Lofty Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) is far too long a thread is far too long for a thread on a player we didn't buy at a price that wasn't paid. So I ask the question. Are you glad we didn't buy Robinho? Edited September 8, 2008 by Lofty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 As soon as it became clear what sort of price we'd have to pay in order to get him, I was convinced I didn't want him at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 As soon as it became clear what sort of price we'd have to pay in order to get him, I was convinced I didn't want him at Chelsea. i agree to an extent, but if that dopey Manc clown Kenyon was happy to spend 37.5m euros on a 30 year old Ukrainian - then surely Robhino at 40m euro represents a bargain in Kenyon's world of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Just because you make one mistake, doesn't mean you have to repeat it. I'm a little surprised that Felipe didn't have a plan b in case we couldn't sign Robinho...sounds a bit naive. I mean, anything can happen and just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 i'm glad now, although i was looking forward to seen him in a chelsea shirt after reading all the different reports, and watching his my head is at chelsea interview i'm pleased he went somewhere else, it will only be a matter of time before he is discontented at city, and i think it would be the same if he had come to chelsea, after a while he would have started moaning and under performing, demanding more money or a move somewhere else (probably man city) its quite clear the bloke is purley driven by money ok a majority of players in the premiership are the same but at least they get there heads down and get on with it i can see robinho eventually been more trouble than he's worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yes, but am gutted we didn't get someone else in instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yes, but am gutted we didn't get someone else in instead. Gutted we didn't get him - so is Scolari deep down. He had 2 transfer targets when he arrived and we failed to deliver on 50%!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Gutted we didn't get him - so is Scolari deep down. He had 2 transfer targets when he arrived and we failed to deliver on 50%!! Don't understand why we didn't have anyone else on the target. It was known that if Ronaldo doesn't go to Real they might be eager to keep Robinho. We handled the whole thing wrong. Okay, if that abudhabi guy wouldn't have bought city in the last day of transfers we would have landed Robinho. It is a long road to January and even then there are not many prime targets. If we stay injuryfree we are fine but I don't even want to remember that Terry-Carvalho period two years back. Had to play Essien-Ferreira as centerbacks against Liverfool at Anfield :lol: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Don't understand why we didn't have anyone else on the target. It was known that if Ronaldo doesn't go to Real they might be eager to keep Robinho. We handled the whole thing wrong. Okay, if that abudhabi guy wouldn't have bought city in the last day of transfers we would have landed Robinho.It is a long road to January and even then there are not many prime targets. If we stay injuryfree we are fine but I don't even want to remember that Terry-Carvalho period two years back. Had to play Essien-Ferreira as centerbacks against Liverfool at Anfield :lol: . PlanB = 2nd best! No point signing someone for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 No point signing someone for the sake of it. If we didn't need a plan b, you could say we were signing Robinho just for the sake of it. I think we needed to strengthen our attack, but was Robinho the only available player in the world that could do that? Seriously? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 If we didn't need a plan b, you could say we were signing Robinho just for the sake of it. I think we needed to strengthen our attack, but was Robinho the only available player in the world that could do that? Seriously? ;) I know we lack options up front, but there's no point missing out on Robinho and signing someone like Craig Bellamy just cos we need a forward, that's the point I was trying to make. We can only get someone to fill the role the manager has in mind and someone who has enough quality, we don't need another 'squad' player. We need a player with a bit of sparkle about him, I think thats why Filipe wanted this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byatt Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I'm glad we didn't sign him in the end, we've seen a bad side of a very good player, if he'd have wanted Chelsea enough he'd have knuckled down at Madrid until they agreed to sell him in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I know we lack options up front, but there's no point missing out on Robinho and signing someone like Craig Bellamy just cos we need a forward, that's the point I was trying to make. Why would we have to get someone like Craig Bellamy as a plan B? Robinho's not the only quality player out there, now is he? It's not like he's head and shoulders above other attacking players out there. I mean, what is this special thing that only he could've provided to Chelsea? If Felipe only wanted Robinho and didn't feel the need to consider other options, it sounds like Robinho would've been a bit of a luxury buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Perhaps it was Deco who wanted Robinho and Big Phil told him he would bring him????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byatt Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Perhaps it was Deco who wanted Robinho and Big Phil told him he would bring him????? I'm not so sure the players would identify potential transfer targets to the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Why would we have to get someone like Craig Bellamy as a plan B? Robinho's not the only quality player out there, now is he? It's not like he's head and shoulders above other attacking players out there. I mean, what is this special thing that only he could've provided to Chelsea? If Felipe only wanted Robinho and didn't feel the need to consider other options, it sounds like Robinho would've been a bit of a luxury buy. I'm not saying Bellamy, I was using him as an example. What other attacking players out there were available to transfer to Chelsea with 1 hour of the transfer window left? Why didn't we have one lined up,? - because everyone thought it was a full gone conclusion that he'd sign for us.....the club were selling shirts with his name on FFS - We also sold SWP days before on the strength that Robinho was coming!!!! You can't go round courting every top player hoping that one of them will sign for you, and then turn your back on the others once they do. You have a target and money permitting, you go and get him, simple as that! (Manu ala Berbatov, Rooney, Ferdinand, Hargreaves). If you settle for 2nd best or your 3rd or 4th choice you end up with a squad like Sunderland's that all I'm saying. A total f*ck up from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Obviously there weren't any players available to sign within the last hour if no approaches were made beforehand, but then again, I don't think you should leave it until the last hour. It was clear we needed an attacking player, but Felipe decided to play the Robinho or nothing -game. Once the cock up about the Robinho shirts became public, it started to look bad from our point of view and at that point at the latest I think we should've looked at other options just in case. Yes, we sold SWP, but I don't really see that Robinho would've been a direct replacement for SWP. I think it was more to do with SWP not being good enough. You don't need to approach every player out there, but I just think it would make sense to have a couple of options available, because you never know what can happen with these transfers. I think Arshavin(just as an example) would've been just as good an option as Robinho. Both are creative attacking players with a huge pricetag, so both would've been a bit of a gamble as neither has played in England before, but both have potential to be big hits in the Premiership. I have a feeling we could've got Arshavin if we just would've made a serious bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 SWP > Robinho ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 People here have already made the points I hope to. Yes, I was glad we didnt bring him in If the price was teh original 19 million, I wouldve thought differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Well money is no object... and we kind of needed him. The only compromise would have been that we looked like mugs to the media... but that would probably have been worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Plo, that kind of reasoning might have flown in Roman's mind if it were 2005. Times are different. We needed a quality winger, and we didnt have to get gouged to find that. Im equally sorry we didnt get someone as a backup plan, but to hell with doing it that way Honestly, I just dont understand the fascination with Robinho before he has ever kicked a ball in England. He is a talented youngster and yeah, he did well for Madrid. But after everything that has happened does this not strike you as the kind of player that we should, really, be avoiding? High price tag, not the best attitude, unproven, smallish, questions about their mental toughness? (especially by a guy as diplomatic as Pele) Its all conjecture and I may well look like a total moron, but Robinho struck me as the love child of Sheva and SWP. Overrated, not quite right, and when he gets in a funk we might lose him for good. The only thing that couteracted how I felt was Scolari. I trust Scolari's judgement, and if he wanted Robinho, then there mustve been something to him. I just didnt see it. Probably because I would rather have less flash and sizzle than quality, reliable team players that can get the job done if not spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Plo, that kind of reasoning might have flown in Roman's mind if it were 2005. Times are different. Thats right - times are different. We were Champions in 2005. And rulers of the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 And we were taking annual losses of 170 million pounds. How long is Roman willing to keep that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Anyone think this thread will go to 44 pages as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killbill Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I'm a little surprised that Felipe didn't have a plan b That's Joe Cole I guess. As for the original question I don’t know yet, I’ll have to see how good he is. I saw a few minutes of the Brazil game the other night and I saw him do a flick here and a flick there everywhere a flick. So “Flick wise†he seems good, I’ll have to see if he has more substance than that and if he can change/influence a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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