Figuring this out..

[Bez]

Well even more reports came out today that insist three things.

- Perez has given up on Ribery, leaving only us and Man u if they sell Ronaldo for 85m to RM as options to move.

- We are front leaders to sign Aguero

- We are front leaders to sign Villa

So my thoughts are what do you think we do? as a club?

Ac Milan are saying no way Pato will be sold although if chelsea fork 42m on him he could be ours, but that's 4m higher that we are offering.

Zhirkov i can't see rejecting a deal to join Chelsea and for some reason i believe he's already signed because i just can't see Roman getting rejected by Moscow.

Sturridge is again another real possibility..

Pirlo seems to think he's in with a chance of joining Chelsea.. Pirlo did little to stem the tide of speculation over a Blues move and said: "Maybe. We will see."

Heres a report from the times on Ribery today:

Chelsea’s summer transfer plans suffered another blow yesterday when they were quoted a £65 million asking price by Bayern Munich for Franck Ribéry.

The France winger has emerged as the club’s primary transfer target after Kaká’s £56 million move to Real Madrid this week. Chelsea have not made an official bid for Ribéry, but informal discussions have led to Bayern quoting a world-record figure. The German club believe they are in a strong position because Real are also chasing Ribéry’s signature.

Sergio Agüero, the Atlético Madrid striker, and David Villa, the Valencia forward, are also on Chelsea’s radar in the event that they fail to lure Ribéry.

It seems that if we wanted we could really get whoever right now because everyone who has been linked to Chelsea have said they would be keen on joining except Villa who really wants to remain in Spain but has no choice because RM won't meet Valencia's asking price and we would.

As for Ribery.. he is really good friends with Drogba and i'm sure this week Malouda/Anelka would of been talking to him. So right now i think if we wanted we could sign any of them (ribery still hard though) but who do you think we would sign with all these options open right now?

Edited June 11, 2009 by J.C.B

[Tim]

If we signed Ribery, but not for the money quoted, and either Pato or Aguero, I would be ecstatic. I never like to see us spunking silly money on players, but would make an exception for these three. Villa would cost similar money to the othet 2 strikers, but is a good 7/8 years older, so for that reason i would prefer we focused on them.

[bjd]

We are front leaders to sign Villa

I dont think that is the case at all. He will be a Madrid player come July im sure of it.

The sums beiing quoted for the other three are mind boggling, Pato especially is stupid.

I do hope we get a 'marquee' signing for various reasons but i hope we are not shafted Sheva stylee and i can see it being only one, not two.

[sdsdsdsd]

Definitely do not need Villa, id say sign Sturridge and stick with Drogba, Anelka, Franco, Sturridge. Consider that Liverpool have one of the most injury prone strikers in the game and their second option is David Ngog. I think we'l be fine

[kalpitv]

Definitely do not need Villa, id say sign Sturridge and stick with Drogba, Anelka, Franco, Sturridge. Consider that Liverpool have one of the most injury prone strikers in the game and their second option is David Ngog. I think we'l be fine

I don't think our target should be to be on par with Liverpool! Look at Manchester United - Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Ronaldo and the likes of Welbeck on the bench. Even though they may lose two of those strikers before the start of this season, I'm sure they'll bring equally good if not better reinforcements.

Even Arsenal isn't too bad in the striking department with Van Persie, Adebayor, Eduardo, Bendtner, Vela. And they play Walcott, who I think has the best finishing touch of all, out of position.

[ducavis]

I don't think our target should be to be on par with Liverpool! Look at Manchester United - Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, Ronaldo and the likes of Welbeck on the bench. Even though they may lose two of those strikers before the start of this season, I'm sure they'll bring equally good if not better reinforcements.

Even Arsenal isn't too bad in the striking department with Van Persie, Adebayor, Eduardo, Bendtner, Vela. And they play Walcott, who I think has the best finishing touch of all, out of position.

Am with you on that one even though the Winker seems to be going for £80m. Perez has really f****d up the market big time but trust me they will go bust very very soon. No way is he going to make the money back & I hope Milan & Man utd take 50% up front. where is Platini for pete's sake.

I think our strike force needs reinforcements big time & I dont actually think we need a Marquee player as such. A clever second striker like even Rossi would do but in all honesty £30-£40m is too steep!.

[kalpitv]

Am with you on that one even though the Winker seems to be going for £80m. Perez has really f****d up the market big time but trust me they will go bust very very soon. No way is he going to make the money back & I hope Milan & Man utd take 50% up front. where is Platini for pete's sake.

I think our strike force needs reinforcements big time & I dont actually think we need a Marquee player as such. A clever second striker like even Rossi would do but in all honesty £30-£40m is too steep!.

Rossi sounds like a smart choice. I'm sure he wont cost more than 15-16 million and we will get what we need. But it seems the Chelsea Board has decided to go for marquee players this season and such players don't look like coming in.

[moi]

According to France 24, Real Madrid have just offered 94 million euros for Ronaldo.

[evissy]

I think we could sell some of these following players to finance a big move. Reasons for these are relating to formation, good enough cover in squad, good youngster pushing, good replacement in sight with the age trimming in mind: Joey Cole(-81), Kalou(-85), Bosingwa(-82) or A.Cole(-80), Drogba(-78), Deco(-77), Belletti(-76) or P.Ferreira(-79) and Carvalho(-78).

We have these very promising youngsters pushing for a spot in the squad: Stoch(winger), Mancenne(D, DM), Mikel(DM), Scott Sinclair(winger)

If we are to sell either Boss or A.Cole we need replacement like Zhirkov. With Ivanovic in the team we are set.

If we are to sell Drogba we need to go for Aguero, Pato, Villa, Tevez.

Joey Cole is brilliant at times but he is injury prone and not that young anymore. I think he is expendable although I don't want him to go.

Carvo, Belletti and Deco are all expendable as we have good enough cover. We could also make some good money out of them. Maybe 15 mill combined. The age structure will also come down.

Paulo hasn't played that much so we can live without him even if A.Cole or Boss leaves.

Kalou is young but never fitted our team or system. Very good player but more suitable for Arsen*l or Spuds.

I think we might have a chance to get one of these young superstars and really hope one of them materializes.

[kalpitv]

According to France 24, Real Madrid have just offered 94 million euros for Ronaldo.

Yes indeed they have. And Manchester United have officially accepted the bid.

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[moi]

Yes indeed they have. And Manchester United have officially accepted the bid.

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oops, sorry, Kalpitv - I'll go back to Fun and Games

[sdsdsdsd]

I think we could sell some of these following players to finance a big move. Reasons for these are relating to formation, good enough cover in squad, good youngster pushing, good replacement in sight with the age trimming in mind: Joey Cole(-81), Kalou(-85), Bosingwa(-82) or A.Cole(-80), Drogba(-78), Deco(-77), Belletti(-76) or P.Ferreira(-79) and Carvalho(-78).

We have these very promising youngsters pushing for a spot in the squad: Stoch(winger), Mancenne(D, DM), Mikel(DM), Scott Sinclair(winger)

If we are to sell either Boss or A.Cole we need replacement like Zhirkov. With Ivanovic in the team we are set.

If we are to sell Drogba we need to go for Aguero, Pato, Villa, Tevez.

Joey Cole is brilliant at times but he is injury prone and not that young anymore. I think he is expendable although I don't want him to go.

Carvo, Belletti and Deco are all expendable as we have good enough cover. We could also make some good money out of them. Maybe 15 mill combined. The age structure will also come down.

Paulo hasn't played that much so we can live without him even if A.Cole or Boss leaves.

Kalou is young but never fitted our team or system. Very good player but more suitable for Arsen*l or Spuds.

I think we might have a chance to get one of these young superstars and really hope one of them materializes.

Sorry i have to disagree with u on this one, Ashley is our second most important player behind Essien. A crucial part of our team. We HAVE TO do everything in our power to keep him imho. Unfortunately I do agree with the rest especially Joey :)

[jordanl5182]

I think we could sell some of these following players to finance a big move. Reasons for these are relating to formation, good enough cover in squad, good youngster pushing, good replacement in sight with the age trimming in mind: Joey Cole(-81), Kalou(-85), Bosingwa(-82) or A.Cole(-80), Drogba(-78), Deco(-77), Belletti(-76) or P.Ferreira(-79) and Carvalho(-78).

what do the numbers in brackets mean?

[Bez]

Real Madrid won't go bust because the spanish government will save their asses again.

[Ruh Buh Juh]

what do the numbers in brackets mean?

I'm thinking the same thing...

sdsdsdsdsd - You see Ashley as our 2nd most important player? Over Lamps and JT?

[jordanl5182]

I'm thinking the same thing...

sdsdsdsdsd - You see Ashley as our 2nd most important player? Over Lamps and JT?

To be fair, Ashley is probably our really, truly irreplacable player...there's probably a centre back or two who may be just as good as JT and while I hat to admit it, we could still be competetive without Lampard (as long as he was suitably replaced), but who could fill in for Ashley...is there a better left back in the world? Evra's the only person who comes anywhere near!

[NickCicc]

I think there are three untouchables in our squad, and they are JT, Lamps and Ash. We MUST keep these three until they retire at ANY cost. They are the sorts of players you build teams around (english, and world class!).

[Bridgeboy]

Aguero and Ribbery would be great, I think Villa is going to Real and I do not want him anyway. I do not want Zhirkoz anymore either, he can f*** off to Barcelona and sit on the bench there if he thinks he is so f****** good the tw6at !

[TheWestwayWonder]

I dont think that is the case at all. He will be a Madrid player come July im sure of it.

The sums beiing quoted for the other three are mind boggling, Pato especially is stupid.

I do hope we get a 'marquee' signing for various reasons but i hope we are not shafted Sheva stylee and i can see it being only one, not two.

my thoughts exactly

If Valencia want more than 35m for David Villa that is not doable from our perspective. I would love to see him here, but not at that much for a 28 year old. If we can get David Villa for anything around 25 or less then do it, but that will never happen

If its down to paying 40 for Pato or 35 for triggering the release clause for Aguero, I think the answer is obvious. Pato is an excellent player, but Aguero is every bit as special, and is a trequartista rather than an out and out forward.

I too hope its one big singing (Aguero) and several other good additions to make the squad as a whole more complete (Zhirkov, Sturridge/Dzeko, vdVaart, etc)

[ducavis]

I think we will get shafted as we might be signing Pirlo for £20-£25m on 120k! How this makes sense & where he

Might fit in puzzles me . I am already losing home that something big will happen this season as 'big teams' are making moves left right & centre while we are being linked with DUDS.

Please let this be wrong!!

[Tim]

Jordan, if Lamps is replaceable, where exactly would you find another midfielder who can score 20 goals a season, every season, and consistently provides his team mates with a huge number of assists, who also stays true to the team's tactics and putting in his fair share of defensive work?

If you can give me any names i will be surprised! It will be a huge huge loss the day he leaves us.

[evissy]

I'm thinking the same thing...

sdsdsdsdsd - You see Ashley as our 2nd most important player? Over Lamps and JT?

The numbers stand for the year they were born -80=1980. I just thought I will put them there to show their ages, didn't work out well

Ashley has been brilliant this season and I think he is one of the 'untouchables' but his position (as left back) isn't the hardest spot to replace IMO. Bossy was brilliant against Barca playing out of position and I think Ivanovic would do a good job there as well.

Don't get me wrong he is one of the best in the world in his position but I don't think we are as handicapped as we would be without Terry for example. IF we get a big offer from someone for Ashley, lets say 20-30mill, I think we should take it as we then could finance a big move. Aguero, Pato etc...

Same goes to Bosingwa. Brilliant but we have decent backup in Ivanovic IMO.

[PloKoon13]

what do the numbers in brackets mean?

I assume this means the year they were born.

And I'm having second thoughts about Pirlo. Having studied his game some more, I've noticed how he relies on Gattuso to do a lot of his tackling, and that he is actually a deep-lying playmaker as opposed to a full-on defensive midfielder. As much as I love the guy, I think he's too slow, and not strong enough to be worthy of a spot in the team. A luxury we sadly can't afford.

[Bridgeboy]

Look this is becoming f'ing pointless running around after these degos, none of them want to play in the EPL so what is the point in trying to sign them.

Kenyon is the biggest ti8t around and he makes CFC look so silly time and time again. I really do hope all this bidding for Kaka and Villa is not true and we have had some sort of restraint to let things settle and see who is available.

At the moment the CFC board look like a bunch of monkeys in a banna factory, running here and running there throwing money at every club and player there is. I wish we could have some f****** order and restraint like SAF does at mancy united, you do not hear all this bullsh*t with them, there were whispers and then all of a sudden it is a done deal 80mil thanks for the memories I'll call you a cab, a smack on the butt and off he goes.

Not at Kenyon town would we ever dream of having anything done well and straight forward. All this bullsh*t is going to go on all summer and already it is beginning to piss me off.

[jordanl5182]

Jordan, if Lamps is replaceable, where exactly would you find another midfielder who can score 20 goals a season, every season, and consistently provides his team mates with a huge number of assists, who also stays true to the team's tactics and putting in his fair share of defensive work?

If you can give me any names i will be surprised! It will be a huge huge loss the day he leaves us.

Not saying that Lampard can be directly replaced, but if our strikers score 5 more goals between them and we have a 10 goal a season midfielder, then...well you can see where I'm going. But I don't want to think about replacing Lamps for a good few seasons.

The numbers stand for the year they were born -80=1980. I just thought I will put them there to show their ages, didn't work out well

Ashley has been brilliant this season and I think he is one of the 'untouchables' but his position (as left back) isn't the hardest spot to replace IMO. Bossy was brilliant against Barca playing out of position and I think Ivanovic would do a good job there as well.

Don't get me wrong he is one of the best in the world in his position but I don't think we are as handicapped as we would be without Terry for example. IF we get a big offer from someone for Ashley, lets say 20-30mill, I think we should take it as we then could finance a big move. Aguero, Pato etc...

Same goes to Bosingwa. Brilliant but we have decent backup in Ivanovic IMO.

Disagree...Ivanovic is a quality backup but will he be comfortable playing right back every game as he's naturally a centre back.

Why would we get rid of the world's best left back to buy very good striker. If the Champions League has taught us anything, it is that our back line is almost perfect. We have two of the world's best full backs and two of the best centre backs, with an up and coming backup scheme too.

I'd rather do without Pato or Aguero and be confident in our defense, knowing that our left back won't be raped by Messi, Ribery or Ronaldo.

Its worked out that our team has worked from the bottom up. A solid? keeper, a world-class defense, a good midfield and a good striker force. We shouldn't be taking away from a world-class defense to supplement a good strike force...the whole point of building a team is that you keep going until all positions are at a world-class standard.

or at least that's what I think...