NathWFC Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Hi everyone, Watford fan here. I'm sure you've all heard about Al Bangura's deportation story, and I know that 99% of football fans are united in support of him, so here's the link to the main petition that's going to be handed to the Home Office. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-al-bangura Thank's a lot to anyone that signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 It's an interesting story. The human part of me (and surely most of us) would love to see a happy ending to the story whereas the rational side of me would like the story to be presented by the media in a more matter of fact way rather than in a red top attention seeking way. By this I mean that I acknowledge totally the heartache the poor kid (and he is just a kid) must be going through and anyone who can't feel that must have a heart of stone however I don't think it would be appropriate for him to be allowed to stay purely on the grounds that he happens to be good at football and thus he is receiving signs of public support above and beyond what other people in exactly the same position as him would receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 A Perfect response Loz, I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I can't think of one good reason why he shouldn't be allowed to stay. The whole thing's a farce. If he was homeless and sponging of the state then fine, but he's not. He has a full time job with a professional football team - well Watford, but you know what I mean - Personally I think it is bureaucracy gone mad. Try concentrating on something important instead I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I totally agree. There is no good reason why this kid should not be allowed to stay in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brit Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 it amazes me that they have a problem considering all the numpties they let in who end up begging on the tube while living in paid for houses and sky tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi24 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 it amazes me that they have a problem considering all the numpties they let in who end up begging on the tube while living in paid for houses and sky tv LOL outta anyfin you cud ave mentioned u syd sky tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 LOL outta anyfin you cud ave mentioned u syd sky tv Did you just call Lofty a 'syd' - oooooohh he won't be happy! Try and write in a bit better English mate - that just looks horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi24 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 LOL outta anyfin you cud ave mentioned u syd sky tv Did you just call Lofty a 'syd' - oooooohh he won't be happy! Try and write in a bit better English mate - that just looks horrific. sorry m8 i thought that "syd" meant said my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 It might but most of us are old farts on here and can only read English - well sort of old farts English any way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 You're calling me (or someone) a said? What's a said? Who's Gibeon Baar? How many fingers am I holding up? How many blue beans make five? Jamie Carragher is a poster on this forum?????? When's your medication due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi24 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 You're calling me (or someone) a said?What's a said? Who's Gibeon Baar? How many fingers am I holding up? How many blue beans make five? Jamie Carragher is a poster on this forum?????? When's your medication due? ey use tryna be funny n clever n just aint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 For Christ's sakes, is that really the best you can do? If so then I apologise for mocking the so obviously afflicted. Otherwise, as I was sayingP: You're calling me (or someone) a said?What's a said? Who's Gibeon Baar? How many fingers am I holding up? How many blue beans make five? Jamie Carragher is a poster on this forum?????? When's your medication due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 back to the original statement: I think that the entire VISA processes are a farce; this is something close to my heart having been deported from the USA even after studying, thus contributing to their economy. Having worked whilest studying, then worked full time after studying, never claimed any benefit, never got in trouble Then some tosser who signed a visa for me ups and leaves. new bloke comes in, thinks I am doing a good job so wants to keep me on...immigration say "sorry mate, gotta go..you've got 30 days to elave the country!" I had to sell EVERYTHING I owned, give away clothes (could only bring back 2 cases), give away a tonne of other things. Then re-applied for a new visa to try and come back to my OLD job....and I was denied. Sorry, to turn this into an "all about me" post. But I feel this kids pain!!! They should look at each case individually, see what the person has or has not contributed to society, and decide. All regular health and background checks should still be done. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkleyblue Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 For Christ's sakes' date=' is that really the best you can do? If so then I apologise for mocking the so obviously afflicted. Otherwise, as I was sayingP:[list']You're calling me (or someone) a said? What's a said? Who's Gibeon Baar? How many fingers am I holding up? How many blue beans make five? Jamie Carragher is a poster on this forum?????? When's your medication due? Tried my best Lfty but the only one I could answer was number 3. I think you are holding up 17 fingers! Am I right? What's my prize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 For Christ's sakes' date=' is that really the best you can do? If so then I apologise for mocking the so obviously afflicted. Otherwise, as I was sayingP:[list']You're calling me (or someone) a said? What's a said? Who's Gibeon Baar? How many fingers am I holding up? How many blue beans make five? Jamie Carragher is a poster on this forum?????? When's your medication due? Tried my best Lfty but the only one I could answer was number 3. I think you are holding up 17 fingers! Am I right? What's my prize? Close enough I'm not telling how many of those fingers (if any) are mine though. Your prize: a night out with that well known Shed End forum poster Jamie Carragher at a venue to be decided by Gibeon Baar, paid for by Rossi24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkleyblue Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 A nice dignified night out then, probably robbing one or another of the dippers first team whilst they are away on yet another "Great Anfield European Night" (copyright ITV scum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Asylum is about the 'need' for protection. This guy can now return as the country has stabilised. Whether or not he pays taxes has nothing to do with the terms of the 1952 convention relating to refugee status. The point is NOT that everyone should be allowed to come in and after a while those earning the most can stay in a sort of 'land grab'. He will easily get a WP anyway no no biggy, but he should not be granted asylum just because he is a footballer or because he pays bigger taxes than the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I think you're missing the point here. Al Bangura didn't come here seeking asylum, he escaped after being kidnapped, and from there made a life for himself. The initial agreement was that he could stay until he reached 18. And that is the only reason why he is being considered for deportation. I agree that having a comparitively high public profile isn't reason enough on it's own to allow someone to stay. However, neither is it adequate reason for sticking to the letter of the law. My feeling is that a complete unknown with similar circumstances should also be allowed to stay, and in fact, Al Bangura's case, should his appeal be successful, could well be used as a legal precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 He came here and made a claim. At which point Sierra Leone was in flux so he was given 4 years 'leave to remain'. Trust me, I know the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Ok fair enough. I still think this case is a little different from the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 If they won't deport convicted rapist's, they won't deport him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 It's all about protection, but criminals can be deported as an undesirable...IF it is safe to return the person. So yes to a Russian being deported, but unlikely for a Somali or someone from Dafur...even a pedo or rapist, drug dealer etc. Them's the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Work permit has been granted (at least temporarily) [iframe:1zijec9b]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/watford/7179542.stm[/iframe:1zijec9b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 As I predicted. Otherwise he would have just gone to play in France on a free. Was refused asylum but granted a work permit. It's by the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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