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Different Formation , Plan B May Be ?


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We have seen a large number of teams playing 4-2-3-1 these days . The point here is at times our formation becomes predictable and we genuinely struggled against well organised teams last season . ( Bir city , Fulham etc ) .

We certainly need a plan B and suggest some different formations for us to discuss .

My 4-2-3-1

------Ivanovic----- Alex ---- Terry --- Acole

------Mikel/Ramires ----- Essien -------------

-------------------Lampard ----------------

Anelka ------------------------ Malouda

-------------------Drogba --------------------

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maybe a flat 4-4-2...im sure bosingwa could play right midfield ..

--------------------------------cech--------------------------------

-----ivan---------------alex----------jt---------------ashley----

----Bosingwa--------Ess---------Lamps----------Zhirkov/Malouda

----------------------Anelka-------Drogba----------------------

Problem with a 4-2-3-1 is that we dont have a creative attacking midfielder (like Sneijder, Kaka, etc) in my opinion.

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My 4-2-3-1

------Ivanovic----- Alex ---- Terry --- Acole

------Mikel/Ramires ----- Essien -------------

-------------------Lampard ----------------

Anelka ------------------------ Malouda

-------------------Drogba --------------------

That is how the team plays more or less anyway, Lampard is more advanced of the 3 midfielders and to the left. That is plan A!

Our plan B imo will be a diamon with Benayoun in the 'hole'.

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That is how the team plays more or less anyway, Lampard is more advanced of the 3 midfielders and to the left. That is plan A!

Our plan B imo will be a diamon with Benayoun in the 'hole'.

Pretty much this. Ancelotti seems fairly happy with the diamond, and it's featured a fair bit in preseason, so I'd imagine that is intended as our Plan B.

Something like:

---------------Mikel

-----Essien-----------Lampard

------------Benayoun

Or Matic / Malouda / Ramires etc...

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Agreed. I would want Essien to play a more attacking role this season . His energy in the middle is vital to our success . We will also have to fit in Ramires . From what we hear , he seems a perfect box to box player .

Do we have to play a creative MF to win the CL ? I don't know why Carlo was caught tactically unawares last season against Inter . It worries me .. We were a better team but we did not beat Inter .

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Apart from the core players (Cech, Ivan, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Drogba) the rest can be all interchangeable, and if Ramires does come I can see Mikel warming the bench, although im not too happy about it..

How are you judging the 'core players'? Based on how highly regarded they/their skills are or by how easily we can make do without them?

My main point is that I would include Essien in the core players.

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Apart from the core players (Cech, Ivan, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Drogba) the rest can be all interchangeable, and if Ramires does come I can see Mikel warming the bench, although im not too happy about it..

There is no way you can leave Essien out of the so called core players.

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I'm pretty sure this is how Hiddink lined us up also.

The only area of this line up that I don't like is Anelka stuck out wide. He'll usually drift in to the middle more, and he's not a natural winger anyway. I'd much rather see Kalou out there, or even sturridge (although that's not his natural position either)

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Ah yeah, my bad, knew I was missing somebody out! Add Essien to that!

I'm judging the core players in that their the names I would expect to be first down on the team sheet, and players that for their position they are the best at the club and each hold plenty of experience. Their the spine of our team.

For example, I wouldn't class Anelka or Mikel as a core player, as their positions are under threat from other players in the squad.

I think that a team without Lampard, Terry and Drogba (when available) would cause a lot more furore than a team without Mikel, Carvalho and Anelka.

I don't think I'm explaining this very well. :unsure:

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Plan A -

------Ivanovic----- Alex ---- Terry --- Acole

------Mikel/Ramires ----- Essien -------------

-------------------Lampard ----------------

Yossi ------------------------ Malouda

-------------------Drogba --------------------

Plan B

------Ivanovic----- Alex ---- Terry --- Acole

------Lampard ----- Essien --------Zhirkov-----

--Sturidge --------------------------------Kakuta------

-------------------Drogba --------------------

- I like this lineup cause its more quick. Pushed Essein into the sole holding position. Zhirkov to play in the midfield along side Lampard with Kakuta on the left and Sturidge playing on the right drifting in to play support striker behind Drogba.

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Good formation, but would interchange Lamps and Essien in your plan B. I don't Lamps being very effective on the right, as he is in the center or the left.

Regardless of where you play in the midfield of a 4-3-3, you're still in the centre. In a diamond, one of the midfielders might have a tendency to drift wide, but that is something entirely different.

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sdsdsdsd,

Not really sure why both of your plans exclude Anelka and Kalou and especially not sure why Malouda isn't apart of plan B. Plan B should be give the ball to him as often as possible as he has been by far our most creative outlet going forward in the last 6 months. I honestly think we'd have had no trouble scoring again if he'd have stayed on in that second half.

Perhaps as a tweak we might make is exchanging Malouda in and pushing Zhirkov wide. Kakuta is incredibly talented, but I'm not sure we should be relying on him when sh*t hits the fan.

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Zhirkov should be used as a good attacking option against teams that defend well . His pace , dribbling and movement will be very handy against those teams .

He should not be used only as a substitute is my point . He should be in the first team as much as possible . Carlo must do a fergie here by fielding teams to effectively counter the opposition . Not the same team week in , week out ... !

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sdsdsdsd,

Not really sure why both of your plans exclude Anelka and Kalou and especially not sure why Malouda isn't apart of plan B. Plan B should be give the ball to him as often as possible as he has been by far our most creative outlet going forward in the last 6 months. I honestly think we'd have had no trouble scoring again if he'd have stayed on in that second half.

Perhaps as a tweak we might make is exchanging Malouda in and pushing Zhirkov wide. Kakuta is incredibly talented, but I'm not sure we should be relying on him when sh*t hits the fan.

Yeh agree, the plans were just a bit of fun...in an actual situation we'd have to assess the players who are playing well and make subs based on that. eg. if malouda was having a good game, theres no way id sub him off. In the same way if Bossy was poor, then switch ivan to rb and add a centre back etc. Its impossible to make plans without evaluating the situation.

Malouda wasn't a part of plan B because Zhirkov and Kakuta are the 2 players i want to see most this season, couldn't make a lineup that featured all 3 unless Zhirkov played at lb which I don't like.

I honestly don't know wat Anelka's role will be this year, I honestly think our team looks more potent with kalou/yossi on the right. Id see him more of a Drogba backup rather than playing along side him. Then again id like to be proven wrong. Kalou the same, however I do like him as an impact player of the bench, however with what ive seen in the preseason, Id like to develop Sturidge more because I think he has more upside

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Plan A

---------------------Cech

Ivanovic---Alex----------JT---Ashley

--------------------Essien

--------Lampard---------Malouda

Sturridge-----------------------Anelka

--------------------Drogba

Subs: Hilario, Bruma, Mikel, Zhirkov, Benayoun, Kakuta, Kalou

That's with our current crop of players, and that's a formation I like. Malouda did play a lot more centrally towards the end of last season and he was fruitful for it, with so many goals and assists, I'd love to see him play there if we don't get someone like Ramires to play in the holding role - if he does come in, it's all change.

Plan A (with Ramires)

-------------------Ramires

-----------Essien----------Lampard

Anelka-----------------------------Malouda

--------------------Drogba

Sturridge replaces Kakuta (sadly) on the bench. Would be happpy with that formation too, actually. Either/or.

Plan B (if things aren't going to plan AND we have Ramires)

---------------------Cech

Ivanovic----Alex--------JT----Ashley

-------------------Essien

--------Lampard---------Malouda

-----------------Benayoun

--Anelka/Studge--------Drogba

Benayoun will play in the hole, interlink between the front two, Malouda and Lamps, Ashley and Ivan can do their bombing down the left and right respectively and go all out.

May I suggest a Plan C?

--------------------Cech

Ivanovic----Alex-------JT----Ashley

Benayoun--Essien--Lampard--Malouda

---------Anelka---------Drogba

There's nothing wrong with a back-to-basics 4-4-2. We can do our normal full back/winger schtick, with the added bonus of having two strikers to pester the opposition centre backs.

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For teams that park the bus:

----------------Cech---------------

---------------Ivan-------------------

------------Ramires---------------

-------Essien------Lamps--------

---Yossi----------------Malouda

Kalou---------------------Zhirkov

-------Anelka-----Drogba------

:JC_doubleup:

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For teams that park the bus:

----------------Cech---------------

---------------Ivan-------------------

------------Ramires---------------

-------Essien------Lamps--------

---Yossi----------------Malouda

Kalou---------------------Zhirkov

-------Anelka-----Drogba------

:JC_doubleup:

Too defensive for my liking, drop Ivan for Studge.

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