irrelevant as that was the other path that was on the table.

Not at all even remotely close to anything I've said - but that's not surprising. And debt financing is just debt financing. It's neither sound nor rubbish without context.

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Okay so let's break this down: "football club has gone from having no debt at all to having over £1.5 millions worth of debt" 1.5 million...seems a tad low so I'll go ahead and assume you meant 1.5 billion. The debt you speak of is with the holding company, not the club. The burden is shouldered by the ownership unlike at Man Utd. Yes, they would in all likelihood pay it off using generated profits in an ideal world. "The commercial side of the "business" has failed to get a FOS sponsor." No it hasn't, the commercial team have and have had concrete offers. They haven't agreed a deal. That is their choice - transparency on this would be great but it doesn't equal incompetence. "The "business" is under EUFA restrictions for failing to comply with financial conditions." *UEFA FSR regulations were breached and other than the fine, the repercussions were fairly insignificant. It would in all likelihood been part of the club's thinking and processes for quite some time. So say Ineos purchased Chelsea, took on zero debt for transfer activity and structural improvements - No Caicedo, No Estevao, No Quenda, No Palmer. Kepa still here. Azpi still here. Werner still here. They sign the first FOS deal that comes across Sir Jim's desk. Comply with UEFA FSR because they've only bought 6 mediocre talents incl Hojland and Zirkzee. You think you or the 'Roman Abramovich!' chanters would be happy? I guarantee not.

Okay. Clearlake inherited a champions league winning squad. Leicester City recently had PL winning squad. Crystal Palace had an FA cup winning squad. This in no way contextualises the reality of the squad and future expectations. Tuchel was the real magician. If you think Rudiger and Christensen left because of sanctions - to the two biggest clubs in the world - while their teammates stayed, then I can't help you. Clearlake inherited Marina and Cech. Marina, as much as I love her, also oversaw some of the worst transfer activity and squad building under Roman (post Emenalo) and most likely the illicit payments. Cech was an underqualified patsy. Luis Enrique and 'developing some of the world's greatest players' is a stretch. Yes he definitely coached some. Bayern appointed Kompany, Madrid appointed Xabi Alonso, and Barca recently appointed Xavi - also once appointed a young Guardiola with no senior managerial experience. 'Spent' does not only encompass transfer fees. If you're going to critique the work of people who are highly qualified in their field, best to not do it like an absolute layman.

Well said. Those are definitely problems that need to be addressed with urgency. The FOS should apparently be done soon...we can hope. In fact, broadly speaking we need one of the sporting directors to man-up and improve transparency on the sponsor, stadium, and ticket issues. It feeds the general negavity surrounding the ownership, for which the optics are already poor as the average fan sees no real connection to them. Whatever they've done, good or bad, feels emotionless. Like being ruled by a king who never walks the streets.

Yeah the only thing that annoyed me was the movement up top, especially in the first half. But that's nothing I expect Liam to fix immediately and the fact that he acknowledged it after the match was good.