Lofty.

Speaking to the Liverpool Echo, this is what Aldrige actually said: Not qute what the Daily Star would have you believe. But then this is what we've come to expect. Aldrige might (did I sat might?) be a twat and a half, but there's very little to take issue with in the above. Aldridge being Aldrige, he still manages to contradict himself, by saying that he doesn't know why Costa chose to sign for Chelsea rather than Liverpool. Chelsea are a London team, Chelsea can offer regular Champions League football, Chelsea have the financial pull. By saying "Gone are the days when every player wanted to sign for Liverpool given the chance" Aldridge comes as close as he's ever likely to come to acknowledging that Liverpool are no longer a top team. Ignore the crap about Liverpool trying to sign Costa though. That was never going to happen.

Just for that, this is a proper Christmas song:

I've just checked back and you're dead right. I got the image from the official site's Shot Of The Day. "Sep 1985: Pat Nevin of Chelsea in action against Watford at Vicarage Road", reads the caption, which as you say, was the 3-1 defeat, not the 3-1 which was the previous March. I could have sworn the "Sep" wasn't there last time I looked!

No that was in the old First Division. We played Watford at their place a couple of years later, where we lost 1-0 in the FA Cup 4th round. Maybe that's the one you're thinking of?

I'd be more inclined to agree if our form hadn't dropped so dramatically while all that was going on. Relentless bullsh*t about Wayne Bridge's "wife". Daily Mail inventions about a paid for abortion, the handshake bollocks and the cringeworthy but effective "Team Bridge" sh*te, all of which affected not only JT's form, but that of the entire squad.

Making his debut in the match referred to above was Bob Isaac - another name I'd completely forgotten about, but with a story that's very much worth telling. So from Sporting Heroes Net, here's a little more info: Robert ISAAC - Chelsea FC - Biography 1983/84-1986/87 When Robert Isaac made his full debut for Chelsea in a match at Watford in March 1985, it was a triumph over adversity for the gutsy 19-year-old who just five months earlier had been the innocent victim of a horrendous stabbing incident outside Millwall's stadium prior to a League Cup clash between the London rivals. Slashed from shoulder to waist, it was reported that only the thickness of his leather jacket saved his life, so it was with some pride that the Chelsea supporters welcomed him on board for the Vicarage Road clash, which the Blues won 3-1. A steady, reliable centre-half and occasional full-back, Robert did little wrong during his time in the Chelsea first-team, but was unfortunate to play for the club at a time when Colin Pates, Joe McLaughlin and, a little later, Steve Wicks, were all demonstrating their considerable talents at the heart of the defence. His three league appearances the following term came at home to illustrious opponents: Arsenal (a 2-1 win) and Manchester United (a 2-1 defeat), and in a 2-0 victory at Ipswich, and in all three games he demonstrated a cool head and no little talent as he dealt admirably with some of the country's premier strikers, but it wasn't until the following campaign that he was given anything resembling a run in the team. Returning to a rudderless side who were on a downward spiral courtesy of a pitiful management team and an outbreak of dissent from within the ranks, Robert's five consecutive league appearances in the late-autumn of 1986 resulted in three draws and two defeats, the last of which was a shambolic 4-0 home trouncing by Wimbledon. Wimbledon's cause was aided in no small part that day by Doug Rougvie, who was recklessly sent-off within the first ten minutes for head-butting John Fashanu, but as happened so often during John Hollins' managerial tenure, it was the inexperienced, young player who was made to suffer, and Robert was immediately dropped. Sadly, he failed to reappear in the first-team, and was eventually allowed to join Brighton and Hove Albion on a free-transfer in February 1987. (Kelvin Barker)

Pat Nevin at Vicarage Road in 1985. Chelsea won the game 3-1 with goals by Dixon, Speedie and an OG by person unknown. Full starting XI: Eddie Niedzwiecki, Keith Dublin, Bob Isaac, Nigel Spackman, John Bumstead, Mickey Thomas, Darren Wood, Pat Nevin, David Speedie, Kerry Dixon.

Probably. It depends whether you want to play just the movie, or if you want access to the DVD menu, which in turn depends on whichever software you install can play actual DVDs or just the MPG/VOBs. And then there's the matter of DVD extras to consider. If you're going to convert from DVD, then you can select "main movie only", otherwise you'll get the extras tagged on to the end. Probably. But for the question of whether or not you need to copy all of the VOBs... it depends.Bearing in mind that VOBs are numbered sequentially, a smaller VOB at the end is more likely to be part of the actual movie (and/or extras) than a tiny one at the start. You can test which ones you need by clicking on them from the laptop. Basically, if it plays, then you need to copy it.

.ifo are basically information files. If they're present then you've got the entire DVD. You generally got three or four large vobs that contain the actual movie, and smaller vobs that I think have something to do with the DVD structure. As for uncompression, if you've got any kind of compression software installed, from WinZip to WInRAR to jzip to 7zip to Haozip (very good Chinese freebie) then you should be able to right-click/Uncompress to. The process should work faster with uncompressed data, if nothing else. Also, some conversion programs seem to work better from an actual DVD rather than from data stored on the hard drive, so it might (and I did say might) be quicker and easier to burn the DVD to a DVD+W. But if it's working ok, then forget that one. Oh and call me Lofty. Everyone else does used to. I did actually request a change of username not to long ago, but sadly my request wasn't acknowledged. Funny that, huh.

First off, if the files are stored in zipped, i..e compressed folders, then it could help if you were to uncompress them first. To be honest, I couldn't remember the name of "Freemake" which is why I linked to the one I'd never tried. When I finally did remember, I went back to edit, but that time it was too late. When you say .VOBs, do you mean just the VOBs or the entire DVD inlcluding .IFO? Reason I ask this is that VOBs are just MPEG (MP2) files so if it's just the VOBs, then you might be able to get away with changing the extension to MPG or MPEG. No guarantee that it'll work, it depends entirely on your software player. I've found a ffew suggestions for VOB players, including RockPlayer Lite Wondershare Player MX Player With the above you may or may not need to change the extension, that I can't tell you. Or whether they'll play the entire DVD (once copied) including menu system. Try 'em and see!

I haven't tried this one, but it sounds good, and it's free: All Free DVD to MP4 Converter Alternatively, and very possibly a better option: Freemake Video Converter But if you do install Freemake, be careful - choose Advanced Options and deselect any "optional" extras which include a toolbar that you definitely do NOT want, and something called Outfox.tv. The same may well apply to the All Free program. If you decide on Freemake, you'll find more instructions here: How to rip your DVD collection for free

Still doesn't make it a proper rivalry. If that was the case, you could say that any set of fans who got battered up the North Stand, or any mob we ran out of their end (which was every other away game back in the second division) were one of our biggest rivals. Going back a few years, we had more... interaction... with Bristol (Rovers and City) fans than we ever did with Liverpool. That series of cup replays, for instance, but never in a month of Sundays could either of the Bristol clubs be considered one of our biggest rivals, which is after all, the titlle of the topic.

Spot on bazzablue. A proper rivallry has both on and off the pitch elements, and also needs be a two-way thing. How many Barcelona fans, when asked, are likely to cite Chelsea as among their biggest rivals? Despise them as miuch as you like, there's no way Barcelona can be classed as rivals. "Rivals for the Champions League", perhaps, but that alone is far too limited for them to be classes as proper rivals. Dislike, even hatred is one thing, rivalry is something else entirely. Rivalry also requires an element of traditional. Leeds, West Ham, Arsenal, Tottenham - these are all traditionally our rivals both on and off the pitch. And yes I know Leeds are currently nowhere, but among the older fans are memories of epic encounters.. both on and off the pitch. The same can be said for West Ham, Arsenal and Tottenham. Incidents that have passed into folklore. The same can't be said of QPR. We used to take over Loftus Road, nowadays they're a bunch of hissy little haters. Liverpool fans. They can't stand us, we can't stand them. No argument there. But there is no traditional rivalry. No stories of Liverpool fans trying to take the Shed, or being chased out of the Kop. Enmity yes, rivalry no.

To say that football will never take off in the US is a matter of opinion, valid enough, but maybe a little premature. Here's another article from the BBC, that very much comes down on the side of the "this is only the beginning" side of the debate concerning the future of football in the States: World Cup 2014: Why US will conquer world football Get used to this, world The United States did better than expected at this year's World Cup. But experts say that's just the beginning - bright times are ahead for the USA team. It was called the Group of Death - Team USA's seeding for the 2014 World Cup saw them up against tough competition, with many analysts predicting the Americans would get pummelled from the first kick-off. But they exceeded expectations by making it through to the knockout round, and losing 2-1 to Belgium in extra-time. Although they got further in 2002, reaching the last eight, this time the team's never-say-die spirit earned them plaudits from across the football world. Don't mistake this strong showing for a bit of dumb luck. Analysts say the US will be a serious competitor in future World Cup tournaments. There are three factors necessary for football success, according to 'Soccernomics: Why England Loses, Why Spain, Germany, and Brazil Win, and Why the US, Japan, Australia - and Even Iraq - Are Destined to Become the Kings of the World's Most Popular Sport'. Those factors are a big population, a strong economy, and a fervent fan base. For years, the US has had two out of three - a big population from which to draw top talent and the money to support a training infrastructure and elite football community. But with little interest from most Americans, talented athletes and top dollars went elsewhere. Players like Julian Green, who scored against Belgium, indicate a bright future In terms of football, the USA "was missing the know-how", says Simon Kuper, the book's co-author. "It was quite low, but it has risen very rapidly." And thanks to the following five factors, the US can count on rising football fortunes. 1. Development Until very recently, Team USA had a specific way for cultivating stars. "We would identify them at a young age and send them to a place called the residency program," says George Quraishi, founder and editor of the football magazine Howler. From ages 14-18, the players would live together, train together and play together. It was an expensive proposition, and a risky one. "It was basically saying we are going to place a bet on these players," says Quraishi, and stick with them throughout their careers. Now the US has a system more like Europe's. Promising youth play in development squads for Major League Soccer (MLS) teams, creating a dynamic, deep pool of talent. 2. Recruitment US coach Jurgen Klinsmann has made a big push to recruit American players raised in football-strong countries such as Germany. Jermaine Jones, who scored against Portugal, is one of those recruits, and has been singled out by Klinsmann for the professional edge he brings to the team - something he gained by competing at an elite level in Germany for years. Jermaine Jones (#23) is American by birth but German-trained "An American who lived in the US and developed here, likely went to college and was playing at a low level at the age of 22, when Jermaine Jones had been scrapping and playing against professional players since he was 16," says Quraishi. And due to the growth of MLS, America is producing more top talent. "In 2010 we had six players from our entire league competing in the World Cup, with four on the US team," says Dan Courtemanche, executive vice president of communications for Major League Soccer. "This year, we have 22 players in the World Cup, 10 competing for the US. 3. Demographics Demographers predict that by 2043, non-Hispanic white Americans will no longer be in the majority. Hispanic populations are on the rise, and with them the profile of football in the US. Shifting demographics have also increased the amount of football on display for US audiences. "US soccer is a large mosaic - people watch Mexican soccer or Salvadorian soccer. There are all sorts of things going on which the MLS is only one small part," says Kuper. Among the millennial generation in the US, "soccer" is the second-most popular sport, after US football and tied with basketball, according to Courtemanche. Among those even younger - 12-17 - baseball and soccer are tied in popularity. For some MLS teams, youth outreach starts for children 11 and younger. "The combination of millennial and immigrants bodes well for the future of soccer in our country," he says. 4. Experience World Cups are won by teams with a lot of World Cup experience - this isn't a competition that yields surprise victors. In Europe, good teams often don't make the cut - like Sweden this year - because they play in a more competitive qualifying group. Team USA, playing in the less-competitive Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football, doesn't have that same challenge. "We would have to mess up big time not to make it," says Quraishi. And every time Team USA plays, they increase their institutional knowledge. 5. Globalisation When he spent time in Los Angeles as a child, Kuper was practically cut off from the sport he loved. "There was one soccer programme on once a week showing old European games," he says. "It was very hard for a child living in the US 30 years ago to know what good soccer looked liked," Americans can now access football via satellite, the internet, and global travel. In 2014, "it's easy to follow Real Madrid and Manchester United," says Kuper, and with that, develop enthusiasm and understanding for how top football is played. While Team USA can always be counted on to be organised and technically skilled, they often lack creative spark. That flair for play develops at a young age after watching, re-watching, and imitating the great moves of favourite players. As Americans are exposed to good football more consistently, expect the next generation of professionals to not just know the game, but play it with style.

No actually. If I'd have written: "And you know where you can stick your pragmatism", then you may just have had the glimmer of a point. But "you know what you can do with your pragmatism"? Any 'rudeness' there is in your own mind. As I told you when you asked what I meant, the answer was: "whatever you want". If you want to take that away with you and make of if something to get offended about, that's your problem.

Well no. For years Wayne Rooney was touted as "The Great White Hope" (to use the old boxing phrase) of Englsh football. Many in the media were desperate for him to succeed, repeatedly describing him as a truly world class player, they'd have you believe that he was up there with the best. Now on his day, Wayne Rooney may be a very good player, but world class? Not on your life. Not in my opinion, hence massively overrated. To go back to your first post again. You quote me, and yet you address me with: The team the person supports. How dry, how impersonal can you get? in the same sentence you cite the "ire" aimed at Rooney. By whom exactly? Looking at the entire thread I see no sign of any anger whatsoever. You quote me again: Which is as clear an implicartion that you thought I was being "rude" as you could wish for, If you start dropping implications of rudeness, or of ire/anger where none exists, from that point on, it's very, very easy for things to blow up. And with that I'm out of it.

You don't? The answer, quite simply, is whatever you like. Following on from a request not to take things so seriously, I would have thought it was apparent that there was no unfriendliness inferred. I've got to be a little bit careful here, because this could easily blow up, and there really is no need. Your initial response struck me as so dry, and so unnecessarily serious in tone, that I thought a timely reminder not to take things so seriously was in order. I originally wrote "don't take me, or yourself so seriously," but edited that to read don't take "it" so seriously, thinking you might just take "or yourself" the wrong way. How ironic is that? I questioned your use of the word "ire" because of the implication that my post, the first one you quoted, was written angrily. Which to be perfectly honest with you, is just a little bit daft. If you want to talk about Wayne Rooney's positive qualities, then go ahead. But please don't tell me, or even imply that I shouldnt take the piss out of Wayne Rooney because to do so would not be "pragmatic", or to similarly imply that there is anything amiss with a lack of pragmatism. if you don't like the manner in which I or anyone else takes the piss out of Wayne Rooney or any other opposition player, then I suggest you ignore it, because it sure as hell ain't gonna to stop.

What ire? Don't take it so seriously. And you know what you can do with your pragmatism, don't you.

Rangers 1-1 Alloa RANGERS suffered a day of frustration at Ibrox as they dropped two crucial Championship points against Alloa Athletic for the second time this season. After a 1-1 draw at the Indodrill Stadium on September 20, the Wasps again stung Ally McCoist’s men as they put in a solid, disciplined display which frustrated the Light Blues for long spells. It was Lee McCulloch who opened the scoring in the 72 minute. Lewis Macleod’s deep corner arrived at the skipper who took a good touch before blasting a shot past Craig McDowall in Alloa’s goal. With Rangers controlling much of the second half that goal appeared to put the home side in a great position to claim an important victory but Alloa, in a rare attack after the break, netted a shock equaliser on 78 minutes. Steve Simonsen did well initially to deny Kevin Cawley with a terrific save but when the ball came back out to Liam Buchanan he fired it into the roof of the net to silence the stunned Ibrox faithful. The 1-1 result at the final whistle is one few would have predicted in the build-up to the game and Rangers will rue several missed chances throughout the contest. With just 51 seconds played they pushed forward with purpose but when Miller clipped a clever ball in behind Alloa’s defence and across the six-yard box there were no blue shirts there to take advantage. On five minutes McDowall then had to pick the ball out of his net. Steven Smith’s delivery, again from the left, found Nicky Law but while the midfielder finished well at the keeper’s near post the linesman in front of the Sandy Jardine Stand raised his flag with Smith receiving the ball in an offside position. Alloa then enjoyed a good early spell themselves and Simonsen had to be sharp to make a good diving save after Michael Doyle had fired a right-foot shot from 25 yards. On 16 minutes Kris Boyd was then guilty of missing a snip at the other end of the park. Law’s pass took a nick off a defender and the ball went straight through to Boyd who just had McDowall to beat. The visitor’s keeper, however, did well to deny the striker who, nine out of 10 times, would have scored from the same position. Before the half hour mark the game took a dip in quality with the atmosphere in the stadium going flat as a result. On 31 minutes, however, Rangers produced another good attack which should have resulted in the opening goal. Macleod fed the ball to Foster on the right and his cross looked to be perfect for Templeton who had found a space in the box. The winger’s header from 12 yards, however, went well wide of target in front of the Broomloan Stand. Alloa were starting to grow in confidence and Simonsen again did well to palm a shot around the post after Cawley came in from his right wing berth and tried his luck from distance. The visitors were doing all their manager would have asked pre-match, keeping it tight at the back and driving forward on the counter, and Barry Smith’s plan worked in the first half. With Liam Buchanan up front himself the other nine outfield players in goal and black hoops were sitting deep and soaking up the pressure, albeit Rangers were struggling to find their best form. It made for a frustrating opening 45 minutes for the Light Blues and they had to up there game in the second period or risk dropping crucial Championship points which, in the end, they did. After the break, however, it was marginally better from the League One champions as they exerted more pressure on the Wasps’ goal. On 46 minutes a drilled cross from Macleod had just too much power on it and Boyd could only head over. The youngster then cut in from the left in the next attack and his effort from the edge of the 18-yard box looked to be curling into the far corner but McDowall was there to tip the ball around the post. With the game still goalless, and Simonsen a virtual spectator, there was now increasing pressure on Rangers to break the deadlock and after 59 minutes McCoist made his first change with Daly replacing Boyd. The manager was then forced into a second substitution not long after with Seb Faure going on for Richard Foster who hobbled off the pitch with an injury. On 72 minutes the sense of relief around the ground was palpable as McCulloch slammed the ball into the net to make it 1-0. Macleod’s corner found Jig at the back post and after taking a touch he rifled a left foot drive into the net, giving McDowall no chance. Fans’ joy, however, soon turned to agony as Alloa levelled with 12 minutes remaining. Cawley’s low shot brought out a terrific save from Simonsen but Buchanan reacted quickest and the number 19 blasted the rebound into the roof of the net to make it an afternoon to remember for the small band of Alloa fans in the 29,458 crowd. RANGERS (4-4-2): Simonsen; Foster (Faure 64), McGregor, McCulloch, Smith; Macleod, Black, Law, Templeton (Clark 80); Boyd (Daly 59), Miller SUBS: Robinson, Shiels, Hutton, Hardie GOAL: McCulloch 72 BOOKINGS: Black ALLOA (4-1-4-1): McDowall; Doyle, Gordon, Meggatt, Marr; Docherty; Tiffoney, Simmons, McCord (Benedictus 90), Cawley; Buchanan (Ferns 84) SUBS: Gibson, Holmes, Hetherington, Asghar, Hynd GOAL: Buchanan 78 BOOKINGS: Meggatt, Simmons, Tiffoney REF: Greg Aitken ATT: 29,458

Team News: Smith And Mcleod Start ALLY MCCOIST has made one change to his starting eleven for this afternoon’s Championship clash against Alloa with Steven Smith taking the place of Lee Wallace at left back. The manager admitted in his press conference at Murray Park yesterday that Wallace was struggling with an injury and he will now miss this afternoon’s match against the Wasps with Smith making his seventh start of the campaign. Lewis Macleod is also in the Gers side after he was given permission by Gordon Strachan to leave the Scotland squad. That is undoubtedly a massive boost for the Light Blues and Macleod will now be hoping to add to the eight goals he has already scored this season, a tally which makes him Rangers’ joint top scorer along with Kris Boyd who has found the net the same number of times. With Steve Simonsen between the posts, a back four of Richard Foster, skipper Lee McCulloch, Darren McGregor and Steven Smith will be out to protect the big Englishman’s goal. In front of them is a midfield quartet of Templeton on the right, Nicky Law and Ian Black through the middle and Macleod on the left flank. Up top the in-form Kenny Miller joins Boyd. Rangers, of course, have now won their last eight games in a row, keeping seven clean sheets, and three more points this afternoon will keep the pressure on league leaders Hearts who take on Falkirk at Westfield at 5.30pm. On the Gers bench this afternoon are Lee Robinson, Seb Faure, Nicky Clark, Jon Daly, Dean Shiels, Kyle Hutton and 17-year-old Ryan Hardie. RANGERS: Simonsen; Foster, McGregor, McCulloch, Smith; Templeton, Black, Law, Macleod; Boyd, Miller SUBS: Robinson, Faure, Clark, Daly, Shiels, Hutton, Hardie

1969-1970 Squad: Standing: Marvin Hinton, Ian Hutchinson, Dave Webb, Tommy Hughes, Peter Bonetti, John Dempsey, Eddie McCreadie, John Hollins. Seated: Alan Birchinall, Charlie Cooke, Alan Hudson, Paddy Mulligan, Chopper Harris, Peter Houseman, Ossie, Tommy Baldwin, Johnny Boyle

Massively over-rated thick as two short planks granny shagging overweight scouse git with a hair transplant, One of these days Wayne Rooney may well have his very own W.A.C. thread.

Not as far as I know, but then I'm not as well informed as I'd like to be. Maybe some of the members with closer links to Rangers than myself could shed a little more light on the situation.

D- For tonight's homework, prepare a sentence or short paragraph containing the words "your" "you're" and "yore".

From Sky: Four Held Over Rangers Football Club Takeover The suspects were detained at addresses in England in an operation involving Thames Valley, Cheshire and Surrey police forces. our men have been arrested in connection with the takeover of Rangers Football Club in 2011. The men were detained on Friday morning by Scots police working with officers from three English forces. Police Scotland said the four were being held as part of a probe into the "alleged fraudulent acquisition" of the Glasgow club. The operation took place at a number of addresses in England and involved officers from the Thames Valley, Cheshire and Surrey forces. A Police Scotland spokesman said: "Following a Police Scotland operation on Friday November 14, four men have been detained as a result of the ongoing investigation into the alleged fraudulent acquisition of Rangers Football Club. "At around 6am, officers from Police Scotland, assisted by officers from Thames Valley, Cheshire Police and Surrey Police, attended a number of addresses in England and detained four men." According to the Daily Record, the four men detained are understood to be former Rangers administrators Paul Clark, David Whitehouse and David Grier and former Rangers director and solicitor Gary Withey. And in breaking news from the BBC: Police set to issue warrant for arrest of Craig Whyte Police are expected to issue an arrest warrant for former Rangers owner Craig Whyte following an investigation over the sale of the club in 2011. The development came after four men were detained in England. David Grier, Paul Clark and David Whitehouse worked for Duff and Phelps, who were Rangers' administrators. Gary Withey worked for law firm Collier Bristow, which represented Craig Whyte before he bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 in 2011. The four men are being questioned over allegations of utterance - signing legally binding documents and purporting to be someone you are not. All four were held during early morning raids at addresses across the UK in an operation that involved officers from Police Scotland, Surrey Police, Cheshire Police and Thames Valley Police. Police Scotland have been investigating the sale of Rangers from Sir David Murray to Craig Whyte for more than a year. 'Ongoing investigation' A spokesman for Police Scotland said: "Four men have been detained as a result of the ongoing investigation into the alleged fraudulent acquisition of Rangers Football Club. "Around 6am on Friday, Police Scotland officers, assisted by officers from Thames Valley Police, Cheshire Police and Surrey Police, attended a number of addresses in England and detained four men." Duff and Phelps spokesman Marty Dauer said the firm was aware that three employees in the UK had been "detained for questioning in connection with work performed for Rangers Football Club". He said this work "was commenced while these employees were part of MCR Partners, prior to its acquisition by Duff & Phelps in October of 2011". He added: "Duff & Phelps has performed an internal investigation and commissioned an independent investigation of the related matters. "As a result, we believe that our work for Rangers was conscientious, thorough and properly performed in every respect. "Duff and Phelps has actively co-operated with all relevant investigating authorities throughout this process." No wrongdoing Mr Dauer said a subsequent review by the Insolvency Practitioners Association in 2013 had "cleared the firm of any wrongdoing or conflict of interest" over its involvement with Rangers. Rangers manager Ally McCoist said: "Obviously I can't or wouldn't comment on a current police matter, but I would have to say I'm shocked. "Obviously I can't pre-judge what is going to happen. "Our concern has always been for the staff and supporters. What's happened to us in the last two-and-a-half, three years has been very tough, particularly on the staff and supporters. "We just want to continue with our attempts to get the club back to where we feel we belong." The development is the latest twist in a three-year saga involving Rangers. Mr Whyte bought Rangers from Sir David Murray for £1 in May 2011 and gave an undertaking to settle its £18m Lloyds Bank debt. It later emerged he paid the debt by selling three years of season tickets to finance firm Ticketus for £25m. Rangers entered administration on 14 February 2012, while under Mr Whyte's control, over non-payment of tax totalling about £14m. Mr Clark and Mr Whitehouse from Duff and Phelps were appointed as joint administrators. HMRC subsequently rejected a creditors agreement to allow Rangers to exit administration. That resulted in Charles Green's consortium taking control and Rangers being accepted to play in the Scottish Third Division. The administration of Rangers resulted in Mr Whyte's deal with Ticketus being declared void. The finance firm successfully sued him for £18m over the failed deal. Mr Whyte was later banned from being a company director for the maximum period of 15 years after a judge heard his conduct in dealing with Rangers was "shocking and reprehensible".