Simple enough poll.

Now that the pikeys are managed by Zola and Clarke are you prepared to forget all that obligatory hatred and hope they do well for the sake of two Chelsea legends or would you raise a glass to celebrate the Hammers being relegated?

Personally I toyed with the idea that I wouldn't mind West Ham improving under Franco (though not doing very well) however as soon as there was actually a game on I couldn't help but wish them nothing but defeat.

as much as it would pain me to see zola upset, its balanced out by seeing the gypsys upset. id love nothing more than to see them get relegated, especially if we can send them down.

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I hope they get relegated, liquidation and sell all their better players to Newcastle.

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I hope they get relegated, liquidation and sell all their better players to Newcastle.

I contacted Ladbrokes to get the odds on you voting for relegation but they refused to take the bet!!

Success for the pikeys? No chance. Not even for Franco and Clarkey. Mind you, if it was a choice of this lot going down or T*tt*nh*m, I'd want T*tt*nh*m relegated every time.

Im gonna get slayed for this, but as an American who doesnt run into Hammers on a day-to-day basis, I have never hated them with the same intensity as others. In fact, when the opponent is Liverpool, Man United, Spuds, Arsenal, Blackburn, Fulham, or Bolton, I find myself rooting for them. So pretty much half of the league.

:huh:

That said, I think their constant failure after delusions of grandeur are hilarious, up there with Spuds and Newcastle.

But I genuinely hope Zola and Clarkie do the business there. The way I see it, its more or less on the job training for one day coming to Chelsea. Im sure if I lived in London, I would feel differently.

When the opponent is Spurs I want West Ham to win but purely because Spurs are very bottom of the food chain. If it is Utd, Liverpool or Asenal I grit my teeth and stomach wanting a West Ham win purely because most of the time it is the best result for Chelsea.

Anyone else forget it - a West Ham defeat is a always a good thing.

Success for the pikeys? No chance. Not even for Franco and Clarkey. Mind you, if it was a choice of this lot going down or T*tt*nh*m, I'd want T*tt*nh*m relegated every time.

ooohh, now thats a dilemma id love to have. wether i want the pikeys or spuds to go down. last day of the season and they play each other to stay up... id love every minute of it. its a win-win situation.

Heh Mod :huh: I'm supporting Clarke and Zola, not West Ham!

Absolutely not, I did think Zola going there would be a good thing but then I grew up and realised that I was talking sh*te. I hope secret agents Zola and Clarke do the job that all Blues should want to see them and do and take the pikies back to the 1st division where they belong.

Simple enough poll.

How can you say that Loz.. I am completely torn, I cant get over it.... no other player can replace him.. Then I see him jumping up and down at Spammers goals .. I am confused and upset I need therapy.... Cant wait to see him at the Bridge, hate West Ham so so much !! .. what can I do ! ... still voted for them to fail .. I am so sorry Franco :P

Anway, his post match interview.. what a manager brilliant brilliant, what other man in football (name me just one) who does the simple things like apologies to the fans, saying somehting along the lines "I think they were singing for me to wave to them but I was too concentrated on the pitch and I forgot, I am sorry!" ... there is never been and never will be a player who connects with the people like Franco and thats why we love him.

Yes, as long as thry don't do well against us :(

We are losing 12-11 Mod!! We definitely need more old school on here!! I will need to call Bluebeard tonight and get him to log in to vote!! Spoke to BB on the blower yesterday by the way - going to try to be there on November 1st.

The caravan club has to fail, feel sorry for franco and clark, but hate the pikeys with a passion almost as much as the spuds and the dippers.Why did chelsea not get franco on board at our club, as was rumored a couple of seasons ago, or has pk let another one slip the net?

Speaking of West Ham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7630777.stm

:D

Franco may have to tap Vialli for a few million!

Speaking of West Ham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7630777.stm

:D

Franco may have to tap Vialli for a few million!

Just reading that story, i hope they are forced to sell everything (players & ground) in order to pay off the Blades.

Then they can ask the Daggers for a ground share, as that's where they belong :D :lol: :lol:

If it was a smaller club like Robbie and Eddie Newton at the MK Dons then by all means i'd get behind them, but not West Ham, no love for any ex-player should see you root for a rival team

Premier League - West Ham 'fined £30m over Tevez'

Eurosport - Tue, 23 Sep 12:27:00 2008

Sheffield United have won their compensation claim against West Ham after an independent tribunal ruled in the South Yorkshire club's favour regarding the Carlos Tevez affair.

Blades chairman Kevin McCabe revealed that the tribunal found the Hammers guilty of breaching league regulations when they signed Tevez and Argentine compatriot Javier Mascherano, now at Liverpool, at the beginning of the 2006-07 season.

"I can confirm that both clubs have been notified of the ruling," he told the club's official website.

"The arbitration panel has awarded in our favour. The matter is still legally in process so I do not wish to comment any further until we have completed that process."

In response to press reports that West Ham face a £30m pay-out to Sheffield United, McCabe said it would be "inappropriate" to discuss the figure at present.

A West Ham spokesperson told the BBC: "We need to digest the full findings of the arbitration panel and will consult our lawyers on the next steps we might take before making any further comment."

The Football Association confirmed that there was no further right of appeal against the latest ruling.

"The dispute has been heard by a private independent arbitration tribunal set up under the FA's rules," the governing body stated.

"The arbitration tribunal is comprised of one member nominated by each club, plus an independent member agreed upon by the two parties.

"All aspects of the arbitration, including publicity, are then a matter for the arbitration tribunal and the two parties concerned.

"For clarity, the FA did not sit in judgment on this case, did not have any influence on the decision and did not appoint any of the tribunal members."

The three-man panel consisted of former MCC president Lord Griffiths, former High Court judge Sir Anthony Colman and Robert Englehart QC.

West Ham avoided relegation on the final day of the 2006-07 season at the expense of the Bramall Lane outfit, with Tevez scoring the only goal of the game against Manchester United at Old Trafford - his sixth in the final 10 matches.

He subsequently moved to the Red Devils and helped them become Premier League and European champions in 2007-2008.

The original three-man Premier League arbitration panel, which agreed that West Ham had contravened rules on third-party ownership of players, fined the East London club £5.5m instead of imposing a points penalty which would have seen Sheffield United stay up.

The Championship club have since pursued monetary compensation for the losses incurred by relegation, estimated by them at £50m, which include gate receipts, matchday income from hospitality and restaurants and broadcasting monies.

It's funny and a clear split between those that I might call "old school fans", I mean those that understand the passions and hatereds of local rivalry and those that maybe have got into English football from watching it on TV and decided for whatever reason that Chelsea are the light of the world. If you've only seen football for a recently short space of time you would only have seen us as streets above westham, but the truth is that they were once more successful than us, and more recently than that we were both considered yo-yo clubs. If you've missed all of that and you don't know a static full of pikey's then you will probably vote for them to do well.

If you do vote to see Franco and Clarkey do well then quite frankly you've completely missed the point of being a Chelsea fan, no player is bigger than the club and the club has a mutual hatered of westham.

I think it would be better to see them do worse so then he can come to us a coach :D

It's funny and a clear split between those that I might call "old school fans", I mean those that understand the passions and hatereds of local rivalry and those that maybe have got into English football from watching it on TV and decided for whatever reason that Chelsea are the light of the world. If you've only seen football for a recently short space of time you would only have seen us as streets above westham, but the truth is that they were once more successful than us, and more recently than that we were both considered yo-yo clubs. If you've missed all of that and you don't know a static full of pikey's then you will probably vote for them to do well.

If you do vote to see Franco and Clarkey do well then quite frankly you've completely missed the point of being a Chelsea fan, no player is bigger than the club and the club has a mutual hatered of westham.

Nicely put Barn although I am not sure the club that has a mutual hatred of the Pikeys, but for all self respecting Chels fans, there should be no question.

Hopefully they will be playing Millwall in the league soon

I disagree.

I don't know any West Ham fans in real life, and I'm only young so didn't get into football until the '94 cup final, so maybe my view is a little skewed, but I honestly don't see a problem with wanting to see West Ham do well purely for Franco and Clarke.

I'm not saying the players are bigger than the club, but you know what, for me, the players are a very big part of why I love the club. Lampard, Cole, Mikel, Deco, Ballack, Carvalho, JT... you can't go wrong, and yet if for whatever reason our team suddenly comprised of VDS, Carragher, Gerrard, Neville, Fletcher, Barton, Hunt, Bowyer, Diouf, Bellamy and a load of other twats it wouldn't be the same.

It was the same back then too; Zola, Desailly, Gullit, Vialli, Peacock, Spencer, Clarke, Petrescu and a few others are all absolute legends in my eyes, and it brings a smile to my face to see any of them doing well.

Edited September 24, 200817 yr by blizeH

Poyet? He's a total legend and doing fantastic at the moment! :D

Voted no - Hammers fans are second only to Liverpool in terms of tw@ttishness. They love to posture about being salt-of-the-earth cor blimey Cockneys and a 'proper' club. Everyone else has a youth team. They have an 'Academy'. And that "we won the world cup" stuff is getting very old. I want to see them crash and burn, irrespective of who's in charge. If it happens with Clarke and Zola in charge then that's just too bad.

anyone else think Zola`s been watching the Zoolander film lately....