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more worringly.........

''The 27-year-old Brazil forward has been left on the bench in his club's last two matches, with coach Frank Rijkaard preferring 17-year-old Bojan Krkic up front. ''

''The one-time Manchester United target has been far from at his best this term and has even been dropped to the bench by coach Frank Rijkaard. ''

Why sign players who's best years are not necessarily ahead of them?

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Dont know if there is any truth in this but what a great addition to the squad Ronny could be,

He has had a bit of a slump this season but at 27 a new challenge could bring a return to his best form, can you imagine if Frank stayed the midfield would be amazing.

Also if Frank decides to leave it could softeen the blow somewhat.

I like the thought of it although I liked the thought of Sheva, but Lightning(not refering to Shevas pace) cant strike twice,

I think a player of his ability could play in any league, might have to get rid of the ball a bit quicker but I think he'd adapt.

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If we can get him for 8-10 million, then I would be very very happy with this. If it's stupd money, a la Sheva, then no thanks.

He is only 27, and has a good 4/5 years ahead of him. Even if he does lose his pace - it's not like he relies on this alone to do what he does.

In general, i would rather we spent less money finding promising yougsters who become superstars at Chels, and I think we are doing that, but there have to be a few exceptions to the rule, and if the money is right, then Ronny surely has to be one of them.

The amount of 'he's past it' press he has received I think is riduculous. Given his age (27 is not old!) and huge amounts of talent, there is absolutely no reason why he wouldn't rediscover his edge at another club and show why he was and still is one of the best in the world. Just like Frank, it seems a bit like the media decided he was having a crap 06/07 season, and then ignored all facts that proved the contrary. Yes Messi stole the plaudits last season and rightly so, but didn't Ronny still score around 20 goals? That's hardly crap is it?

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Ronnie isn't playing well right now but I think that he can come back and be great again (I said the same thing about Sheva however).

He's 27 and should have a few years left. Drogba is older and probably playing the best football in his life.

On the other hand could this be the first step towards becoming the new Real Madrid? All big stars and nothing else?

Ballack, Sheva and Ronnie. I hope I'm wrong.

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Where there's smoke?

I'm kinda resided to the fact that we've got him already. So many stories of his unrest, no other club linked with him, it's just a matter of time.

If Roman wants him, he'll sign him, regardless of wages, transfer fee and whoever is supposed to mange him thinks.

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Thing is, I agree with you, but at the same time I think we'd be stupid to miss out on Ronnie, if he's available for a reasonable price. I think the problem is that we've wasted our galactico quota (ie in my mind, the number of established star players you would accept in the team) on Ballack and Sheva, so the thought of bringing in another one does seem wrong.

However, if you took away those two players, and told me Ronnie was coming in, I'd be ecstatic, as you do sometimes need to spend a bit to get the absolute best in the business, and he is exactly that. We may find our own wonderkid given time, but we sure as hell ain't there yet.

I guess when I see Ronnie in our team, I don't see Sheva or Ballack alongside him, so although that doesn't get away from the fact that we have mistakenly invested in these two players, I don't see us as having a 1st 11 at least of big name galacticos.

Still not convinced either way to be honest, but I just know that if Ronnie is available on the cheap and he ends up at L*verpool or Man U, we will be kicking ourselves.

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Dont know if there is any truth in this but what a great addition to the squad Ronny could be,

He has had a bit of a slump this season but at 27 a new challenge could bring a return to his best form, can you imagine if Frank stayed the midfield would be amazing.

Also if Frank decides to leave it could softeen the blow somewhat.

I like the thought of it although I liked the thought of Sheva, but Lightning(not refering to Shevas pace) cant strike twice,

I think a player of his ability could play in any league, might have to get rid of the ball a bit quicker but I think he'd adapt.

How did I know that you'd think it was a good idea??? icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

You'll doubtless be surprised to learn that I think it's a terrible idea!

The last thing we need to do is go around buying other teams cast offs. If they want to sell Messi, or Iniesta then I'd be very interested. But not some fat playboy who can't be bothered.

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How did I know that you'd think it was a good idea??? icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Probobly because you know I've got a bit of faith in who our Manager thinks might fit in and I like entertaining Football icon_wink.gif

You'll doubtless be surprised to learn that I think it's a terrible idea! Oh mate I'm amazed, I usually look to you for guidance icon_lol.gif

The last thing we need to do is go around buying other teams cast offs. If they want to sell Messi, or Iniesta then I'd be very interested. But not some fat playboy who can't be bothered.

Yeah he's fat as Frank and he probobly wears a dodgy tracksuit sometimes, thing is he's also one the most skillful players I've ever seen

if he came here for a reasonable fee which looks possible, at 27 there is no reason why he couldn't get his career back on track,

even the sight of the oldest mock up picture "I want that one" wouldn't be so funny if he signed for one of our premiership rivals.

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I would welcome ROnnie with 4 arm. My two and I would borrow Chippy's for the day.

The only reservation I would have is that I am not sure if we would be better off signing him in the summer rather than January. The reason I say this is because his form has dipped (although this is still very much relative) and he is rumoured to be a little over weight.

If he comes in January he will, rather unfairly, be expected to deliver from the second he cleans his teeth on the morning of his debut (and I mean by some Chelsea fans as well as the media). It is unlikely he will be able to turn round what, by his standards, has been an average season so far instantly. We may be better bringing him in at the end of the season to give him time to get back in tip top shape under Ten Cate's watchful eye and to settle in with the squad and in London.

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How did I know that you'd think it was a good idea??? icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Probobly because you know I've got a bit of faith in who our Manager thinks might fit in and I like entertaining Football icon_wink.gif

You'll doubtless be surprised to learn that I think it's a terrible idea! Oh mate I'm amazed, I usually look to you for guidance icon_lol.gif

The last thing we need to do is go around buying other teams cast offs. If they want to sell Messi, or Iniesta then I'd be very interested. But not some fat playboy who can't be bothered.

Yeah he's fat as Frank and he probobly wears a dodgy tracksuit sometimes, thing is he's also one the most skillful players I've ever seen

if he came here for a reasonable fee which looks possible, at 27 there is no reason why he couldn't get his career back on track,

even the sight of the oldest mock up picture "I want that one" wouldn't be so funny if he signed for one of our premiership rivals.

There's only one reason Barca would be selling for a reasonable price. You would think that we would have learned our lesson with Sheva.

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It has nothing to do with Barca's selling price. His contract can be bought out at the end of this season and so they have no way of determining his price

My point was why would Barca let him go unless they felt that he wasn't the asset he once was? It is true that he could find moving to London motivated him to recapture his previous form, but it might also provide him with other opportunities to go out clubbing whilst picking up a nice pay check.

If we bought him we would betaking a big gamble. Can he cut it in the PL? Will he be able to get his mind together? Will he fit in to the team?

We would not be buying the best player in the world at the top of his form. We would be buying someone who used to be the the best in the hope that he might become that again.

Personally, I don't think it is a bet we should take or need to take. We would be better off trying to find the next player to be the best in the world.

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It has nothing to do with Barca's selling price. His contract can be bought out at the end of this season and so they have no way of determining his price

My point was why would Barca let him go unless they felt that he wasn't the asset he once was? It is true that he could find moving to London motivated him to recapture his previous form, but it might also provide him with other opportunities to go out clubbing whilst picking up a nice pay check.

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt then shall we?

If we bought him we would betaking a big gamble. Can he cut it in the PL? Will he be able to get his mind together? Will he fit in to the team?

It would be a gamble but if he came here for a realistic fee and not on a long contract then I am sure Roman would find it a gamble worth taking if the Manager feels he can fit him in with the team and if Ten Cate (who will know more about him than any of us can guess) thinks the player can motivate himself for the challenge and if he feels he would be suited to the Premier League.

We would not be buying the best player in the world at the top of his form. We would be buying someone who used to be the the best in the hope that he might become that again.

True he has had a couple of ordinary (by his standards) seasons but a new challenge could be what he needs, he is not past it or over the hill and if we got three seasons of him in average form we would have a very good addition to the team at the least.

Personally, I don't think it is a bet we should take or need to take. We would be better off trying to find the next player to be the best in the world.

A difference of opinion here icon_wink.gif

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It's also worth making the point that having a genuine flair player at the Bridge, like Ronnie, might actually help us attract the best young attacking talent in Europe. The prospect of learning from, and then in time replacing one of the world's greatest would be a big big attraction to a young creative player. Let's face it, right now if you are looking for a club where you will have the freedom to grown and develop as a true creative dynamo, you wouldn't exactly pick Chelsea as your first choice would you? Should Ronnie come and succeed, the halo effect this could have on changing people's perceptions of Chels could work very much in our favour.

Or he could end up joining Sheva as the laughing stock of the Prem, but for me it is a gamble worth taking.

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It's also worth making the point that having a genuine flair player at the Bridge, like Ronnie, might actually help us attract the best young attacking talent in Europe. The prospect of learning from, and then in time replacing one of the world's greatest would be a big big attraction to a young creative player.

Good point. Look at the wealth of talent that were attracted to the Bridge when Ruud was here, plus of course, Gianfranco. I think it would be a great move.

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