7 minutes ago, terraloon said:

  4 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/23/chelsea-shirt-sponsor-infinite-athlete-premier-league-40m/

So you mean we could have got another one year deal in, which is the point that's being made. You said deals take years (they don't) so that's why we couldn't get a short term deal or charity on the front.

14 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I'm a senior quantity surveyor that works on multiple government frameworks for a billion pound construction company, so yes. I've negotiated many deals involving relevant construction law, LAD's, payment provisions etc.

Did the non league team have billions of pounds worth of investment and 1000's of people employed by them? I imagine having the best of the best would speed the process up, especially when it is their full time job.

Newcastle's took over a year yet they still had it setup ready for when Fun88 ran out. Its called planning ahead, Clearlake took over in 2022.

More importantly, you have a Luxury Leather Recliner© that any non-league team would kill for.

5 minutes ago, dermott said:

More importantly, you have a Luxury Leather Recliner© that any non-league team would kill for.

The LLC has been relocated. I'm now stuck with a fabric chair, however it does have better lumbar and neck support. Not sure if the trade off was worth it. I'm going to amoritise the chair cost over the next quarter then try to sell it off to one of the apprentices.

9 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

The LLC has been relocated. I'm now stuck with a fabric chair, however it does have better lumbar and neck support. Not sure if the trade off was worth it. I'm going to amoritise the chair cost over the next quarter then try to sell it off to one of the apprentices.

On the threepence a week you pay them?

For someone who complains nonstop about all of the “accounting and spreadsheet” talk on here, you sure cant stop talking about it. Yet you moan louder than anyone when others do it lmao!

50 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/23/chelsea-shirt-sponsor-infinite-athlete-premier-league-40m/

Infinite Athlete, launched only at the start of the month, are understood to have provided the Premier League with details of their funding and revenues in a bid to satisfy fair market value rules and get the go-ahead to display the company’s logo on Chelsea’s shirts.

Other than simply ruling on the value of the deal, the Premier League have requested information over the funding behind Infinite Athlete, which is a private company, and investment links that may involve Chelsea’s co-controlling owners Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali.

Tempus Ex Machina, with whom Chelsea signed a seven-year product partnership in April, acquired Biocore to form Infinite Athlete, whose partners include Silver Lake.

Silver Lake own more than 18 per cent of the City Football Group and are investors in Fanatics, along with Eldridge, which is the company owned by Boehly. Clearlake Capital, who are co-owned by Eghbali, led a $700 million financing round for Fanatics last year.

We managed to get a brand new company to start up and get agreed by the league within a month, but it should take an entire season, summer break and the start of this season to get a sponsor lined up? Surely you lot don't even believe some of the things you say to jump to their defence?

6 minutes ago, dermott said:

On the threepence a week you pay them?

Christ man, i don't pay them that much!

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Christ man, i don't pay them that much!

One day in @Ukraine Bolt's £50m mansion he addressed the problem of a non-functioning fireplace:

12 minutes ago, dermott said:

One day in @Ukraine Bolt's £50m mansion he addressed the problem of a non-functioning fireplace:

Looks like a wooden chair in the corner, could never be my house

The ownership, for as good as they've been recently, have kind of f**ked themselves over when it comes to getting rid of players. Our most valuable assets are still stinking out the place at the moment. Nkunku is seemingly becoming impossible to shift, even on par with Sterling at this point. Jackson may be easier to shift, but nobody is coughing up the money we want for him. We are fortunate that the Saudis took Felix off our hands, otherwise he'd be stuck here too. I think this transfer window has been a bit below par and we should be aiming higher if we are serious about competing for the title. Do they want to compete for the title or are they just interested in coasting by challenging for top 4/5? I'm bemused by it all.

3 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

So you mean we could have got another one year deal in, which is the point that's being made. You said deals take years (they don't) so that's why we couldn't get a short term deal or charity on the front.

Did I say deals take years ? Thought I said there was quite a process , which there is.

3 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/08/23/chelsea-shirt-sponsor-infinite-athlete-premier-league-40m/

Infinite Athlete, launched only at the start of the month, are understood to have provided the Premier League with details of their funding and revenues in a bid to satisfy fair market value rules and get the go-ahead to display the company’s logo on Chelsea’s shirts.

Other than simply ruling on the value of the deal, the Premier League have requested information over the funding behind Infinite Athlete, which is a private company, and investment links that may involve Chelsea’s co-controlling owners Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali.

Tempus Ex Machina, with whom Chelsea signed a seven-year product partnership in April, acquired Biocore to form Infinite Athlete, whose partners include Silver Lake.

Silver Lake own more than 18 per cent of the City Football Group and are investors in Fanatics, along with Eldridge, which is the company owned by Boehly. Clearlake Capital, who are co-owned by Eghbali, led a $700 million financing round for Fanatics last year.

We managed to get a brand new company to start up and get agreed by the league within a month, but it should take an entire season, summer break and the start of this season to get a sponsor lined up? Surely you lot don't even believe some of the things you say to jump to their defence?

You are guessing at time lines.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Looks like a wooden chair in the corner, could never be my house

Looks like it has a roof on, could never be your house.

1 hour ago, Sunspear_88 said:

The ownership, for as good as they've been recently, have kind of f**ked themselves over when it comes to getting rid of players. Our most valuable assets are still stinking out the place at the moment. Nkunku is seemingly becoming impossible to shift, even on par with Sterling at this point. Jackson may be easier to shift, but nobody is coughing up the money we want for him. We are fortunate that the Saudis took Felix off our hands, otherwise he'd be stuck here too. I think this transfer window has been a bit below par and we should be aiming higher if we are serious about competing for the title. Do they want to compete for the title or are they just interested in coasting by challenging for top 4/5? I'm bemused by it all.

Publishing or making public a ‘bomb squad’ has to be the most dipsh*t idea ever, puts you on the back foot in any negotiation straight away.

The owners have been fantastic at identifying up & coming talents (Palmer, Estevao, Essugo) but have been terrible at buying ‘established’ stars (Koulibaly, Sterling, Nkunku)

You can’t just say these things take time, they take time for everyone and they all manage it, and they have had time.

The front of shirt sponsor, could be taking a long time due to the amount it will be, and proving full market value.

We are in a completely unique situation, where for the next 4 years, we are FIFAs worldwide golden club. Our image

will be pushed all over the world by FIFA. No previous winners including ourselves, ever had that scenario. That could potentially

mean a sponsership in the order of magnitude, far larger than has ever been seen before. The premier league will not like this, and

will likely be fighting all the way. But the potential is there for mammoth amounts approaching the world cup "partnership" payments.

I would not be surprised if FIFA themselves are onboard with this. As if we got a mammoth deal, every club in the world would be

desperate to win the trophy, ensuring the tournament becomes a MUST.

I could be wrong it could just be incompetence, but do you really think Vulture capitalists, haven't seen the possibility.

Announcing bomb squads and B teams are never good ideas IMO.

7 hours ago, terraloon said:

As we know a short term deal was agreed last seasons when it be a clear that there wasn’t going to be an agreement which ticked both boxes that appear to be pre requisite namely long term and high value.

There is quite a process involved in putting anything on the front of strip. You have to comply with FA rules and PL and of course UEFA rules who take an eternity to sanction anything. From company values to the sizing of any letters and as we know from the Paramount deal the governing bodies don’t look favourably on a company being a FOS sponsor who is a direct competitor of one of their associate companies.

There isn’t a lot out there about a potential front of a shirt sponsor but there is absolutely no doubt that work is going on . As you possibly remember I thought that there would be an announcement by now I still think that there will be one sooner rather than later.

It might be "a quite a process" involved in putting anything on the front of strip. But every other club gets it done every season. Just as we used to get it done every season .

17 hours ago, Clown Lake said:

You’re so eccentric, I love it.

Put this gif up just for you to comment you know what about our fans 😉

😂👍Here we go then... Clownlake posts an image of how he thinks Chelsea fans celebrate a goal in the stadium after visiting the club shop !!

1 hour ago, terraloon said:

Did I say deals take years ? Thought I said there was quite a process , which there is.

4 hours ago, terraloon said:

Newcastles deal with Selsa took over a year due to its links with Saudi ownership.

Here is you saying it can take over a year. i followed it up by saying we can and have done something short term with relative ease in the past.

8 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

This is the thing for me. There are so many options we could do in the short term. Get a 6 month deal for cut price while we negotiate. Stick a charity on there for PR. Literally anything, but it doesn’t seem important while we get fined for overspending.

This is my post saying we could and should have done something short term over the past year of wasted revenue.

I can't see a single logical reason this can't have been done in the short term last season in the league, or by the way things are going this season too.

Why have these discussions not been happening for the past 15 months when our IA deal ran out?

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

😂👍Here we go then... Clownlake posts an image of how he thinks Chelsea fans celebrate a goal in the stadium after visiting the club shop !!

It's best to just block him, makes the viewing experience much better on here. Several long term posters have already left because of his type, no point getting sucked into his trap.

9 hours ago, evissy said:

So why is it not a good thing if we did as well? Why can't we be a top dog and still make transfer profit? Because it is not traditionally so? I think we are able to lure the talent at Chelsea better than those said clubs.

I think the idea is both simple and good. I haven't seen the Blueco strategy on paper but it looks like we are doing this on purpose.

I am sure the visits at Brighton gave them these ideas.

Maybe we can be without that ugly sponsor on the front while making profit on sales. 🤔😉🤣🤣🤣

Because top dogs buy top players and don't make transfer profits. The other 5 clubs who make transfer profits are not top dogs ...btw what do you mean you haven't seen the BlueCo strategy?

You keep telling us the plan is working !!

Or are you going to tell me the "plan" and the "strategy" are different things and you only know what one of them is ?

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3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

It's best to just block him, makes the viewing experience much better on here. Several long term posters have already left because of his type, no point getting sucked into his trap.

Oh I don't mind him, he's obviously not serious when he defends the owners on everything they do or don't do.. He can't be a Chelsea fan, he's too optimistic about absolutely everything!!

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Here is you saying it can take over a year. i followed it up by saying we can and have done something short term with relative ease in the past.

This is my post saying we could and should have done something short term over the past year of wasted revenue.

I can't see a single logical reason this can't have been done in the short term last season in the league, or by the way things are going this season too.

Why have these discussions not been happening for the past 15 months when our IA deal ran out?

Here we go again.

I said Newcastles deal took over a year . That was a complicated deal and there were potentially issues around APT and as a consequence FMV .That was one deal. I didn’t say deals.

Ironically we did do something short term in 24/25. That sort of deal is far easier to negotiate of course but that isn’t what the owners are said to be negotiating

Are you ITK to post with any proof that the club haven’t been in talks for the last 15 months ? Indeed everything in the press suggests we were in discussions and had concrete offers from two companies but again it seems that those deals didn’t match their requirements.

The fact that you can’t see any logical reason doesn’t mean there isn’t one. Could it be an issue around exclusivity? Could it be an issue with Nike ? I have no idea of the answer but like me our work experience is a mile away from the world of sponsorship deals and maybe some skills would be of value in that world but certainly not enough to be a player in that environment.

12 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Here we go again.

I said Newcastles deal took over a year . That was a complicated deal and there were potentially issues around APT and as a consequence FMV .That was one deal. I didn’t say deals.

Ironically we did do something short term in 24/25. That sort of deal is far easier to negotiate of course but that isn’t what the owners are said to be negotiating

Are you ITK to post with any proof that the club haven’t been in talks for the last 15 months ? Indeed everything in the press suggests we were in discussions and had concrete offers from two companies but again it seems that those deals didn’t match their requirements.

The fact that you can’t see any logical reason doesn’t mean there isn’t one. Could it be an issue around exclusivity? Could it be an issue with Nike ? I have no idea of the answer but like me our work experience is a mile away from the world of sponsorship deals and maybe some skills would be of value in that world but certainly not enough to be a player in that environment.

What do you mean 'here we go again'? You can't reply to someone on a thread then kick up a fuss when they reply to you lmao

So why did you bring their deal up to justify it taking so long for Clearlake to strike a deal, if its not relevant to our situation?

I haven't said they haven't been in talks for 15 months, i'm sure they have been. Reports in the media seem to suggest that too. I question their competence to get a deal over the line. This seems like the Jackson saga, where we set an asking price of 80M. Obviously no one is paying that, so rather than selling for 50M and making a tidy profit, we're sat with him on the books for another year. With Jackson we can loan him to recoup some of the loss, i'm questioning why we aren't securing short term deals to offset the loss in this scenario. An entire season with no sponsor last year is a colossal failure. They managed to drag one in for the CWC so once again there is no excuse for the season.

I think looking at the fact no other club in world football has failed to secure a front of shirt sponsor for two years running (3 if you include the dodgy IA deal), would seem to suggest the issue is with us.. Not the huge global corporations that easily agree deals with every other club... I'm sure you're right though, lets ignore the common denominator and blame others, we can do no wrong!

Is this correct.... FIFA rules ?? Either way , we need to drop our asking price for Jacko surely ?

Put him up for sale at £5 , Levy will jump at it , he loves a bargain !

"FIFA rules state that one team can only loan six players abroad at any one time, and the Blues have already used five slots and are still trying to get rid of a whole host of players including Christopher Nkunku, Raheem Sterling, Ben Chilwell and Axel Disasi, so they may need to keep their last slot free."

9 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

What do you mean 'here we go again'? You can't reply to someone on a thread then kick up a fuss when they reply to you lmao

So why did you bring their deal up to justify it taking so long for Clearlake to strike a deal, if its not relevant to our situation?

I haven't said they haven't been in talks for 15 months, i'm sure they have been. Reports in the media seem to suggest that too. I question their competence to get a deal over the line. This seems like the Jackson saga, where we set an asking price of 80M. Obviously no one is paying that, so rather than selling for 50M and making a tidy profit, we're sat with him on the books for another year. With Jackson we can loan him to recoup some of the loss, i'm questioning why we aren't securing short term deals to offset the loss in this scenario. An entire season with no sponsor last year is a colossal failure. They managed to drag one in for the CWC so once again there is no excuse for the season.

I think looking at the fact no other club in world football has failed to secure a front of shirt sponsor for two years running (3 if you include the dodgy IA deal), would seem to suggest the issue is with us.. Not the huge global corporations that easily agree deals with every other club... I'm sure you're right though, lets ignore the common denominator and blame others, we can do no wrong!

2nd season on the spin we start without one doesn't look that good . Evissy might have some knowledge that it's a different way of doing things due to "Russian concerns'?? .