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Arsenal strength is the midfield and we have to make sure we don't get overrun when they are on it they can pass most midfields out. I think Willian will get the nod for this one and he will drop deep to help out the midfield and it sounds as if we will drop deep or as the pros call it a low block which will mean Terry and Cahill start a pairing I am not keen on.

A few of you match going fans will have come across cath on your travels she isn't impressed with Jose at the moment. CFC Cathy â€@CFCCath 10h Lots of anti Mourinho sentiments among regulars 2nite over selections/tactics thus far ...as well decision to play Essien.. Cathy â€@CFCCath 13h Woeful management decisions #idonttrustmourinho

That extratime was shocking it looked like they had two extra men at times.

Don't expect Jose to be happy after we have conceded six goals in two games he will fix it.

I'd say so that is a very low points tally. Juventus have struggled in the group but expect them to get the point they need. I would'nt mind seeing them get knocked out especially as Drogba is at Galatassary but you know how some teams you feel you don't match up well against I feel that is us with Juventus.

I wouldn't want to face Benitez team to much of a poisonous atmosphere and buildup not too mention the Napoli fans are not a nice bunch and it would be a horrible away trip for our fans. Would anyone really want weeks of the boring Benitez and Jose stuff. Mata gets asked about Benitez Terry gets asked, Benitez mentions Luiz etc etc. Not too mention Liverpool fans chirping in with their tuppence worth. I also want to avoid Juventus for different reasons that midfield is scary Vidal, Pogba and Pirlo and Tevez always scores against us.

Yep I did chuckle when Jose was implying it was Romelus choice to leave as if Jose would be bullied by a 20yr old kid this is a man who took on half the Real Madrid squad. It was an almighty cockup and it is a joke to hear him making pathetic excuses.

I like the fact Romelu has balls all the top strikers have that extra bit of fire attitude and personailty. You only need to see that video of him as a 15yr old to see he would like nothing better than leading the line at Chelsea. The downside is he maybe looks at the treatment of DeBruyne and maybe has doubts but in his mind he will think I can offer more to Chelsea than KDB. He is on loan at Everton of course he is talking up his loyalty to the them they pay his wages at the moment.

When you think that Ivanovic Terry and Cahill are maybe the 3 best headers of a ball in the league it is mental. I would have Cole in at lb hopefully the rest has done him good and move Dave rb. Then I would pair Luiz and Terry or Luiz and Ivanovic.

I am not questioning his man management more that it sounds like loser talk and he is giving reasons why he isn't doing better. Also considering we have conceded 6 in the last two games maybe not exactly the best time unless he is deflecting from that as we all know Jose doesn't like basketball scores.

Jose “It is one thing to improve a player who is 20 years old, which you can,” he added. “If you can tell me can you improve (Eden) Hazard? Yes, I can. “Can I improve a player who is 30 years old? How? Just as well we havent bought a 32year old and loaned the best 20 year old striker in world football eh. This isnt the Jose we all love he is sounding like a loser. For the record we have scored the same amount of goals as Arsenal who have Giroud and as backup Bendter. I'm sorry whilst I can understand every team in Europe is envious of the City squad I refuse to be envious of Arsenal and Liverpools squad, Liverpool only have two scorers in their team and Arsenal have Bendter as backup.

Do you think if he fails to get top 4 he will be backed?.Very doubtful I can see the likes of Rooney and vanPersie jumping ship if they end outside of the c/l He will get the full season but unless he does really well in Europe their fans will start to think he was appointed as the cheap option a yesman for the Glazers.

To add insult to injury for moyes a lot of the Everton fans are saying Martinez has made them better and less one dimensional.

Excellent player with a great mentality and even when he hasnt been in the team you have never heard any moaning or bitching. If we sell him he will be a great loss and whoever gets him will be very lucky.

The money we spent in the summer we could have bought Cavani or Falcao or bought a quality c/half and another midfielder so I have little sympathy if Jose doesnt have confidence in the squad as he has had a part to play in the lack of balance in the squad. Considering Jose is no patsy I assume those were his choices unlike RDM who had no say in the matter and don't get me started on the stupid decision to loan out Romelu.

Interesting point from Frank Sinclair on twitter he needs to do what he thinks is right not the media he seems to be lacking a bit of bottle. Frank Sinclair â€@FrankMSinclair 13h Interesting take from David Moyes saying he should of took Van Persie off after 70 mins, but did'nt because of what people would think? He is lucky he is not a foreigner as I watched the sunday supplement and they just brushed over what is going on there. People are too keen to make excuses for Moyes as most of the British media have w**ked over him for the past several years. United will be faithful to him but he will never win a league title there or even make top two and to go from winning the league by 11 points to being in a struggle to make top 4 is nothing but failure whichever way ypu look at it.

So if we can't blame Luiz and Cole people blame Mata for the defensive weakness. I have heard it all now whatever next blame Cech for our strikers not scoring as he has average distrubution. Bottom line is we have a rb at lb a c/h at rb and Terry and Cahill are very similar and either should be paired with Luiz when fit ( if he is actually injured bit like Sturridge) I would look at all those combos before looking at Oscar/Mata role in the team play.

Jose needs to sort it out as no excuses about refs is acceptable for conceding six goals against two of the poorest teams in the league.

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Could be worse lads we could have got Moyes like some of the posters wanted on here now that would have been a disaster.

Utter sh*te Stoke are dire we have shipped six goals against Stoke and Sunderland and erm Luiz wasn't even playing. Looking like avb, RDM and Benitez weren't the problem as Jose isn't fairing any better we spent 60 odd million this summer and we aren't any better. Last season RDM had only a faulty Torres this year Jose has Ba, and Eto and Willian and Schurrle. Benitez had the likes of Yossi and Moses to bring on sort it out Jose we expect better.

United won't sell us Rooney don't know why we are messing about it.

I just can't see how they can replace Ferguson with Moyes be great for us and City I just can't see it. There is a genuine respect between Ferguson and Jose and I would not be suprised if he looks at Jose as a younger version of himself. Scrap all that talk of Jose being disruptive just read what ferguson got up to at Aberdeen , it was only a few years back he was sueing one of the horsey owners at United before he got put in his place. It was only then he calmed down. The best we can hope for is a dark horse to get the United job.

If Jose goes to United that is some serious machevillan stuff. Take over the champions and undermine one of your rivals for the title next season knowing that 95% of the Chelsea fanbase wanted him here, gulp.

Back of the Times, talks have stalled, this is all surreal. https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/331889030969049088/photo/1