BlueDay Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It is looking almost certain that Carlo is going to be playing a diamond midfield next season with 2 strikers. Presumably Drog and Anelka. In the past couple of season when we have (rarely) played with 2 strikers, they have looked brilliant together. One twos, making space for eachother, Anelka running of Drogbas headers e.t.c Anyone else agree with me that this is going to be the season the pair really hit it off? I can see their being alot of goals between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexelk Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) well scolari said they couldn't work together so it's nailed on that they'll get 70 goals between them next season and i agree, any time they've been playing together they have looked great. they look like they want to play for each other. like jimmy and eidur back in the day (well back in the day for me) Edited July 28, 2009 by sexelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Well they're certainly one of those pairings that makes a lot of sense on paper, and there have been signs that it can and does work on the pitch, so if given enough game time together to develop a serious understanding, then I have high hopes to be honest. Whether you think Di Santo and Studge are good enough to occupy the two reserve spots or not, those four do make up a nice combination of strikers, with Franco and Didier playing the more traditional centre forward role and Studge and Nico providing the trickery and pace. Good stuff I reckon and gives us much needed options in those tight games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 they are not exactly our first line of defence, which could be a problem for midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sals Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I dont think we need it but i still think that we are going to try bring in another striker to our squad. JT came out and said in his recent talks with Roman that a marquee signing was still on the way and i dont think pirlo comes into that classification. We have already tried and failed to land both aguero and pato but i think we may try harder in the coming weeks. Should we not get one of these young guns or any other striker i think niccy and drogs could strike fear into every premier league defenders heart in this upcoming season. They both finished up in great form at the end of last season and they have showed early signs of form in this pre season. The great advantage with playing these two strikers up front together is that they are both world class so if one is having a bad day with the shooting you would expect the other to be able to find the net. As anelka said in a interview recently man u are going to struggle big time without 'CR9' and tevez. A lot of our team are coming into their prime and with a new manager at the helm really trying to shake things up this may not just be Drogba and anelkas season but a season for our whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Haribo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 I remember Gab Marcotti getting really worked up on The Guardian's football podcast over the suggestion that we were playing 4-4-2 at the end of the last season. I agreed to an extent, as Anelka was playing the Henry-type role of floating in from the left, but he was certainly more of a striker than a winger. I think it worked well under Hiddink and I hope they continue it through to the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 don't want to get into another argument, but if anelka was playing on the left, where was malouda playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Haribo Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Sorry, muddling my left with my right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubhappy Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Drogs /Anelka would no doubt get us a sh*t load of goals but we do need a quality player who can be just as effective , only problem is, which player of decent quality is prepared to sit it out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 A fit hungry Drogba provides goals all-round weither scoring or making them!! The amount of goals or assist's he creates for Lamps is unfounded, Frank must love it!!! I'm no statto but his assists must be around 25% of Lamp's goals scored for us!!!!!! I commented in many posts last season that if Anelka could finish top scorer playing off Kevin Davis at Bolton, then he would finish top scorer playing off of Drogba at Chelsea, as it turns out, I proved a world cup winning manager was talking out of his arse when he said they couldn't play together. But what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh CFC Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 If we get a striker in the same class as Drogba and Anelka, then we'd be set with a 4-3-3 or a diamond formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 If we get a striker in the same class as Drogba and Anelka, then we'd be set with a 4-3-3 or a diamond formation. Or a decent wide man who can set'em up...........like Zhirkov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 It will be a bit of fresh air to see us play with two strikers again. My prediction is that if Drogba can stay fit, then he will have a fantasic season. It's no coincidence that his best season by far was when he was paired with Sheva - and Sheva didn't really contribute that much at all, other than pulling defenders off Drogba. I'm still not completely convicinced that Anelka is his best partner. He's clearly the next best striker on our books at the moment, so he should definately be given the chance, but I really think Drogba's ideal partner would be a Zola-type player. Someone who plays a bit deeper, has an eye for a pass, and contributes their fair share of goals as well. Someone who has ball skills good enough that opposition defences can't mark him with a single player, leaving Drogs one on one, where he is unbeatable. So, if we can't buy Aguerro or Ribery, can we have Guddy back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahul Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 (edited) I'd love to have Guddy back but its unrealistic. Another option is we could try Zhirkov in that role? I know he's a wide man and his strength are pace and crosses but his ball skills are very good too....there's no harm in trying. Edited July 29, 2009 by rahuldotchelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 don't want to get into another argument, but if anelka was playing on the left, where was malouda playing? On the moon, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'd love to have Guddy back but its unrealistic. I'm not sure why he would be an unrealistic target. I think he would be a lot easier to land than Ribery, Aguerro or Pato. If we offered Barca the right money (i'd say about 10 million maybe less), I'm pretty sure they would let him go. And I'm pretty sure Guddy would come back as well. The only reason he left was that Mourinho was set on playing a 4-3-3, which meant no spot for him. If Carlo is looking to play 4-4-2, then Guddy would be a shoe-in for a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not sure why he would be an unrealistic target. I think he would be a lot easier to land than Ribery, Aguerro or Pato.If we offered Barca the right money (i'd say about 10 million maybe less), I'm pretty sure they would let him go. And I'm pretty sure Guddy would come back as well. The only reason he left was that Mourinho was set on playing a 4-3-3, which meant no spot for him. If Carlo is looking to play 4-4-2, then Guddy would be a shoe-in for a starting spot. i wouldnt want him back. as good as he was for us when he partnered JFH, his last season and a half or so he was average for us in my opinion. he was struggling for a position, he wasnt scoring enough to play as a forward and he didnt have the stamina to play midfield. his perfect position is as a second striker, and when he got the chance to play there (which was rare i grant you) he didnt play anywhere near well enough to make it his own. i realise people look back on old favourites with rose tinted glasses but he had plenty of very poor games for us in his last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahul Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) I dont think he was given enough chances by Mourinho in his final year with us. If anything he was played as a midfielder rather than a second striker. The system which Mourinho played did not have a place for him so he left. If Ancelotti is thinking about keeping Pizza or Shevchenko then I'd much rather take Gudjohnsen and sell those two to whoever takes them. Edited July 30, 2009 by rahuldotchelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The only reason he left was that Mourinho was set on playing a 4-3-3, which meant no spot for him. If Carlo is looking to play 4-4-2, then Guddy would be a shoe-in for a starting spot. Why do we want Gudjohnsen back? He was never really world class, and he's been slowly deteriorating on the bench at Barca. I love the guy, but Anelka is so much better than Gudjohnsen at the moment it's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 completely different players though, plokoon. anelka is a better striker but for my money eidur is a better footballer- he'd be a great partner for either drogba or anelka AND he'd be a quality option to play behind them. he's 30 or 31 now, but I'd love to see it. not just because he was my favourite player for much of his time here or because you sense he's one of the few who really got what we're about, but also because I reckon he'll continue to be able to offer something well into his thirties. he could be to us what sheringham was to the mancs ten years ago. I saw him in midfield against spurs recently, and he looked the best player on the pitch- I heard he was motm in their subsequent game too. he's a class act (although never that consistent) who can turn games off the bench, it's a shame he's stuck behind xavi and iniesta at barca, but that shouldn't take anything away from him. I'd feel way more confident in our prospects for the season if he came home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think that GUddy is one of my favourite players since I started following Chelsea, and that's in the same company as Gullit, Zola, Lampard, Terry. His vision is as good as any I have seen, and when he was given a chance under Jose, he still played amazingly well. We could use him as a second striker, but I also remember him playing well in the midfield 3 under Jose. Guddy's touch and passing are that precise that I think he could be a great link between the midfield and the front two. With Lampard and Essien just in behind him it would free Frank up a bit more, it would completely rule out the possibility of Essien being played at the tip of the diamond (thank God), and it would be great to see him finish his career with us. My only wondering, is where does Zhirkov fit into the team. I've seen him in pre-season, and play for Russia, and then few obligatory You Tube clips which show he is much better as an attacking full back, our out a little wide...even tucked in on the left behind the attacking mid at the tip of the diamond. I just don't think, from what I've seen, that we'd be able to stick him in at the tip of the diamond and expect him to work there just because we all like him Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack h Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Seeing as this has turned a little bit into a Guddy thread i'll post this here http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5461927,00.html not suprised to see him linked with them but i still hope theres nothing in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 i find some of this "bring back guddy" stuff a bit hypocritical of certain people, namely the ones who dont want pirlo because of his age but are more than happy to sign an older player who just wont fit into the way carlo will want us to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahul Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 They're both different cases. One has bags of premiership experience and will not be bought with a 'marquee' tag hanging on his shirt when he arrives....agreed he might be past it but its not like we're going to splash out 20m on him and of course there's a small matter of seeing things with rose tinted glasses when we're talking about someone like Guddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 It's a fair point though dkw, that's for sure. I mean, I love Guddy and would kinda love to see him back, but if you told me that him returning would hamper the development of some of our younger players, and that, say, Kakuta would get some decent game time if we didn't sign Eidur, then I would have to vote for leaving him be at Barca. We have to start building for the long term at some point soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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