venom2011

Have you considered maybe taking a break from football for a bit?
This absolute constant negativity must be draining. It's certainly draining to read.
I'm backing Liam until there's a need to feel otherwise. It seems insane to just have such a default opinion of hate towards every aspect of your football club.

Mate, we were playing against Arsenal tonight.
With Palmer, James, Caicedo, Gusto, Delap and more out, what on earth did you expect?
You need a reality check. Arsenal are unfortunately probably the best team in the league, facing a weakened Chelsea side, at full strength. And the game finished 3-2, thanks to Sanchez 2 mistakes that lead to goals.

Rosenior can f**k off. I'm not buying into all of this passion merchant "back the manager" sh*t. He's not even the manager, we don't have managers anymore. He's their puppet, and anybody stupid enough to back him doesn't even understand what it is they're backing. He's not here for Chelsea's best interest, he's here to do as he is told, same as Maresca until even he got sick of it.
Rosenior's talking and cheer leading on the pitch doesn't even come across authentic, it's try hard.
If you're backing this, you're not backing Chelsea, you're backing Clear Lake and their BlueCo project.

We aren't all lounging about on stained sofas like your goodself😂

Agreed. Easily one of the more reasoned voices out there. Though that doesn't necessarily translate to doing great things for us, but as I've said before - I've liked some things, disliked some things. Keen to see where we land.

Of course he supports Egbahli, he wants a job at the club. The last thing we need is the bloke who oversaw Crystal Palace into administration. Unsurprisingly it was triggered by a debt owed to a Hedge Fund
March 2025
"Simon Jordan hints at Chelsea role after holding talks with Todd Boehly
Todd Boehly has been at loggerheads with co-owner Behdad Eghbali behind the scenes at Chelsea, with Simon Jordan suggesting that he could help the 55-year-old American"
19/03/2025
Simon Jordan has labelled Chelsea a “plastic club” and claimed they “weren’t much of a club” prior to being bought by former owner Roman Abramovich.



He's a self obsessed narcissist , he said about Boehly selling tickets on Vivid..." It's his club, he can do what he wants" .
Jordan can f**k off

I get the feeling Mr Lavia is at the heart of Maresca’s sacking. With all the talk of re-injuries and the Medical chief sat on the bench to “remind “ him of the agreed minutes of players coming back it makes sense.
We might get a fit Lavia yet………

Agreed. Easily one of the more reasoned voices out there. Though that doesn't necessarily translate to doing great things for us, but as I've said before - I've liked some things, disliked some things. Keen to see where we land.

I actually like Simon Jordan and think he calls it as he sees it. As he said, he’s met a lot of football owners who all say they can do all manner of things. I think the fact that he backs Egbad holds some weight.

Well I take it no-one else will be attending then, just me 🤣

Okay so let's break this down:
"football club has gone from having no debt at all to having over £1.5 millions worth of debt"
1.5 million...seems a tad low so I'll go ahead and assume you meant 1.5 billion. The debt you speak of is with the holding company, not the club. The burden is shouldered by the ownership unlike at Man Utd. Yes, they would in all likelihood pay it off using generated profits in an ideal world.
"The commercial side of the "business" has failed to get a FOS sponsor."
No it hasn't, the commercial team have and have had concrete offers. They haven't agreed a deal. That is their choice - transparency on this would be great but it doesn't equal incompetence.
"The "business" is under EUFA restrictions for failing to comply with financial conditions."
*UEFA FSR regulations were breached and other than the fine, the repercussions were fairly insignificant. It would in all likelihood been part of the club's thinking and processes for quite some time.

So say Ineos purchased Chelsea, took on zero debt for transfer activity and structural improvements - No Caicedo, No Estevao, No Quenda, No Palmer. Kepa still here. Azpi still here. Werner still here. They sign the first FOS deal that comes across Sir Jim's desk. Comply with UEFA FSR because they've only bought 6 mediocre talents incl Hojland and Zirkzee. You think you or the 'Roman Abramovich!' chanters would be happy? I guarantee not.

I'm not really sure what the protest hopes to achieve. I'm not even sure what I would hope it achieves.
There's a confusion in the running of the club. We aren't seeing the energy I would like in getting us a new stadium. In improving our financial efforts off the field through a new FOS.
Whilst at the same time, the owners are fiddling with prices on tickets, making things worse for the average match going fan.
I'm actually broadly fine with the tactics on the pitch. The squad under Roman was aging, we weren't being smart with the talent that came in, it was scattergun and we felt like we were drifting.
Now at least I can see a strategy to bring in younger talent and see it's value grow. Rosenior is a better appointment than many of the names some people would "prefer".
My concern is that in every other aspect, they aren't running things effectively, so I worry that they are going to do many many stupid things in the long run even in those aspects I like.
But saying all of that. I don't see what the protest achieves because I don't know what the target is.

What do you think this achieves by showing trophy hauls of essentially two different clubs, existing in different climates and rulesets, and with about 15 years difference in tenure?
Stable success is the ability to challenge for highest honours consistently (and win) while working within the means of the club. This includes adhering to governing body regulations and financial controls.
Spending frivolous amounts of money on players without resale value, putting them on big contracts, having to paper over cracks consistenly, and doing under-the-table payments to get deals over the line is not that. Winning the league and then bombing out for 3 years with an experienced, expensive squad is not that. If Roman bought Chelsea today, a lot of what he'd do would be similar to Clearlake.

I agree, Chelsea FC should be run like a sound business and football club. And there is zero evidence that it's being used only to line Clearlake's pockets. Whatever you think of the ownership group, it comprises best-in-class businessmen. They are not morons, despite what anyone sitting on their stained sofa and chatting on a forum says. Only a moron spends 100m on Caicedo and Enzo if their clear goal is to line their own pockets. Look at how differently Clearlake and The Glazers operate.
Feliciano's quote was in the context of building record levels of revenue and he is very much correct. To get Chelsea to match Europe's elite, they need to build a sustainable business that can increase value, and this IS more important than day-to-day match results especially in the short-term. If the goal was just to win, it would firstly be a foolish goal; and secondly it would inevitably lead to unsustainable decision-making given the current climate.
What they have shown is that winning comes second to sustainability goals (for now) and that's fine. Chelsea are currently closer to being a club that sees stable success than at anytime under Roman. We're not there, mistakes have been made and were inevitable, but Roman always had the luxury of papering over cracks with expensive short-term solutions.
The fact that they ignored the bitching and moaning, never hired someone like Zidane to truly muddy the waters even though it would appease some - that actually impressed me.

Yeah the only thing that annoyed me was the movement up top, especially in the first half. But that's nothing I expect Liam to fix immediately and the fact that he acknowledged it after the match was good.

Any chance you can take this absolute bo**ocks to a thread that gives a sh*t about it out so we can discuss the new manager, for f**ks sake.

Only one game in but the only game I can compare it to is that Lincoln game where for a pretty much a whole half of football they looked like the better team. Yesterday we controlled the game from the start and showed intent to actually score goals.

I’ve got a good feeling about Resenoir that he’ll do some good work. Feel confident that he’ll turn our form around

I agree, Chelsea FC should be run like a sound business and football club. And there is zero evidence that it's being used only to line Clearlake's pockets. Whatever you think of the ownership group, it comprises best-in-class businessmen. They are not morons, despite what anyone sitting on their stained sofa and chatting on a forum says. Only a moron spends 100m on Caicedo and Enzo if their clear goal is to line their own pockets. Look at how differently Clearlake and The Glazers operate.
Feliciano's quote was in the context of building record levels of revenue and he is very much correct. To get Chelsea to match Europe's elite, they need to build a sustainable business that can increase value, and this IS more important than day-to-day match results especially in the short-term. If the goal was just to win, it would firstly be a foolish goal; and secondly it would inevitably lead to unsustainable decision-making given the current climate.
What they have shown is that winning comes second to sustainability goals (for now) and that's fine. Chelsea are currently closer to being a club that sees stable success than at anytime under Roman. We're not there, mistakes have been made and were inevitable, but Roman always had the luxury of papering over cracks with expensive short-term solutions.
The fact that they ignored the bitching and moaning, never hired someone like Zidane to truly muddy the waters even though it would appease some - that actually impressed me.

What's crazy is it wasn't like that when he started and he even had examples during his tenure to see what works e.g. PSG. Then he goes away to a mid-table team with a heavily rotated squad and uses a 3-1 buildup, asking Caicedo to cover half of the UK.

15 years difference...in tenure. If you're going to counterargue, at least get the original statement right.
Clearlake inherited an overpaid, poorly constructed squad who had lost two of its best defenders for free due to mismanagement. A squad riddled with injuries due to player burnout. They had two clear choices: continue papering over cracks a la Man Utd - needing to take more expensive gambles and employ coaches who can provide instant gratification. Live and die on the whims of a manager. Get a good one, win a cup or two. Get a bad one, fire him and repeat. Or start a process of burning the house down. They picked the right one even if it meant short-medium term pain.
More short-termism. And let's not forget how this club magically became debt free. This is 2026. It's a different league, and different climate, and as I've said - if Roman bought this club today, he'd pretty much do exactly what Clearlake has done and used our competitive advantage (academy+trading) to close the gap.
PSG are currently considered the best side in the world. Is there a big difference between PSG and Chelsea if both sides have all players fit? No. Are their models that different? They've regularly competed for the same targets. Average age is similar as well. Chelsea have for 4 years had more key players injured than just about anyone else. And of course they have Marquinhos and Dembele to provide nous. But give me Lavia, Cole, James, Levi, Cucu, Fofana, Caicedo fit and consistently available and we would be dominating teams regularly. And just imagine if they'd managed to pull off their intended targets - Olise, Raphinha, Huijsen, Doue, Barcola, Hakimi etc.
If you're struggling to see ANYTHING positive, I'd humbly suggest you're the problem.

What's crazy is it wasn't like that when he started and he even had examples during his tenure to see what works e.g. PSG. Then he goes away to a mid-table team with a heavily rotated squad and uses a 3-1 buildup, asking Caicedo to cover half of the UK.

I agree, Chelsea FC should be run like a sound business and football club. And there is zero evidence that it's being used only to line Clearlake's pockets. Whatever you think of the ownership group, it comprises best-in-class businessmen. They are not morons, despite what anyone sitting on their stained sofa and chatting on a forum says. Only a moron spends 100m on Caicedo and Enzo if their clear goal is to line their own pockets. Look at how differently Clearlake and The Glazers operate.
Feliciano's quote was in the context of building record levels of revenue and he is very much correct. To get Chelsea to match Europe's elite, they need to build a sustainable business that can increase value, and this IS more important than day-to-day match results especially in the short-term. If the goal was just to win, it would firstly be a foolish goal; and secondly it would inevitably lead to unsustainable decision-making given the current climate.
What they have shown is that winning comes second to sustainability goals (for now) and that's fine. Chelsea are currently closer to being a club that sees stable success than at anytime under Roman. We're not there, mistakes have been made and were inevitable, but Roman always had the luxury of papering over cracks with expensive short-term solutions.
The fact that they ignored the bitching and moaning, never hired someone like Zidane to truly muddy the waters even though it would appease some - that actually impressed me.