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Poyet - accepted or not?


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I think that in the years of managing to attend very few games I have missed out on a lot of the feelings and opinions of Chelsea supporters. While I have recently been on here I have learned a few things that I didn’t know and a few things that have surprised me.

One is that I have detected a real dislike of Gus Poyet. I am pretty convinced that he was very well thought of during his time at the Bridge and I thought that he simply became somewhat unwanted by Chelsea and sought to move on. And the fact that he went to Spurs was unfortunate but hardly a crime. By that I mean that he didn’t leave in his prime to ‘better himself’; more that he just wanted a job with a top flight club that didn’t require him to move far.

So is he actually disliked by a large number of fans or is it just a small number who can’t forgive moving to Spurs in any circumstances?

Part the reason I ask this is that with Robbie coming back after a reasonable start as a coach, would Gus’s promising start to his coaching career mean that in the future he would ever be considered and accepted at Stamford Bridge in a similar role?

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I have to admit it still annoyed me the other day when he played in the barbados football legends tournament, representing us alongside LeBouef, RDM, Zola and others whom I consider to be Chelsea legends.

http://www.barbadosfootball-legends.com/chelsea.php

As far as I'm concerned, once you cross that line there is no going back. It would be like Sol Campbell playing in a Spurs legends tournament or Gallas playing in a Chelsea legends tournament or even Ashley Cole in an Arsenal legends tournament.

Poyet could have gone to any club but chose to go to Spurs. In addition to that he also took up a managerial role with them as well inflicting our first home draw of our 08/09 game and looking pretty smug about it afterwards.

I don't like him, end of. Although he was a good player for us.

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Moving to Spurs, not impressive. Kissing their badge in front of us, unforgivable.

Aah, that explains it then. Somehow I missed that. I suppose that was a pretty stupid thing to do.

However, if he continued to do well in management I wouldn't have any beef with him returning.

I guess it's cos I'm getting old and stuff but I increasingly see today’s football as somewhere completely devoid of true feeling and emotion, despite having more insincere displays of loyalty than ever. Badge kissing just doesn't really register with me.

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I didn't like it but didn't blame Gus for moving to them when we clearly didn't want him any more. He wanted to stay in the Premier League and his family wanted to stay in London, besides that we'd had his best years.

But to kiss the badge in front of us was unforgiveable. He could be the best manager in the world and I wouldn't want him here. The only way I'd ever consider it is if he came out and tried to explain why that happened. He claimed to love the Chelsea fans and still talks fondly about us, but if he had any respect for us he would not have done that.

The more I think about it, the more I can see him doing it, the more I hate the twat. No I don't ever want him back at my club not under any circumstances.

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So what about Cudicini then? He went to Spurs as well you know, do you all suddenly forget everything great he did for us and hate him just because he pulled on their shirt?

It's not like someone like Poyet was a Chelsea fan, he was just a player who came in from another country, played for us for a few years and then moved on again. Rivalries between fans mean nothing to the players really.

Grow up.

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Still got a soft spot for him, I loved him as a player when he was with us. But the celebration when he walked off against us in that cup game really riled me. Not in the same stature as Luca, Di Matteo, Zola, Lebouef, Desailly, etc.

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So what about Cudicini then? He went to Spurs as well you know, do you all suddenly forget everything great he did for us and hate him just because he pulled on their shirt?

It's not like someone like Poyet was a Chelsea fan, he was just a player who came in from another country, played for us for a few years and then moved on again. Rivalries between fans mean nothing to the players really.

Grow up.

Please provide an example of when Cudicini has kissed the cockrel in front of the Chelsea supporters.

That's the issue here regarding Poyet, not the transfer. You seem to have missed that point.

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Honestly when it comes to issues like this, I don't think internet forums are that representative of the overall feeling. Poyet made a half time appearance at The Bridge last season and though a few boos could be heard, he got a very good ovation from the vast majority. In fact far from wanting to go to Spuds Poyet has consistently stated that he never wanted to leave Chelsea and that he was bitter that Ranieri squeezed himself and Wise out. And since retiring from playing always calls Chelsea "his club". In his case I tend to put aside any indiscretion in the heat of the moment (I've yet to meet anyone who actually witnessed this famous badge kissing btw) and remember the plethora of great and vital goals he scored for us.

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Its a job at the end of the day and when Gus was no longer in Chelseas plans he went to a team that wanted him and didn't have to uproot his family to do it, he must have been gutted his chances of winning things had diminished and I can sort of understand him showing a bit of alliegance to a club that were happy to employ him, I didn't like it at the time but hate him for earning a living and daring to enjoy it...no, I don't suppose he was directing a dig at the fans and would think it was more a dig at people at the club that let him go.

I loved him as a player though.

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As others have said, its not the fact he moved to Spuds thats the problem, its the fact he kissed the cock in front of the Chelsea fans that ostracised him, and rightly so. What makes it worse for me is I loved him when he was with us, he was a brilliant footballer and a complete mentallist. When he kissed the cock though that was it for me I`m afraid.

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Honestly when it comes to issues like this, I don't think internet forums are that representative of the overall feeling. Poyet made a half time appearance at The Bridge last season and though a few boos could be heard, he got a very good ovation from the vast majority. In fact far from wanting to go to Spuds Poyet has consistently stated that he never wanted to leave Chelsea and that he was bitter that Ranieri squeezed himself and Wise out. And since retiring from playing always calls Chelsea "his club". In his case I tend to put aside any indiscretion in the heat of the moment (I've yet to meet anyone who actually witnessed this famous badge kissing btw) and remember the plethora of great and vital goals he scored for us.

I was there that night, we were 5-1 down , and it was the first time we were going to lose to them in about a thousand years. He did it, and he knew full well what it meant.

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Please provide an example of when Cudicini has kissed the cockrel in front of the Chelsea supporters.

That's the issue here regarding Poyet, not the transfer. You seem to have missed that point.

Maybe that is the point you are discussing at the moment, but I've spoken to plenty of Chelsea fans who hated Cudicini the moment he left as well, forgetting everything he gave to us. It just pisses me off.

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Maybe that is the point you are discussing at the moment, but I've spoken to plenty of Chelsea fans who hated Cudicini the moment he left as well, forgetting everything he gave to us. It just pisses me off.

But that has nothing at all to do with the question about Poyet.

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I was there that night, we were 5-1 down , and it was the first time we were going to lose to them in about a thousand years. He did it, and he knew full well what it meant.

IIRC, he'd been getting a fair bit of stick though so it's hardly surprising he wanted to retaliate in some way - I don't blame him for what he did and he's done a great job managing my second team (the mighty B&H). I think he could do quite well back here, but with the number of people that still bear a grudge I don't think it would work out.

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