Posted August 20, 200816 yr Name the 3 players who you consider to be the 3 weakst links in the England team that played tonight. 1. James 2. Rooney 3. Heskey
August 21, 200816 yr Tonight alone?In no order, Beckham Lampard Defoe Rooney is by far englands biggest problem. he spends so much time running after the ball like a 10 year old hes never where he should be. he has the tactical discipline of a gerbil. for f**ks sake hes a forward, tracking back to left back position to pick the ball up does our attack and midfield no good at all. does my head in, and it must piss the midfielders of.
August 21, 200816 yr If Rooney doesn't come and get it, no one will pass in the final third. I agree he needs to stay up there but then we need someone who is going to pass it to him. Oh look, young master Cole is on the bench.
August 21, 200816 yr Anyone else STILL not get the Barry hype one bit? He is sooooooo incredibly average and will never be 'the answer' to our international problems. He is Villa level and nothing more. Last night he carried on where he left off in a England shirt, putting in another middle of the road, 6/10 performance. Awesome. At least we know Lamps, Rooney (maybe even Stevie Me) can perform in England shirt, they just haven't done so for some time. Barry however, in my opinion, never has and never will.
August 21, 200816 yr Anyone else STILL not get the Barry hype one bit?He is sooooooo incredibly average and will never be 'the answer' to our international problems. He is Villa level and nothing more. Last night he carried on where he left off in a England shirt, putting in another middle of the road, 6/10 performance. Awesome. At least we know Lamps, Rooney (maybe even Stevie Me) can perform in England shirt, they just haven't done so for some time. Barry however, in my opinion, never has and never will. totally agree. i thought barry was by far the worst midfielder on the pitch last night. his passing was abysmal and his tackling almost non-existent. but hes stevie g`s mate, so gets his go. even though the 2 games they played together they were utter garbage.
August 21, 200816 yr I'm just not quite sure what exactly he is supposed to bring to the party? He seems to be perceived as this superb defensive midfielder, who can give the mercurial Stevie G the freedom to bomb forward and score wonder goals, but when has Barry ever been that player???? He is neither positionally disciplined or tactically astute enough to play the Maka role, or any variation of it, in my opinion, and is simply a worse, less goal scoring version of Frank and Gerrard. So, what exactly, does he bring that apparently England needs?
August 21, 200816 yr I'm just not quite sure what exactly he is supposed to bring to the party?So, what exactly, does he bring that apparently England needs? I heard it was twiglets :D
August 21, 200816 yr Predictably enough the "Lampard is crap, it's all his fault" brigade have been out in force again. I even heard some pillock say he felt sorry for St*v*n G*rr*rd because he'd played out of position again but "I don't feel sorry for Lampard because he's always rubbish for Engerlund". Conveniently forgetting that Frank, being the consumate professional that he is, simply does what he's told. He doesn't make the same kind of runs he makes while playing for Chelsea because he's told not to. Simple as that. Oh and St*v*n G*rr*rd is a c**t. Just thought I'd say that to redress the balance.
August 21, 200816 yr I heard it was twiglets :D i hate twiglets, and i hate gareth barry. so gareth barry bringing twiglets to a party would really upset me.
August 21, 200816 yr Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney. Can't believe I forgot Beckham. His runarounds just put us in jeopardy. @Lofty - It can't be denied that Lamps is a pale pale shadow in an England shirt to the man we see in the sacred blue. He was one of the worst against the Czecs no question.
August 24, 200816 yr 1. gerrard. englands weakest link for 5 years vastly overated everybodys fault but his own why he is sh*te 2. beckham. always overated now well past it 3. barry. in place of joe cole capello really is clueless
August 24, 200816 yr Gareth Barry benefits from the fact that he isn't Frank Lampard. There seems to be a clamour for anyone to play in England's midfield as long as he isn't Frank Lampard. The people who boo him are fickle idiots.
August 25, 200816 yr Lampard - personally i think its the pace of international games that doesn't suit his style of play, we play premiership football at a fast pace and international football is almost slow and lacklustre most of the times Beckham - He's been past his best for a good few years now, move over and let playes like James Milner have a go Fabio Capello - stop experimenting and settle on a side, people moan that players can't play together at international level, 6 substitutions and players played out of position doesn't really help any side in all fairness... he's blown his last chance of getting it right before the competitive games kick in now
August 25, 200816 yr Lampard suited the pace of international football just fine 3 years ago. Don't think he has slowed down since. Just not had a manager to put his faith in him, that is what the guy needs. James Milner is nowhere near international class right now. Ashley Young and Gabi Agbonlahor are more ike it though Gabi's distribution is suspect. Capello was the man to come and pick the best forgetting egos and reputations...that all must have been lost in translation. As for Gerrard, well McLaren basically built the team around him, he had the strap when JT was injured and was allowed to do his thing with Barry anchoring behind him. It was hoped that this would allow him to 'express himself' and score goals. He scored two versus the might of Andora...and then did not score again until the Trinidad game I think...when Mclaren had been sacked. He also missed plenty of good chances versus Croatia and Russia that would have ensured qualification. Had Lamps done that he would have been vilified by the press. But the press were too busy with there hands down their trousers day-dreaming of 'Saint' Steven to notice.
August 26, 200816 yr Englands 3 Weakest Links.... 1, The FA 2, Corporate Wembley 3, Lack of a planB (or even a planA at the moment)
August 27, 200816 yr Getting the best out of Rooney is certainly Englands biggest conundrum…. The dire state of Englands striking options means that he must play up front as a centre forward, yet he always finds himself chasing the game, and inevitably losing his position, along with his patience. He’s now come to that stage in his career, where he is expected to step up to that next level, yet neither for club or country, he doesn’t look like doing it? His last two seasons have been largely disappointing, and Ferguson/Capello are yet to help him develop into playing his best football.
August 27, 200816 yr Getting the best out of Rooney is certainly Englands biggest conundrum…. The dire state of Englands striking options means that he must play up front as a centre forward, yet he always finds himself chasing the game, and inevitably losing his position, along with his patience. He’s now come to that stage in his career, where he is expected to step up to that next level, yet neither for club or country, he doesn’t look like doing it? His last two seasons have been largely disappointing, and Ferguson/Capello are yet to help him develop into playing his best football. i think fergies the one to blame for rooneys situation. hes played him left wing, behind a striker or floating, never at centre forward which is where he should be playing. this means he spends half the game running around like a 10 year old chasing the ball, sometimes as far as his own box. now we all appreciate a player who works hard, but doing this means hes rarely in the right place when the ball gets forward. someone needs to teach him tactical and positional discipline. some of the best forwards in history rarely left the penalty are or near it. thats where he does damage, thats where he should bloody be.
