January 2, 201114 yr I'd rather stick with him until the end of the season and see if he can turn things around. One problem we've had recently is lack of stability, because we've been through about 5 managers in 2-3 years. We need to give him time to bring the youth through and rebuild a new squad, because this one is aging and lacking in lots of areas.
January 2, 201114 yr Author "Is there a support Carlo and the Chelsea team option?" Of course. Im not saying he should be sacked. Im just asking for opinions on who could come come in if he resigns (he looked properly miserable at times today) or if he is fired. I think its something to be discussed.
January 2, 201114 yr Close this thread now. I really don't understand why everyone's blaming Carlo, when clearly something's going wrong with our front 3. Drogba's scored TWO GOALS from open play since August, Malouda was on fire at the start of the season, he scored one on Wednesday, but he's not firing at all, and was poor today, Anelka hasn't scored at all in TWO MONTHS. Why sack Carlo when we have a transfer window? Striker/Winger would be much appreciated, plus we could get some old fashioned support from the fans on a free.
January 2, 201114 yr Author Close this thread now. I really don't understand why everyone's blaming Carlo, when clearly something's going wrong with our front 3. Drogba's scored TWO GOALS from open play since August, Malouda was on fire at the start of the season, he scored one on Wednesday, but he's not firing at all, and was poor today, Anelka hasn't scored at all in TWO MONTHS. Why sack Carlo when we have a transfer window? Striker/Winger would be much appreciated, plus we could get some old fashioned support from the fans on a free. FFS. Im not blaming Carlo! I want Carlo to stay. I just wanted to know who people think could be our next manager IF Carlo is sacked or resigns!
January 2, 201114 yr I don't think we should sack Ancelotti. What I do think is he needs to pull his finger out. This crap about being "stuck in a bad moment" that I'm hearing from him week after week after bloody week. Well here's a message from me, Mr Ancelotti: It's YOUR job to drag the players out of this mess, kicking and screaming if necessary. It's YOUR job to get them playing with confidence, to heal dressing room rifts, to instill motivation It's YOUR job to show that no player is bigger than the club, to deal with the big egos, to pick players on merit and not on name. Sod the bloody "moment", do your bloody job and start earning that massive bloody salary.
January 2, 201114 yr Author The point of this thread isn't to discuss Ancelotti. Its is to discuss possible future replacements. Ill get the ball rolling seen as tho nobody else seems to get it. Pep Guardiola. Good enough to manage in England, away from Barcelona?
January 2, 201114 yr I think people should be looking more at Roman than Carlo for our slump and being as Carlo is still here, I would imagine Roman knows where the blame should lie. We took chances trimming the squad and wage bill and its backfired, you can dig out the manager as much as you like about not giving the youngsters enough chances (although I think hes doing ok in this) but they haven't shown enough to be ahead of the players hes been picking and I think the pressure must be huge to keep the team in the CL placings, our trimming and the fact that the rest of the division have improved makes it a difficult time. I don't rate Carlo as the best but hes good and has proven that, now we need stability and we need the owner to let him identify a couple of Targets to make the team play the way he wants them to, so far he has come in and won the double with a team that has failed for the last few seasons (title wise) and now he is struggling with a thinned down version of it and some promising kids.
January 2, 201114 yr The point of this thread isn't to discuss Ancelotti. Its is to discuss possible future replacements. Ill get the ball rolling seen as tho nobody else seems to get it. Pep Guardiola. Good enough to manage in England, away from Barcelona? No mate. It's not a question of whether people get it or not. Just because you've started a thread doesn't mean you can dictate which way that thread should go. If people don't want to discuss or suggest replacements for Ancelotti, then leave it at that.
January 2, 201114 yr Author No mate. It's not a question of whether people get it or not. Just because you've started a thread doesn't mean you can dictate which way that thread should go. If people don't want to discuss or suggest replacements for Ancelotti, then leave it at that. Ok, I apologise.
January 2, 201114 yr I don't think we should sack Ancelotti. What I do think is he needs to pull his finger out. Totally agree. Listened to the whole match on the radio today as was driving back from family and boy was I angry. Angry at the same old "untouchables" being selected and same old subs when we need to change a game. Looked like we snatched a win from the jaws of defeat, then only to f**k it up (where was Doug Rougvie?!!). But even a 3-2 win, as welcome as that would have been, would only be papering over the cracks. Hopefully now he WILL drop players. All three of the front line can fear for their places. Sturridge and McEachran HAVE to start a game. Good thing to come out of today - Bruma getting 90 minutes. Start him next game and in the FA cup - build up his confidence. Play Ivan at right back. Sorry Paulo, you've been a great servant but time for you to go. He couldn't get in the squad when we made the CL final - now he is good enough to make the starting 11? I don't think so. Love Carlo, but I'm running out of patience with his very blinkered team selection and his refusal to try something different. Reminds me of last season when Jose's Inter dumped us out of the CL and he Carlo looked completely lacking in ideas.
January 2, 201114 yr Carlo isn't a miracle worker. Dare I say it, even José would struggle with the squad we have.
January 2, 201114 yr I think people should be looking more at Roman than Carlo for our slump and being as Carlo is still here, I would imagine Roman knows where the blame should lie. We took chances trimming the squad and wage bill and its backfired, you can dig out the manager as much as you like about not giving the youngsters enough chances (although I think hes doing ok in this) but they haven't shown enough to be ahead of the players hes been picking and I think the pressure must be huge to keep the team in the CL placings, our trimming and the fact that the rest of the division have improved makes it a difficult time. I don't rate Carlo as the best but hes good and has proven that, now we need stability and we need the owner to let him identify a couple of Targets to make the team play the way he wants them to, so far he has come in and won the double with a team that has failed for the last few seasons (title wise) and now he is struggling with a thinned down version of it and some promising kids. I think the days of getting out the cheque book as soon as things aren't going quite right are over - and so they should be. Managers like Moyes and Holloway have to make do and prove themselves - time for Carlo to step up a bit. Bruma did well today. IMO that shows we should have put a bit more faith in him earlier in the season rather than play Paulo at CB (huge mistake). Josh was MOTM in his last appearance. Hasn't got on the pitch since, despite our midfield being far from great. How is that helping his development? Today was the first time we scored more than one goal in the league since October, yet Carlo insists on picking the same forwards. Again, that is just poor team seslection. We have a SQUAD - lets use it FFS.
January 2, 201114 yr Carlo isn't a miracle worker. Dare I say it, even José would struggle with the squad we have. Funny you say that. My gut feel is under this situation, Mourinho would have bought in a bunch of senior, cheapies like Sidwell, Ben Haim and Pizarro at the start of the season and basically ignored most of the youngsters bar Kakuta and McEacheran. Would it have gotten better results? Well, im gonna stick my neck out and say maybe it would have dispite the fact it goes pretty much entirely against most fans here perception as to what the way forward is for the club. Edited January 2, 201114 yr by Guest
January 2, 201114 yr Funny you say that. My gut feel is under this situation, Mourinho would have bought in a bunch of senior, cheapies like Sidwell, Ben Haim and Pizarro at the start of the season and basically ignored most of the youngsters bar Kakuta and McEacheran. Would it have gotten better results? Well, im gonna stick my neck out and say maybe it would have dispite the fact it goes pretty much entirely against most fans here perception as to what the way forward is for the club. Hmm interesting. I'm not sure, maybe if we had gone down the cheapies route it would have been better in the short term, but I feel the club are sensibly looking long-term. The likes of Sidwell, Ben Haim etc were never going to be major players with us, but you can see the potential is there for at least one of Josh, Kakuta and Bruma. Having said that I feel we still should have still brought in extra squad players in the Summer as our squad is obviously short. The main difference though between Carlo and José is that we basically still have the same core to the team (Ess, JT, Lamps, Drogs) except a few years older and in worse form. Carlo did wonders to squeeze that great season out of them last year, but you can't keep holding back the inevitable.
January 2, 201114 yr As i've said previously the accountants are running the show at stamford bridge. Carlo is only a puppet on a string as far as i can see. He's caught between a rock and a hard place. He knows he needs to bring in a couple of players but he can't come out and say this if the funds arent there to back him up and he can't be seen to criticise his already mentally fragile players in public. Fair enough he has made mistakes but you cannot make the same demands of him with the squad he has at present in a more competitive league than Jose who had two world class players for every position in a league which only really concisted of us united and arsenal. The slashing of costs in a bid to break even to meet Uefas criteria to enter the champions league may come back to haunt the club if its a thing it causes to fail to qualify.
January 2, 201114 yr I say no. If we sack Carlo we should only look to getting an interim manager who can see us through the rest of the season. Not sure if there's any good options out there. Perhaps Clement can do the job. No reason to chase after a new manager now and rush things to replace Carlo. Better to wait until summer and take our time to find the best option. But if we do sack Carlo one has to wonder if anyone would actually want to be our manager. I don't think I would want the job. Anyway, Carlo wont be sacked and we will go on and win atleast one trophy this season so he'll be safe.
January 2, 201114 yr But if we do sack Carlo one has to wonder if anyone would actually want to be our manager. I don't think I would want the job. That's just as well as I have a feeling you won't be offered it.
January 2, 201114 yr That's just as well as I have a feeling you won't be offered it. Well if I called Chelsea and offered my services, then maybe they would. I have an excellent record on FM after all
January 2, 201114 yr I think people should be looking more at Roman than Carlo for our slump and being as Carlo is still here, I would imagine Roman knows where the blame should lie. We took chances trimming the squad and wage bill and its backfired, you can dig out the manager as much as you like about not giving the youngsters enough chances (although I think hes doing ok in this) but they haven't shown enough to be ahead of the players hes been picking and I think the pressure must be huge to keep the team in the CL placings, our trimming and the fact that the rest of the division have improved makes it a difficult time. I don't rate Carlo as the best but hes good and has proven that, now we need stability and we need the owner to let him identify a couple of Targets to make the team play the way he wants them to, so far he has come in and won the double with a team that has failed for the last few seasons (title wise) and now he is struggling with a thinned down version of it and some promising kids. The buck ultimately stops with the owner, you're right but I'm wondering what the deal is between Carlo and Roman. I could guess that Carlo appealed to RA as someone who is very low key and doesn't rock the boat and just deals with whatever he's given, unlike Jose who was very vocal any time he felt he didn't get full and unquestionable support. I thought with Mourinho it was a bit too much of a drama and it ultimately wore everyone at the club out, but with Carlo it's the other extreme, he seems to toe the party line way too often for his own good. It was obvious that we were taking a gamble by losing some experienced players in the summer without seriously investing in a an aging squad. He basically said, we're okay we've got talented youth who'll step up, I'm happy with the squad. Well, now when the chips are down, the youngsters are still not there and the old guard doesn't cut it anymore. If Ancelotti didn't believe in that policy he should have had his feelings known back in August and if he was fine with it, then he should take the blame for the current mess. Roman should get of his ass and make a choice of what the future of this club is going to be. We're at the critical point now and I don't see how "let's wait till it blows over" tactics we seemed to employ for the last couple of months will get us out of the current crisis. Money needs to be spent and the manager needs to be backed in deed, not in words. Dropping a few underperforming stars would do some good,too. Bar Terry, Cech and Ivanovic, there isn't a single player in that team that dhas earned an automatic spot in the starting lineup.
January 2, 201114 yr It is my understanding Carlo did not want to sign Ramires but the Board insisted on it. Apparently Ancelotti was more interested in signing Schweinsteiger. Let's not forget Mourinho left the Bridge due to similar incidents. Carlo was also miffed about the sacking of Ray Wilkins with whom he had a great understanding. I don't see Ancelotti leaving the Bridge provided the Board don't continue to tamper in team affairs. So it's up to the Board to allow the manager decide on new signings and backroom staff. If Ancelotti leaves or is sacked it will be a tremendous setback for the club.
January 2, 201114 yr It is my understanding Carlo did not want to sign Ramires but the Board insisted on it. Let's stop you there. I remember hearing not so long ago from a fairly reputable source (sorry I can't remember where, and I seriously can not be bothered to go searching for the links), that contrary to popular perception, Ramires was signed at Ancelotti's request.