Tim W Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Should we be so bold and muscle in and rob the mancs of Tevez, pretty sure if we put 32 million in Joorabchian's sky rocket he'd give him to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Should we be so bold and muscle in and rob the mancs of Tevez, pretty sure if we put 32 million in Joorabchian's sky rocket he'd give him to us. its a strange situation isnt it. he brought nani on today and only gave tevez about 10 minutes, its almost as though fergie doesnt really want him. id gladly take him at chelsea, just not sure how much the fee would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Should we be so bold and muscle in and rob the mancs of Tevez, pretty sure if we put 32 million in Joorabchian's sky rocket he'd give him to us. No we shouldn't. Not the sort of striker we need as he drifts around almost as much as Anelka does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Does he stand offside as much as Anelka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 while we could use a second striker having missed out on robinho, I think we should still focus on aguero. we really can't let him stroll over to barcelona without a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Given that Drogba poss will have fewer and fewer games in him as seasons pass and the jury is out on wether Anelka is good enough. We possibly will be in the market for 2 strikers, Tevez is proven in the premiership and would be a good buy if we could get him for one of the berths...Aguerro being the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Aguerro and Tevez in the same side? Can't see that working at all. Both are secondary strikers and I can't see them forging a successful partnership. If it was one from two then I would choose Aguerro without any need to consider it. He is an exciting talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Aguerro and Tevez in the same side? Can't see that working at all. Both are secondary strikers and I can't see them forging a successful partnership.If it was one from two then I would choose Aguerro without any need to consider it. He is an exciting talent. Don't they play together at international level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Not sure how many times they have played together so far. Aguerro's international career is only just starting although he has nearly scored as many international goals as Tevez already. Maybe I am only one left who thinks this but I am still to be convinced Tevez is a truly class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Maybe I am only one left who thinks this but I am still to be convinced Tevez is a truly class player. I'm with you on that one Loz, plus he's one ugly bar steward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 For some reason I always thought those scars were caused by a car crash but it was only a few days ago that I read that they were caused by him being scolded with boiling hot water as a kid which resulted in him being in hospital for a few months. Pretty horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I have yet to see anything from Tevez that would make me want to take him ahead of going for Aguerro. And proven in the premiership???? Since when? Like sir red nose or not, I don't think he'd be having him sit on the bench as much if he was "proven" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim W Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 I have yet to see anything from Tevez that would make me want to take him ahead of going for Aguerro. And proven in the premiership???? Since when? Like sir red nose or not, I don't think he'd be having him sit on the bench as much if he was "proven" I think it's more a question of pushing him out as united don't have the money to buy him. As much as the club deny it they are up to their necks in debt, and pushing players to one side is classic red nose behaviour, he doesn't want to lose face when they don't sign him. Maybe it's no coincidence that Rooney has found his shooting boots since Berbatov has started, but I rate Tevez his movement on and off the ball is superb. Although I must admit the thought of nicking him off of red nose appeals more, which I suppose is not the best basis for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I wanted to see us sign him before he went to West Ham. Then I wanted us to sign him when Manure got him. And I still think we should sign him now if he's available. In fact, we should jump at the chance He's a class player, and has that knack of coming up with big goals on big occaisions. He would slide straight into our side, in the wider, support striker role that Scolari had earmarked for Robinho. He's 100% proven in the Premiership as well in my opinion (sorry mad mac). He singlehandedly saved West Ham from the drop, then came up with the big goals late in the season that won manure the league. I would take him over an unproven Aguerro in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 The biggest problem I have with Tevez is the same one I had with Kezman (although granted Tevez is better than Kezman!) - they both spend far too much of the time looking at their own feet. Too often Tevez has the ball and ends up blowing a good opportunity because he can't seem to look up and run with the ball at the same time, as a result he has little awareness of what is going on around him, including where his team mates and the opposition players are. As a consequence he tends to pick up the ball in a good position, beat the defender but takes so long to then work out where to pass it to the defender has either caught up with him again or he still doesn't look up and decides to turn back into the defender again. I don't think Ferguson is playing him out of the team for financial reasons, I think he is pushing him out of the team because he has realised he simply isn't good enough and certainly not worth £32m. I am not saying he is a dreadful player, I just think West Ham is about his level and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Man Utd don't sign him and he ends up moving for far less that the £32m figure being discussed. I just hope it isn't us that buy him. Not sure what the big goals that won Utd the league were. I don't recall him scoring a single goal in the 2nd half of the season that was a match winner (could be mistaken but if I am I bet it was only once or twice). I remember he got a goal here and there when Utd scored 3 or 4 but never a crucial one to turn a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea FC Champions Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Not sure what the big goals that won Utd the league were. Vs blackburn 90th minute.. i would be happy if we get him around 15-25 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 OK I will give you that one but it wasn't a match winner was it - it saved a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustyheadhunter Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 no way he aint good enough. certainly he has a few flashes of brilliance but if he aint good enough for them then he def aint good enough for us. and as for 32 mill? he aint worth 12 never mand 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Yeah, I can't remember him scoring any "late winners" to give Man Utd the title last season?! I think he is another Sweepy type player; looks good in a less than average team, and gets a lot of hype. THe move to Manure will have inflated that hype too. I remember watching the world cup, and everytime Tevez got the ball it was as if he just stuck his head down and ran for the corner flag Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4EVERCHELSEA Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I like tevez. i just think he's work ethic is what people get to high on. he's like rooney without the bit of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Awkward situations abound for Ferguson at the moment, involving Ronaldo, which is the most visible, the [as yet] unresolved litigation surrounding Mikel, which is ignored yet lingers in the background, and Tevez, who is probably the least of his worries, but who is nevertheless getting more and more unsettled by being benched on a regular basis. In each case it could be argued that United have had their metaphorical cake [Ronaldo for another season, Mikel’s money for nothing and Tevez on tick] and have either eaten it whole or are munching away, but not exactly enjoying the taste at present. Indirectly linked with the Winker through our close season transfer wrangle with Robinho and Real Madrid and directly affected by the Mikel saga, everybody on here knows that I would have loved Chelsea to have become totally involved with Tevez long ago. Ronaldo’s goals may have played a major role in United doing the double last season, but I believe that Tevez’s contribution was of real significance as well and the fact that he did it all ’on the cheap’, as it were, only made matters worse. Whilst we have moved on since then and I now have to agree to a certain extent with Loz when he says that he’s not an exact fit in the new scheme of things, I do believe him to be world class and an ideal second striker, which is what we currently need. Also, in view of the problems mentioned, there may well be a deal to be done and a financially viable one at that… Real say they don’t want Ronaldo anymore and, if believed, Tevez becomes a big name alternative with Ferguson powerless to stop the deal, unless he pays the top dollar that he should have paid over initially. In short, at the end of a season when both matters come to a head, United can see themselves being squeezed by Real over this issue - Ronaldo desperate to leave, Tevez disillusioned and their main suitor sitting back and saying ’Now let me see, who shall we go for?’ For our part, Kenyon seems as happy to distance himself from any January signings as he is reluctant to give Real Madrid the time of day, but, given these circumstances and a fair legal wind to go after United for the return of the Mikel payout, showing interest in Tevez might prove an astute move. Admittedly, there is no point in an approach if Felipe does not see the player as a useful addition to the squad, which I do, especially when you consider the noticeable lack of other top quality attacking options likely to be available once the Robinho money burns a hole in Real’s pocket. We are reputedly not spending heavily anyway and this appears to rule out Aguero, whereas, when it comes to a Robinho 'type' who can also play on the wing, I would much rather see us advance the development of Miroslav Stoch than go down the ’we must buy a good wide man’ route yet again. Before anyone counters by saying that there must also be other youngsters coming through [in the Tevez mould] so why doesn’t the same argument apply, let me say that getting the Argentinean into the squad would serve a dual purpose, in so far as he would also be out of United’s, and there is a certain fellow countryman in our ranks already who might just play rather well alongside him, given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) I'd take Tevez over Anelka and Kalou any day of the week. I'd have taken him back when he was in Corinthians, I'd have taken him back when he proved that he can handle the PL while playing for West Ham and yes,I'd take him now. He is still young and very talented player who has more natural ability and physical strength than Kalou and is yet to reach his peak unlike Anelka who's past it. I compare our strikeforce with that of MU and Arsenal and it's mind boggling that after spending so much money, besides Drogba, we have no reliable option upfront. Edited October 26, 2008 by abramovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byatt Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I don't think a Tevez type player is the answer, we need a goalscorer, a Van Nistelrooy or Owen type striker who only needs one chance a match to get a goal, at present we don't have one of those and i think its essential to the way we play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I would certainly take Tevez over Anelka, Kalou or Malouda however I would take Robert Fleck over them! I don't see that the answer to having a striker who isn't suited to our team is to bring in another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Isnt Tevez on a appearance fee basis at the Mankers ie Red nose saves money everytime he doesnt use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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