Here are the pots based upon the seedings:

Seedings for Euro 2012

• Pot 1: Spain, Holland, Poland*, Ukraine*.

• Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.

• Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.

• Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland

* Poland already allocated to Group A, Ukraine already allocated to Group D.

There are going to be some interesting group stage pairings...

Edited November 16, 201114 yr by Arq

Here is how I'd like to see the draw go

• Group A Group B Group C Group D
  

1. Poland. Holland Spain Ukraine
   
2. Italy. England Russia Germany
   
3. Croatia. Portugal Sweden Greece
   
4. Czech Rep Ireland France Denmark
   

Edited November 16, 201114 yr by BrazilBlue

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

I believe it's always been this small.

As a swede I would not object to seeing us get Poland, England and Denmark or Ireland. Possibly Russia ahead of England, but we do have quite good statistics against England. Worst scenario would be Spain, Germany and France. Still think we could end top 2 in that group, but it would be very difficult (especially with that useless lump of arrogance Zlatan on the pitch).

I would not mind seeing this group: Spain, Germany, Portugal and France. Would be really interesting. And then perhaps Holland, Italy/England, Croatia and Czech Republic.

It goes to 24 in France 2016, which I think will make it even more exciting.

Has the tournement always been this small? I thought there were more teams in it than this.

Its been the same for a while now and I wouldn't want to see more teams just for the sake of numbers. When I look at those pots I don't see a single nation outside of those that would be missed. One could argue about Turkey but over two legs it was evident that they are some way from being Europe's elite. I wouldn't want to see Estonia vs Spain at a premier event like Euro championships.

I'd love to see a group of Spain, Germany, Portugal and France :D

Here is how I would rank the 16 team in the tournament

1. Germany
   
2. Spain
   
3. Holland
   
4. Italy
   
5. Croatia
   
6. Portugal
   
7. France
   
8. England
   
9. Sweden
   
10. Russia
    
11. Ireland
    
12. Denmark
    
13. Greece
    
14. Czech Rep
    
15. Ukraine
    
16. Poland
    

I'd love to see a group of Spain, Germany, Portugal and France :D

I wouldn't but that's me speaking as a Germany fan.

Its been the same for a while now and I wouldn't want to see more teams just for the sake of numbers. When I look at those pots I don't see a single nation outside of those that would be missed. One could argue about Turkey but over two legs it was evident that they are some way from being Europe's elite. I wouldn't want to see Estonia vs Spain at a premier event like Euro championships.

I do agree that this tournament is fine as it is, but I think Europe is the only continent that can get away with adding to their continental championship without diluting the product too badly. None of these "extra" 8 teams will be winning it anytime soon, but imagine the current field right now plus some of the following teams: Serbia, Turkey, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. I think overall the expansion is a good idea, although it helps that I am just a neutral fan.

I wouldn't but that's me speaking as a Germany fan.

In my opinion, Germany are the second best team among the four, if not the best. If that group indeed got formed then my money would be on Germany qualifying to the knock outs.

In my opinion, Germany are the second best team among the four, if not the best. If that group indeed got formed then my money would be on Germany qualifying to the knock outs.

I agree (personally, I think they are the best right now but they still have to beat Spain to prove it), but that doesn't mean I want them to go through a "group of death" just to make the knockout rounds.

Group A

Poland

Greece

Russia

Czech Republic

Group B

Netherlands

Denmark

Germany

Portugal

Group C

Spain

Italy

Rep of Ireland

Croatia

Group D

Ukraine

Sweden

France

England

Group of Death... Group B and by a long shot.

Group of Weak... Group A.

Holland are in for a quiet summer: after the group stage the orange guirlandes can be taken down, while we blame the Germans.

Edited December 3, 201114 yr by Valerie