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We need to know who these idiots are so they can be named and shamed. How can this football club get literally every thing they do wrong?

Do you have Bellinghams similar stats by any chance. Whilst I agree that we played into their hands I also think that from our attack, Bellingham, Kane, Rogers and to an extent Rice offered very little all game.

Its all about him isn't it. He's such a fking idiot.

There wasn’t a suitable ‘out ball’ player for England after Gordon was subbed. The initiative was handed to Argentina and they took it. Pickford made a couple of really good saves all and credit to him for that. Just my humble opinion.

You can't know that. One of the most common injuries with quick muscle growth is muscle tears. Why would he get a hamstring injury just because he played 2 games back to back? You think it's weird for a player at 18 years of age to play 2 games in a row?

Also if he had whacked Anderson in the back of the head like that while wearing a Chelsea shirt he would have seen red.

Pretty sure fans of other Premier League teams are saying the same about their Argentinian players. At least with his World Cup showing we might get a better price for him now. I can't see him coming back and playing for us next season.

It got nothing to do with bulk up. He was not ready for pl. He got hammy issue in training, he got hammy issue the moment he was given back to back games. All of these are normal stuff.

Tuchel's game management today was hard to fathom. I thought he had done pretty well with subs most of the tournament but today was a total disaster. Starting with bringing off Gordon who was our most effective attacker and replacing with Konsa. That gave Argentine the green light to bring on more attackers and siege the England penalty area with inevitable results. It was also pretty clear by then that Rice and James needed subs yet he waited until the 82nd minute and then brought on 2 more defenders, playing one (O'Reilly) out of position in midfield. Our defense looked increasingly confused and overrun leading to gaps and chances. It was all so predictable. Then to cap it all we end the game hoofing long balls hopefully up to Dan Burn as we tried to score late on. Pathetic. It was so bad from Tuchel I wouldn't be surprised if he was paid off.

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Because the sporting directors are sh*t and the owners are even sh*ttier. The young players they target are mostly sh*t.

World class, yet he always disappears for us and had us finishing 10th. If he was world class, why can't he get us into the top 4? I genuinely would love to hear the excuses as to why he always disappears for us and leaves massive holes in our midfield, why he always gives away cheap possession from being too slow or making poor passes. He scores one goal and it's like the rest of his performance gets ignored. Most importantly, why is nobody bidding high for this world class player? Also, that goal was not world class. Those shots have been Pickford's weakness for years.

He's 22. We only sign players 21 and under.

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That goal had an xG of 0.09. Had 4 shots today, only that 1 was on target.

Don't know if I can bring myself to watch the 3rd / 4th place playoff. I,d take 4th and get on the plane.

I thought he was excellent tonight. Was also interesting seeing him and Reece giving each other a bit of stick in the first half. England went ahead then their stomachs fell out of their arses. I can’t believe the club put out the image of Enzo celebrating his goal on the socials. What reaction were they expecting?

This is a complicated one. Once you lose control of the game and your player decided to defend, it is hard to revert it. So most manager try to help the team either bringing a tall dm (usually the best way, England on paper had 3 dm already but james n Rice were dead) basically mainoo or bring cb.

These people running the club social media accounts are tone deaf.

Liverpool's lot were cheering on Mac Allister before a ball was kicked.

Feel sorry for England. A lot of people mock them, but I've always admired the passion of the English fans. Tuchel's tactics after the England goal were cowardly. It was just an invitation for trouble and Argentina's inevitable comeback.

Just watched highlights. Still raw, but lots of questions to answer for me. They start with Tuchel for all what we saw after we scored. Feels like we threw this away especially from the position we were in. Didn’t have the midfield options we needed later on, and for all the criticism of Noni and Saka, surprised they didn’t see the pitch. First goal so much space for Enzo to shoot. We were so deep. Good strike - perhaps should have been saved and Pickford a little flat footed. Second goal Spence took a knock, but the space we afforded Messi after the ball came back off the post. We gave the initiative to Argentina.

Side angle looks like a bullet. From behind, it looks more central pulling away from Pickford. Good strike regardless.