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Hi Guys,

If we all accept that Scolari simply was not up to the job of managing a premier league club of any sorts let alone ours, how did he get appointed in the first place. How can so much money be spent without checking out what/who you are buying. For all I know Gus might be a hopeless coach (hopefully not) who has been saved from disgrace by great backgound staff (I doubt it but hey who really knows).

In the case of scolari it beggars belief that a complete dossier was not produced on him beforehand. Surely the only way that would happen is if RA decided he wanted Scolari over everyones head from the outset, and decided not to have him checked out!

Otherwise can you imagine the questions you'd be asked if you'd gone to RA and told him this is the man for your club 'sir', this is the man to take Chelsea forward and he'll only cost you.......?

How on earth is our club being run, if a man who it appears was totally out of his depth can be appointed in the first place. I accept that we as fans can judge a manager and have our opinions, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, but we are not spending the money and have little opportunity to do any in depth research. We simply see a manager who has managed Brazil/Portugal etc and naturally think, ok he must be at least pretty damn good, but again we are not running the business which is 'Chelsea fc'.

Hopefully lessons have been learnt, we now have Gus (who hopefully at the very least ensures 4th place) till the end of the season, whilst this time, thorough research is done on all the candidates, for the full time job. Then and only then we will have a list of real quality candidates in descending order and start at the top trying to get them.

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Hi Guys,

If we all accept that Scolari simply was not up to the job of managing a premier league club of any sorts let alone ours, how did he get appointed in the first place. How can so much money be spent without checking out what/who you are buying. For all I know Gus might be a hopeless coach (hopefully not) who has been saved from disgrace by great backgound staff (I doubt it but hey who really knows).

In the case of scolari it beggars belief that a complete dossier was not produced on him beforehand. Surely the only way that would happen is if RA decided he wanted Scolari over everyones head from the outset, and decided not to have him checked out!

Otherwise can you imagine the questions you'd be asked if you'd gone to RA and told him this is the man for your club 'sir', this is the man to take Chelsea forward and he'll only cost you.......?

How on earth is our club being run, if a man who it appears was totally out of his depth can be appointed in the first place. I accept that we as fans can judge a manager and have our opinions, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, but we are not spending the money and have little opportunity to do any in depth research. We simply see a manager who has managed Brazil/Portugal etc and naturally think, ok he must be at least pretty damn good, but again we are not running the business which is 'Chelsea fc'.

Hopefully lessons have been learnt, we now have Gus (who hopefully at the very least ensures 4th place) till the end of the season, whilst this time, thorough research is done on all the candidates, for the full time job. Then and only then we will have a list of real quality candidates in descending order and start at the top trying to get them.

Good point man, pundits in Portugal were surprised at his signing by Chelsea. Hes always been considered as being overrated as a manager. Many brazilians will even go so far as saying that his world cup win was a fluke. Anyway can anyone name any Brazil national manager that has achieved any mesure of success at international club level.?

Peace

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Not that winning the world cup is ever easy, but, LFS had to beat Turkey twice, China, Costa Rica, England, Belgium, and Germany.

And he failed to beat Greece in Euro 2004, in Portugal, though he had tough road there.

We all knew he was no tactician though coming in. I just hoped that he would kick some butts and not care about egos.

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We all knew he was no tactician though coming in. I just hoped that he would kick some butts and not care about egos.

I had no idea that he was tactically clueless. I assumed he had a pretty good track record coaching-wise, given his success with Brazil and Portugal, and given how he was courted by England (and then I remembered that 'McLaren was who they really wanted all along', proving that the FA know less than the square root of F-all about football).

And I was glad to have someone in place who had both a big personality (after Grant, nice guy though he was) and who had some standing in the game to earn the respect of our players (relative to Grant, nice guy though he was).

I think that's why the club appointed him - because he was NOT AVRAM. He certainly did go down well for a few weeks until he was found so badly wanting both in the Prem and the CL.

And if we hadn't sacked him after the 0-0 with Hull, we probably would have as soon as his absurdly damaging interview with France Footballhad been seized upon by the tabloids.

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Apparently nobody even knew he simply had no idea how to hold a training session! Maybe just a litle oversight at the job interview stage?

Mind, guess he was intent on giving us back the 1970/1980's Chelsea.... Mmm but without the passion it seemed :)

So that why Cech was so dodgy recently...he was watching tapes of Borota in goal :P

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Its a good point, i thought we were going to get big tough Phil who would install fear into a squad of internationals and not let them live on their reputations.

I was aware his tactics were considered 1 dimentional having spoken to portuguese collegues but did'nt imagine it would be as bad as it was.

He simply refused to change anything other than like for like, never formation or tactics and he was found out very early.

Those tactics may have worked if we had more quality ala Robinho but you can only work with what you have.

To top it all off big scary Phil was more like poor old Phillis when it come to Ballacking players who was picked week in week out regardless of performance.

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Not that winning the world cup is ever easy, but, LFS had to beat Turkey twice, China, Costa Rica, England, Belgium, and Germany.

And he failed to beat Greece in Euro 2004, in Portugal, though he had tough road there.

We all knew he was no tactician though coming in. I just hoped that he would kick some butts and not care about egos.

His record as international coach is really good. Do you think beating England and especially Germany is easy somehow? He took Portugal to final in Euro's and to Bronze game in WC 2006. His track record in major tournaments is very good.

Scolari did lot of things wrong here at Chelsea but end of the day I think it all comes down to the language barrier. It must be very frustrating to talk, talk, talk when half of the words you have to think over. And he coudn't go to detail in many things explaining things to the players. There were talks he wanted to quit himself befrore he met the axe.

He did a great job in Brazil and in Portugal where he could talk his native language.

The biggest mistake from Scolaris half was that he thought he could work in English and Kenyon+Roman believed it. Why the h*ll do you think he took Deco and wanted Robinho and most of the games used Portugese talking players?

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He did a great job in Brazil and in Portugal where he could talk his native language.

The biggest mistake from Scolaris half was that he thought he could work in English and Kenyon+Roman believed it. Why the h*ll do you think he took Deco and wanted Robinho and most of the games used Portugese talking players?

He did a great job as an international manager.

The biggest mistake from eeryone's part is that they assumed he could translate success at international level to success at domestic level. That was just ridiculously rash and we paid an expensive price for it.

He has less club experience than Avram Grant, at least Grant had been involved in club football for an extended period.

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