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I am completely underwhelmed by Phil Scolari and the rest of the backroom staff. Something is very wrong at our football club and all arrows point to the mgr and his backroom staff.

Where is our organisation,tactics and discipline gone,you could see yesterday yet again that we did not have the shape and commitment that we have been used to over the last few years. It looks as though either the players do not want to play for the manager or do not understand what he wants from them.Either way it is a disaster unravelling before our eyes.

It was widely reported in the Summer that JT and Frank Lampard had to speak with the manager regarding the lack of intensive training that the team were doing. Then we have had the rumblings from players over the last few months about mgt favourites within the group (Deco?) Last weeek we hear from Phil that they had a clear the air meeting.The result of that was yesterdays

shambles,so clearly that meeting went well!! So well in fact that Joe Cole nearly ripped his shirt off as he was subbed yesterday

and did not shake the mgrs hand (hard to do I know when he ignores you)

It may be the mgr is finding his feet at the domestic level of football here in England and will have to be given time. I just get the sense that there are problems between everyone and this does not bode well for us at all. I also think that employing Wilkins was a massive blunder as what we have is a group of nice guys with no positive track record at this level and looking well out of their depth.

My view is that we will win nothing this season and it will all become a little embarrasing.It pains nme to say it but the feeling is there.

I used to joke with my mates that I all I ever wanted was an FA Cup final day at Wembley again after the horror of 1994. I did not expect 2 titles and a CL final in my lifetime,and I found it hard to cope with the pressure of having to win every game. I harked back to the mid table mediocrity of my youth. Maybe Phil and the staff are feeling the same.

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I am completely underwhelmed by Phil Scolari and the rest of the backroom staff. Something is very wrong at our football club and all arrows point to the mgr and his backroom staff.

Where is our organisation,tactics and discipline gone,you could see yesterday yet again that we did not have the shape and commitment that we have been used to over the last few years. It looks as though either the players do not want to play for the manager or do not understand what he wants from them.Either way it is a disaster unravelling before our eyes.

I used to joke with my mates that I all I ever wanted was an FA Cup final day at Wembley again after the horror of 1994. I did not expect 2 titles and a CL final in my lifetime,and I found it hard to cope with the pressure of having to win every game. I harked back to the mid table mediocrity of my youth. Maybe Phil and the staff are feeling the same.

Fair assessment of the season so far.

Too many Captains in the dressing room for me all with there own agenda .

I fully agree with your point in regards to training and systems . Jose revolutionised this for us which is part of his success but it would appear Big Phil is from the old school with jumpers for goal posts .

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I used to joke with my mates that I all I ever wanted was an FA Cup final day at Wembley again after the horror of 1994. I did not expect 2 titles and a CL final in my lifetime,and I found it hard to cope with the pressure of having to win every game. I harked back to the mid table mediocrity of my youth. Maybe Phil and the staff are feeling the same.

That's so true and it's had an effect on the atmosphere at most home games.

I can understand Cole's anger, he is a top quality player and out of all our midfield and forwards (perhaps except Essien and Lamps) Joe shows the most hunger and determination to win games. I love the fella and feel that if he keeps on being substituted he may get pissed off and want a move - he, Cech, Lamps and JT are instrumental to any previous or future success.

Like someone else pointed out, a major problem is too many captains and big egos in the dressing room, we lack a father figure like Maka or Zola, and we desperatly need someone who will put the ball in the net at least every fortnight.

A big change is needed during the summer, get rid of some overpaid, old has-beens and players whose high potential turned into stale wood - Kalou, Sinclair, Alex and bring in some players, that we as fans, would like to see at the club.

Man I wish we still had Zola, Eidur, Jimmy, Wisey, Poyet etc etc :D

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Once again I am gob smacked by the negativity on this site, whether is is Scolari, Kenyon, Butch, the players, or the atmosphere and fans.

I am not disagreeing that the form is not great and the club seems to not be on the ascendancy it was, but jesus we had it a lot worse.

The players and managment need to pull their socks up and they will, all teams have a bad spell in a season.

On the business side. Kenyon wil be judge on the plan to be self sustaining by 2010 .. I applaud this plan and hope he can achieve it, but it is clear with the losses made todate that we are a long way off... I beleive this is the only reason for the current cost saving and consolidation of back room staff.

Yes I agree it is not great at the moment, but come on we have a platform for the future still excllent ground and facilities and a good youth system that will take time to come to the fore and no debt apart from waht we owe Roman, which despite the economic conditions is still peanuts to him.

2009 is positive year for Chelsea

KTBFFH

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I think this plan Kenyon / Chelsea had for us to be self sustaining by 2010 was extreme wishful thinking to say the least - especially now with the state of things globaly. I'm not sure of the finer details but did it mean we first had to pay Abramovic back all he ploughed in? I guess not, 'cos that ain't ever gonna happen, but even to balance things salary wise and transer fee wise, it is not easy to see how we could possibly achieve this and if we do happen to finish outside the CL qualifying places (a fair possibility on current form). with the lack of CL revenue I should think it is nye on impossible.

The sale of Bridge could well be a sign of things to come?

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I don't think it meant we had to pay Roman back - it just meant we had to be generate sufficient revenue to balance the books without relying on hand outs from Roman going forward.

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Here is my problem with 2010 and the current situation we are in: It is all very well and good to say "Okay, going forward we are going to severely tighten our belts and try and make this club sustainable by the target date". However, when we are in such an obvious blight as we are right now, and when we are missing pieces in this squad in order to make it a side which is truly capable of winning trophies, there has to be some kind of investment right now. I.e. if Robinho was really about to be bought for 31 million, Scolari should have at least half of that amount to spruce up his squad in the coming weeks.

Saying "no new players" just for the sake of breaking even is dumb, imo. What does having a balance of zero by the calendar year 2010 really do for us besides make Roman and the people in charge feel good? On the other hand, if we outlay 15 million for new players now, who is to say in May we wont be looking at a 50 million bonus from winning the CL in Rome. In short, you have to spend to remain competitive and start earning the real money. And after a few years of success on the pitch at a massive financial loss, that message seems to have been drowned out.

If the club decide to go for a more conventional model, i.e. buying experienced but cheap talent and promoting youngsters to fill the gaps in the team, I would be very happy with that. I think we are seeing the Chelsea we will see alot more for the next decade. One of the best sides in the country every year, but perhaps not the best bar none. I think those days of the steamroller we saw from 2004-06 are long gone, and wont be coming back.

We won those titles by building unstoppable teams. Now, I think the club is content to just be good, and behave like a "normal" club. Build a contender in the offseason and hope the luck holds until May.

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From what I can see the season has come off the rails since Steve Clarke left. I've asked before and I'll ask again, what the hell does Ray Wilkins bring to the table? Clarkey steered us through last season (not Grant and anyone who says otherwise is a tit not worth sucking). Clarkey pressed the right buttons, gave the appropriate support to the man in charge and for me it's no coincidence that things have slipped since he went. Wilkins does not have the personality or know how to press those same buttons or offer the same support to the man in charge.

Obviously we're not going to get Clarkey back so give the role to Bluebeard and Lofty - they'll kick ass!!

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From what I can see the season has come off the rails since Steve Clarke left. I've asked before and I'll ask again, what the hell does Ray Wilkins bring to the table? Clarkey steered us through last season (not Grant and anyone who says otherwise is a tit not worth sucking). Clarkey pressed the right buttons, gave the appropriate support to the man in charge and for me it's no coincidence that things have slipped since he went. Wilkins does not have the personality or know how to press those same buttons or offer the same support to the man in charge.

Obviously we're not going to get Clarkey back so give the role to Bluebeard and Lofty - they'll kick ass!!

You've hurt my bloody feelings now, and I welcomed you back aswell.

we've already been saying how we miss Clarkey, I doubt anyone thinks otherwise...lucky he was about when that bloke that won the titles was here as well ;)

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Once again I am gob smacked by the negativity on this site, whether is is Scolari, Kenyon, Butch, the players, or the atmosphere and fans.

I am not disagreeing that the form is not great and the club seems to not be on the ascendancy it was, but jesus we had it a lot worse.

The players and managment need to pull their socks up and they will, all teams have a bad spell in a season.

On the business side. Kenyon wil be judge on the plan to be self sustaining by 2010 .. I applaud this plan and hope he can achieve it, but it is clear with the losses made todate that we are a long way off... I beleive this is the only reason for the current cost saving and consolidation of back room staff.

Yes I agree it is not great at the moment, but come on we have a platform for the future still excllent ground and facilities and a good youth system that will take time to come to the fore and no debt apart from waht we owe Roman, which despite the economic conditions is still peanuts to him.

2009 is positive year for Chelsea

Well said, these are the good times. enjoy!

KTBFFH

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