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Reports coming in that Jose refused his £40m payout. Incredible.

A while back, maybe a month or so ago, I made a comparison between Jose's situation and AVB's situation when he was here. I was chewed out for making a baseless comparison and now I feel vindicated. I take absolutely no joy from it do not get me wrong, but we as a club have to recognize that we have a serious f**king problem with player power and it is going to kill the club. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10102628/jose-mourinho-paid-the-price-for-losing-the-chelsea-dressing-room-says-graeme-souness http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10102771/jose-mourinho-sacked-for-discord-with-chelsea-squad When you have Michael Emenalo saying that the club had to part ways with Jose because there was 'Palpable Discord', fancy words for basically saying the players downed tools and refused to play for him, then it's pretty f**king obvious why he is now unemployed. Our players are an absolute f**king disgrace to the shirt and the badge. Watch them now MIRACULOUSLY rediscover their form of last season against Sunderland. If this happens, and I am pretty sure it will, I want to see our home support boo and jeer those f**king bar stewards off the pitch. I have a horrible feeling that Jose is going to end up at Manchester United and get revenge on the players, if they are still here beyond January.

Drop the entire first XI minus Tibo and Zouma. Start youth players.

Papers now saying that we're going to do a swap with Real Madrid in January. Eden Hazard for James Rodriguez.

Thanks mate. We really don't mind opposition fans on this forum, especially ones with this approach. I think that the Foxes will take our place in Europe next season. Be interesting if/when they do.

I said this a while back and people laughed at me and told me to shut the f**k up. I think this is the case and that history is repeating itself.

His time is up. It's clear he cannot turn this around. Mourinho is a manager who only brings short term success if there are funds and if the transfer market is favorable at the time, and for this he will never be remembered on the same level as Alex Ferguson or maybe even Arsene Wenger if he wins the league this season. Thanks for the memories but it's time to go, again, return to Portugal and put your feet up until the England job becomes available. Strangely enough I can see Mourinho thriving as England manager after Roy Hodgson as he will have the pick of England's best players for a squad where price is literally no object. Roman needs to go to Carlo, hat-in-hand, and ask him to return. I have far more faith in Carlo to build a strong squad for the future than I do Mourinho.

Something has to give. It's either the manager or the entire squad.

It sounds horrible to say but it would be somewhat poetic if Jose's second tenure with us ends at the hands of Porto. It's either Porto or Leicester that are going to do it, my money is on Porto. A loss here and elimination from the Champion's League in front of our home fans would without a shadow of a doubt push Roman and the board over the edge and put Jose out of his misery. Unfortunately, I can see just that happening. Chelsea 1-2 Porto.

Why do you refer to us in the third person? Way to commit a Freudian Slip. How you haven't been banned for trolling yet is beyond me.

What I find incredibly frustrating is that Chelsea fans have defended Mourinho's weaknesses, even at times to the point of delusion, but unless he does something to the contrary there will be no defending him from the stick that he only finds success in the short term at clubs with lots of money; because right now it's looking screamingly apparent. Bamford, Loftus-Cheek, Aina have all come through our academy but struggle to find games for some f**king insane reason and the less said about KDB and Lukaku the better.

1. If we cannot beat Bournemouth at home we are absolutely f**ked in the Champion's League. 2. No chance in hell, we're out of the Champion's League for at least a season. 3. This is actually our best chance, drop out of the CL and win the Europa. We'd also get another crack at the Super Cup we've failed to win twice as well. 4. No, we need to be in Europe in some capacity. The tailspin will get even worse otherwise. 4a. We won't. We need to dip into the academy and bring players through. Half of our current squad needs to get moved on to blunt the financial loss and academy products can take their place. If Jose still won't work with youth players then it's a damning edict of his failure as a long-term manager.

It's one of four things, or a mixture of four things causing the decay. 1. Something rather unpleasant and major has happened in Jose Mourinho's personal life and that has spilled over to his work, which has in-turn had an affect on the players. 2. Some of his players, I'm thinking Fabregas and Hazard, have lost faith in him and have gotten tired of his methods. They are tired of having to put in defensive contributions when our back line is ridiculously fragile as it is. 3. Mourinho and his players are extremely angry at the board's failure to address major squad problems over the summer by chasing pipe-dream targets and ending up with nobodies and burnt-out has-beens in the form of Dijibojijo (whatever...) and Falcao (who we all knew would be a colossal flop before he even showed up). As such they just cannot be bothered fighting another uphill struggle to win the league again. This has however tailspun into absurdity and we find ourselves as relegation fodder at the moment. 4. The fallout from the Eva saga runs deeper than we thought. I cannot help but feel the players loved our old medical staff for their professionalism and Mourinho blowing his top on the first day of the season really soured the mood and set the mood in stone.

It's a matter of hours until he's getting his P45 now I'm afraid.

Jose to start Fabregas and Ivanovic. Jose to leave Rahman and Loftus-Cheek out of the squad entirely. Jose to lose this game 0-2 after two goals down our right flank. Jose to get sacked an hour after the game. Just cannot be optimistic. I'm very sorry.

Looking forward to seeing Jurgen Klopp in the PL at last.

I think he's going to kick serious ass at Liverpool. Oh look, we're going to Anfield the week after we play Villa at home.

Well, the buck does stop with the manager. If it doesn't then the players have too much power and you have a time bomb waiting to go off in your squad. I'm not wrong. We only have assumptions and whispers to go on as clubs and players are so savvy with social media. The media in the UK have the nose of a bloodhound though, if they smell blood in the water there probably is some. I stand by what I said as well, he has lost the plot. Watch this again and tell me otherwise. Real Madrid have a worse sacking record than we do. In the past fifteen years they have had these managers. Vincente Del Bosque (1999 - 2003) Carlos Quierzo (2003 - 2004) Jose Camacho (2004) Mariano Remon (2004) Vanaderlei Luxemburgo (2004 - 2005) Juan Caro (2005 - 2006) Fabio Capello (2006 - 2007) Bernd Schuster (2007 - 2008) Jaunde Ramos (2008 - 2009) Manuel Pellegrini (2009 - 2010) Jose Mourinho (2010 - 2013) Carlo Ancelotti (2013 - 2015) Rafael Benitez (2015 - Present) That's thirteen managers in fifteen years. That's almost a manager per each season but those figures are skewed by the tenures of Quierzo, Camacho, and Remon. So really, it's a manager per every two seasons. The only managers that lasted more than two seasons were Del Bosque and Mourinho, and that is reflected in the titles they won. Ancelotti is the real shocker as he won the CL with Real Madrid but still got sacked, like us and Di Matteo.

True. There is no denying what Mourinho has done for us, during his previous tenure and his current one. However, how this season has panned out so far is ominously similar to his sacking in 2007. If he survives then I will gladly take hat in hand and admit I got it wrong. Until then the jury is out. This is where I think we're very thin on the ground. Terry is our only leader now that both Lampard and Drogba and he's on his last legs and spends a fair bit of time on the bench. Ivanovic does not strike me as a leader and his on-the-pitch examples are embarrassing if they are to be taken as an example for the likes of Zouma to follow. Cahill seems too timid to step up and Azpi seems too nice to kick arse when need-be. I think our only truly irreplaceable players are Hazard and Azpi, perhaps Costa and Oscar when they pick up a streak of good form. Matic just has not looked at the races and Fabregas doesn't seem bothered now that he has picked up his Premier League winner's medal. The less said about Ivanovic the better and the same goes for Cahill as he has a habit of vanishing at the worst times.

Even if the team has not lost form deliberately the buck ultimately stops with the manager. If he was bringing through the likes of Loftus Cheek, Solanke, Kenedy and Rahman we could all understand a dip in form as youth get blooded in the first team. This isn't the case however. He is playing the same side week-in-week-out and failing to address obvious problems. Assumptions is all people have to go on these days given how watertight social media is and given how most notable players get social media training. However, Jose seemed to completely forget that during the post match presser against Southampton. He came across as a person quickly losing the plot over something he has seemingly no control over. We have previous history of falling out with managers and players taking matters into their own hands, this was probably why Roman wanted to move Lampard/Drogba/JT all on in 2012. People will understandably start drawing comparisons with previous events and come to assumptive conclusions as to where this will end up.

True, no players have come out and said they're pissed at the manager. You almost never hear that from any club these days given the social media lockdowns common at clubs during tough spells (think us and the Matic saga last year). Actions, the lack of action in our case, speak louder than words however. You simply do not go from winning the league by the margin we did to being just above the relegation zone a few months later. It's almost as if we haven't had players who have played like sh*t to get a manager sacked after clearly falling out with him. Oh, wait... It's also almost as if we suddenly didn't do a complete 180 following this and achieve the near impossible out of nowhere.

You're going to have to do better than that. You cannot simply demean anyone who has a differing viewpoint to yourself. That just adds toxicity and gets everyone nowhere. Jose is a good manager, don't get me wrong, but he is not the second coming of Jesus. He did not survive falling out with key players at Real Madrid and he won't here either. The only manager in recent EPL history who could have gotten away with something like this and gotten stronger as a result is Alex Ferguson.

I'm afraid that the alternative is worse. If we can identify who it is who has fallen out with Jose, if it is just one or two players, then they can be shepherded on and we can try get back on track. This is exactly what Louis Van Gaal did as soon as he took over at Manchester United. I wouldn't be surprised if David Moyes gave him a list of names of the players who deliberately played like sh*t to get him the sack so that he wouldn't suffer the same fate. If it's just one or two players, it's fixable. However, our entire team looks like sh*t. That's what really worries me. It's either the entire squad or the manager.

He's now saying that 'if the players want me to go, I will go'. Clear as day he's lost the dressing room over the Eva saga and dropping JT. He's a goner, only a matter of time. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10018515/jose-mourinho-says-he-will-leave-chelsea-if-players-want We want someone else for long term success. It was a nice nostalgia trip Jose but it's time to go, for good this time.