who is going to leave this season?

[ivorycoast]

OUT:

Drogba - he said that he wanted to go overseas before JM left so i guess now is a good time. maybe staying if we win CL

lamps - still waiting on the contract?

STAYING:

Cech - blue through and through imo.

Carvs (i hope) - really hope this guy stays, but there have been rumors though.

who else?

[loz]

I think Pizarro will be 'allowed to leave' on the grounds that it 'never really worked out' - i.e. it was a mistake in the first place.

Drogba obviously appears to be a formality however as for anyone else I think that will be entirely down to how the curent management team settle down and whether it looks like we are going to bring in a new manager. I would imagine if a decision is made to bring in a new manager the players will know about it (and who it is) quite a while before any public statement is made and therefore they will have time to assess where they feel their future lies.

The other person I think may decide to move on is Paulo however I don't think it will have anything to do with Jose leaving, it will be down to the lack of playing time he is getting, and has been getting for an extended period of time.

[Tim W]

I think Pizarro will be 'allowed to leave' on the grounds that it 'never really worked out' - i.e. it was a mistake in the first place.

What makes you say that zol?

[loz]

I don't rate him at all. Never thought he was all that good at Bayern and that a place on their bench was probably about right for him. I doubt we will see much of him this season other than possibly few games in January/February when Drogba is away on international duty and even then I think he will mainly be used from the bench.

[Chippy]

I think Pizarro will be 'allowed to leave' on the grounds that it 'never really worked out' - i.e. it was a mistake in the first place.

Drogba obviously appears to be a formality however as for anyone else I think that will be entirely down to how the curent management team settle down and whether it looks like we are going to bring in a new manager. I would imagine if a decision is made to bring in a new manager the players will know about it (and who it is) quite a while before any public statement is made and therefore they will have time to assess where they feel their future lies.

The other person I think may decide to move on is Paulo however I don't think it will have anything to do with Jose leaving, it will be down to the lack of playing time he is getting, and has been getting for an extended period of time.

I think it depends more how the team is performing than if the players are aware of another new manager coming in

also how they get on with TC,

what makes you think the players have a reason to not rate Grant? do you think they read these forums or do you believe the media crap?

I think they will all be happy to give the guy a chance and with TC and SC the training methods they mentioned (if indeed they did) should be up to a decent standard.

I actually think we never played well at all this season and the Boro and Valencia games were arguably as good as we have performed, the players know that so why would

they be thinking about another change? surely that would be the type of thinking reserved for a lengthy losing run?

I think between the three main coaching staff we could just start to get things right.

Under Jose a lot of us used to wish for more entertaining football (just like Roman) me included but now it seems silverware is god, well maybe there will be a happy medium and

maybe just maybe this lot will stumble (I use that word because if we start to play well and win thats about the credit they will get) upon it.

It could all go bad for us during the ACN and then we will see how they cope in an even tougher time than now, as you say Pizzaro has shown he is only backup quality and

Sheva just hasn't worked so scoring will be very difficult at that time.

If Sheva steps up then and the style of play has changed enough to fit him in perhaps everyone will see this set up could work,

I dont know if that is possible as Sheva looks nothing like the Sheva of old but if it happened that would surely bring them some kudos.

[loz]

Misunderstanding Chippy.

I meant it more in a general sense that it is hard to judge who may stay and who may go until we are more sure who the manager is going to be and thus what the future holds. At the moment we are unsure whether grant really is a long term fixture and I would imagine the players are thinking the same way. Until that is clarified better then there will always be some doubts in some player's minds about their own positions.

I'm not suggesting that the players clearly don't rate Grant.

[evissy]

No one if no one comes in. Drogba have been leaving the day he came here. He's emotional guy and a tendency to say before think. His status is so big in the team and Chelsea image that I don't think he will leave if he keeps scoring and Chelsea has realistic chances to win CL or EPL.

Lamps is best off in EPL. I really don't think he would be as good in Spain or Italy as he is in England. Would he change to another EPL team? He could, but why should he?

[Alan]

I think Pizarro will be 'allowed to leave' on the grounds that it 'never really worked out' - i.e. it was a mistake in the first place.

I don't think Pizarro has been given enough of a chance yet in my opinion, and its too early to say 'it hasn't worked out'.

[evissy]

I think Pizarro will be 'allowed to leave' on the grounds that it 'never really worked out' - i.e. it was a mistake in the first place.

I don't think Pizarro has been given enough of a chance yet in my opinion, and its too early to say 'it hasn't worked out'.

Plus he was brought to Chelsea to fill in Drogs during the ANC. Would be stupid to let him go. I think he has lot to give to Chelsea, he's just not given the chance.

[loz]

I agree he hasn't been given the chance, I am just saying that from seeing him play over the years for Bayern I don't think he is good enough to do a job for us whether that be as a first team regular or an occasional squad player. If all his role is is to fill in for Drogba for a matter of weeks and then go back to not even making a place on the bench then I would have preferred to see us take a chance with SInclair or Sahar then bring in Pizarro. My point about it 'not working out' wasn't me saying that he has been given a fair crack and he has failed to deliver - I just meant that the club would let him go quietly, thank him for his efforts and sweep it under the carpet. Whoever the manager is for next season, be it Grant or AN OTHER is going to be given money to spend and with Drogba probably on his way and Sheva firing on no cylinders I expect a tidy wedge is going to be spent on strikers.

[Chippy]

Misunderstanding Chippy.

I meant it more in a general sense that it is hard to judge who may stay and who may go until we are more sure who the manager is going to be and thus what the future holds. At the moment we are unsure whether grant really is a long term fixture and I would imagine the players are thinking the same way. Until that is clarified better then there will always be some doubts in some player's minds about their own positions.

I'm not suggesting that the players clearly don't rate Grant.

Yeah sorry mate just reread your post,

Its hard being a near on one man Crusade for giving the new regime a chance and some credit, getting a bit over defensive

cheers

[barak81]

Im buying in tot he hype with this one and going to say i think its as good as done that the drogs is of this summer which IMO means it would be very smart to spend big in January for two reasons

1) african nations, we new about this what we didnt know was that no one on the books at the moment looks good enough to step up for a month and do a job. This could obvusly change if sheva is given a chance and finds some form but dont hold hope for any one else doing the job as i think sinclare and kaulo while masivly tallented arent lead the line strkers that can play on there own.

2) If we get the new man in January he will have 4 months to get accustamed to the prem and be ready for next season,

I dont know of two many players that can do the job well in a 4-3-3/4-5-1 type formation that we seem to be carying on with.

Huntelar has done it at ajax and to great affect.

Eto obvusly is one of the best in the world.

Dare i say zlatan?

All of them IMO would be a step down on drogs in terms of sutablilty to the prem and current form but cirtainly with huntelar we would be getting a striker at the start of his career in the grand scheam of things

[loz]

Of those three Huntelaar is the only one we may be able to buy in January due to ongoing CL commitments for the other two. This is why I think it unlikely that we will see any major signings in January - the vast majority of the players we would probably be targetting would be either still involved in the CL or cup tied for the remainder of the CL.

[Y_dizzie]

Im a fan of Bayern and have seen most of their games since 1993 probably, Pizzaro wasnt as bad there as you say Loz.

It was either Roy and Santa cruz or Roy and Pizzzaro alot of the times allthough he seemed to play Pizzaro in the more important games like against Inter in CL where he was very good and scored.

He hasnt really had the chance to prove himself yet allthough i think he looked good as a post player against Valencia.

Anyway i think he should be prefered before Sheva every time, we should sell Sheva while we can still get a decent sum for him.

[Paul Phoenix]

It's a bit early to think about who is going to leave, but I wouldn't be suprised if Ferreira and Drogba was one of them, though. Carvalho is also an option, but I think he will stay. Lampard is a big question, but in the end, why would he leave?

Another one who might leave is Makelele (with both Mikel and Essien seemingly prefered in his position), though, whenever there is an African Cup of Nations, we will need back-up in that position.

Sidwell is another question, as he might want to leave if he doesn't improve (and Chelsea might look for someone more technical), but it's too early to say.

Ballack has said he wants to stay, but that's another big question.

Then there is Shevchenko and Pizarro ... How good will they do this season? So far they haven't impressed, but then again, who has this season (when it comes to scoring goals)?

Our wingers ... Wright-Phillips? He started well, but he doesn't score goals, and there might be other wingers to look for.

I don't think anyone will leave in the January transfer window.

[Tim W]

I reckon Pizzaro could do an ok job, by that I mean score frequently, given the chance and the right delivery I get the feeling he knows where the goal is.

As to Drogba leaving, well he's coming up to 30 so according to current trends will be past it in 6 minutes, so perhaps we should be looking for someone younger anyway.

[Guest]

Judging by Avram Grant's decision to play Kalou as the lone striker in Drogba's absense against Fulham, you'd have to assume his looking at moving the team to a more mobile frontman and away from the likes of Pizarro.