yogic Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 We do not look equipped to win ANYTHING this season. I'm not sure a change in manager can turn our season around. CR to bring Juve here and knock us out? It's going to happen for sure. I don't have faith in LFS anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBosnian Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 This season... ALL FOCUS ON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE! And even that is a tough task. Forget about the league and just secure the spot in the top four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 If we 'forget about the league' you can be sure we won't get a top four spot. I think we are going to be lucky to get one if we are focused on it let alone if we aren't. I fully expect us to be 5 points behind Villa after we play them in a fortnight and if Arsenal win their next two games that will then leave them on the same number of points as us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Focus on the three competitions we are in, hope the players don't let the fans chants of Scolari out lead them to rest even more on their laurels knowing any lack of performance will be blamed on the manager and hope we start creating more chances now we have a player who looks at least like a winger. Hope that Scolari messes around in training with a 4-4-2 and it suddenly clicks, hope we find a settled strike force of Quaresma Drogba Anelka and Kalou or Stoch with Di Santo on the bench to come on if one of the main two is not performing. Hope the defence settles with Carvalho back and if we play less of the holding midfielder (Mikel was bad today) that Ferreira can come back in at RB to help that cause. Hope at some point we get a few refereeing decisions go our way (even if it's only when they really should) and that the players get a bit of confidence back. Hope that Roman is not getting bored with his plaything and that he gives Scolari (or if it carries on getting worse) a new Manager the cash to rebuild this squad and get rid of whoever seems like they are not trying or not good enough. that would do me for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibs Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 The league has been beyond us for some time. Looking at the quality of the teams left in the CL - well we can forget that too. We've been pretty lucky with the FA Cup draws up to now, so who knows - maybe it's our year for the trophy that used to be THE TROPHY OF EVERY BOYHOOD DREAM? I think a new coach appointed NOW, with fresh ideas and one who can clearly see which players aren't up to it and which are worth their place, could well kick start our season again. That and hopefully the return of a fit Essien. I'd be happy with an FA Cup run and 4th place right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 The league has been beyond us for some time. Looking at the quality of the teams left in the CL - well we can forget that too.We've been pretty lucky with the FA Cup draws up to now, so who knows - maybe it's our year for the trophy that used to be THE TROPHY OF EVERY BOYHOOD DREAM? I think a new coach appointed NOW, with fresh ideas and one who can clearly see which players aren't up to it and which are worth their place, could well kick start our season again. That and hopefully the return of a fit Essien. I'd be happy with an FA Cup run and 4th place right now. I'd love to see a new Chelsea manager with a different style of play to Mourinho, Grant and Scolari. The 4-3-3 system isn't going to work without good enough wingers and a Drogba-like striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarroll Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) I'd love to see a new Chelsea manager with a different style of play to Mourinho, Grant and Scolari. The 4-3-3 system isn't going to work without good enough wingers and a Drogba-like striker. Scolari has to go.I read on guillem balagues website after the United defeat that Roman approached Juande Ramos' representives sounding him out for the job in the summer seen as he's only on a short term deal till the summer at Madrid.I'd love to see Rijkaard with Gullit as his assistant.They would implement the Dutch system thats instilled in them of 4-3-3 with pacy wingers and a lethal hitman to spearhead the attack which rijkaard used to perfection in the champions league winning season. We Should play with this until the end of the season. Cech Ferreira Carvalho Terry A Cole Bosingwa Essien Lampard Quaresma Di Santo Anelka Edited February 7, 2009 by bcarroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnian_chels_support Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 If we change to 4-4-2, we might save something! Everyone knows and sees that this systen which we are playing now, is not the wininig one, so we need to change, like we changed the thin with the corners and a man on the post! I just dont want to imagine us beeing knocked out by Juve, and i can´t imagine us not to be in the top 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosnian_chels_support Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Scolari has to go.I read on guillem balagues website after the United defeat that Roman approached Juande Ramos' representives sounding him out for the job in the summer seen as he's only on a short term deal till the summer at Madrid.I'd love to see Rijkaard with Gullit as his assistant.They would implement the Dutch system thats instilled in them of 4-3-3 with pacy wingers and a lethal hitman to spearhead the attack which rijkaard used to perfection in the champions league winning season. We Should play with this until the end of the season. Cech Ferreira Carvalho Terry A Cole Bosingwa Essien Lampard Quaresma Di Santo Anelka Juande Ramos is not the right one, he hasnt done a good job at Tottenham, so why shuld he do good with us! 4-4-2 looks good, but i would like to see Ivanovic instead of Fereira! I think this is more than just possible formation for us! let s hope LFS gets an asskick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarroll Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Juande Ramos is not the right one, he hasnt done a good job at Tottenham, so why shuld he do good with us!4-4-2 looks good, but i would like to see Ivanovic instead of Fereira! I think this is more than just possible formation for us! let s hope LFS gets an asskick! I've posted the Juande Ramos article in the New managers section. See for yourself. You're right i would throw in ivanovic aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I called this quite a while back, if we can't break Premiership teams down, well, an Italian Job is well on the cards. Juventus will knock us out comfortably, a disaster, for i'm thinking we have to win it to get back in it, for Villa and Arsenal are serious threats to end our season and indeed chapter of Champions League football. We have no plan A let alone B or C. We are a shambles, a team painstakingly ageing and going backwards. As i've said before, the Chelsea job is impossible, interference rife and no financial backing from an owner once seemingly our saviour and a complete tit and incompetent bald headed pillock in Peter Manc Kenyon. Our future is with the youth in Stoch, Kakuta, Di Santo and Mancienne. I'd rather we were relegated, Ambromovitch pissed back off to where he came from and we built to rise again. It's clear the Russian isn't going to break the bank for the likes of Benzema and Ribery . Ok ive had a few glasses of red wine ... sorry but it's the way I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbzy Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I called this quite a while back, if we can't break Premiership teams down, well, an Italian Job is well on the cards.Juventus will knock us out comfortably, a disaster, for i'm thinking we have to win it to get back in it, for Villa and Arsenal are serious threats to end our season and indeed chapter of Champions League football. We have no plan A let alone B or C. We are a shambles, a team painstakingly ageing and going backwards. As i've said before, the Chelsea job is impossible, interference rife and no financial backing from an owner once seemingly our saviour and a complete tit and incompetent bald headed pillock in Peter Manc Kenyon. Our future is with the youth in Stoch, Kakuta, Di Santo and Mancienne. I'd rather we were relegated, Ambromovitch pissed back off to where he came from and we built to rise again. It's clear the Russian isn't going to break the bank for the likes of Benzema and Ribery . Ok ive had a few glasses of red wine ... sorry but it's the way I feel Spot on Star. A new manager is unlikely to change much under the current working conditions. Its like putting another captain on the titanic after it hit the ice berg. Even that courageous America pilot would have struggled to save any more folks ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Balague = an endless sh*t merchant. There is no way, with the managers that are unemployed out there, Roman went looking for Juande '2 point' Ramos Spot on Star. A new manager is unlikely to change much under the current working conditions. Its like putting another captain on the titanic after it hit the ice berg. Even that courageous America pilot would have struggled to save any more folks ;) Well said. We are asking someone to sip from a poisoned chalice. And no manager with sense is ever going to come in, see that setup where Kenyon tells you whatfor and negotiates for players and willingly accept an apparatus that has swallowed three managers, two for winning nothing and one for winning too much! Get rid of the deadwood on the squad. Replace them with some Tiagos and Jarosiks who are battlers, and get a gritty manager in. One that isnt spectacular but will build something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 At least we've got Mineiro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjd Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) This season... ALL FOCUS ON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE! Bearing in mind our results (and performances) against any half decent side this season the thought of us wining the Champions League is hillarious. Personally I think Raneri is going to turn us over. How much he will love that too, certainly that isnt going to help Scolaris cause. We need to concentrate on finishing fourth, ideally because of the new qualifications rules, third. But beggars cant be choosers and we are in no position to choose. Im hoping Villa may run out of steam (the match at Villa Park in two weeks is the match of our season by the way) and luckily for us Arsenal seem to have just as many (albeit different) problems as we do. Its going to be tight. If we cant beat a team in freefall at home like yesterday i have to say it doesnt look good. Was it only 8 months ago we took Utd to the title race on the last day and came within a coat of paint of winning the big one ? It could be a decade ago... The thing is, the squad is more or less the same. Yes we got rid of Carlo, Bridge, Shev, TBH and Sidwell. But none of those had any real say in anything we did last season. So basically, we have the same group of 15 players with the addition of Boswinga and Deco. Losing Essien was a blow but lets not make excuses. We should be stronger. What a hoot. The buck has to stop with Scolari. And it will, in May. Edited February 8, 2009 by bjd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbzy Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Bearing in mind our results (and performances) against any half decent side this season the thought of us wining the Champions League is hillarious.Personally I think Raneri is going to turn us over. How much he will love that too, certainly that isnt going to help Scolaris cause. We need to concentrate on finishing fourth, ideally because of the new qualifications rules, third. But beggars cant be choosers and we are in no position to choose. Im hoping Villa may run out of steam (the match at Villa Park in two weeks is the match of our season by the way) and luckily for us Arsenal seem to have just as many (albeit different) problems as we do. Its going to be tight. If we cant beat a team in freefall at home like yesterday i have to say it doesnt look good. Was it only 8 months ago we took Utd to the title race on the last day and came within a coat of paint of winning the big one ? It could be a decade ago... The thing is, the squad is more or less the same. Yes we got rid of Carlo, Bridge, Shev, TBH and Sidwell. But none of those had any real say in anything we did last season. So basically, we have the same group of 15 players with the addition of Boswinga and Deco. Losing Essien was a blow but lets not make excuses. We should be stronger. What a hoot. The buck has to stop with Scolari. And it will, in May. I won't be surprised if we end up getting turned over by 2 of our cast-offs: Rodgers and Ranieri. That would effectively end our season apart from the fight for 4th and would surely be the final straw for the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The pride of London Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I think the league is going to be hard to win this year. We dont look that good. We need to focuys on the Champions league but considering how bad we have been playoing winning that doesnt look to go either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoolguy22 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 We are the 'liverpool' this season, getting knocked out of the title race by Janunary, trying to pickup the bit and pieces in the Cup matches. The worry thing is we dont have a manager who has the tactical skills to match up in the Champions League. The FA cup is the most realistic one, considering the liverscums are out, Man United have more urget issues to deal with, and Arsenal is just Arsenal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Seery Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 This season so far has been a real dissapointment. For me if we reach the semi-finals of the Champions League, get fourth spot in the league and win the FA Cup I will consider that a successful season for the Blues, especially given the current situation that we are in. I feel that league wise we are in a fight with Arsenal for fourth spot. Thankfully we have a decent lead but not a strong one though. The next game at Villa Park is going to be cruical. If we only get a point from it I would take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 As things stand, and with the way we are playing, I would be happy if we get fourth spot in the league irrespective of how we do in the FA Cup and CL. I really don't understand this idea about forgetting about the league and concentrate on securing fourth spot. For us to secure fourth spot we need to be looking to win every game we play - this is exactly the same as we would be doing if we were focused on winning the title so I fail to see what the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Seery Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 As things stand, and with the way we are playing, I would be happy if we get fourth spot in the league irrespective of how we do in the FA Cup and CL.I really don't understand this idea about forgetting about the league and concentrate on securing fourth spot. For us to secure fourth spot we need to be looking to win every game we play - this is exactly the same as we would be doing if we were focused on winning the title so I fail to see what the difference is. I think the difference is that the expectations of Chelsea fans are that we cannot win the Premiership, especially with the form that Manchester United are showing at the moment. They do not look like they are going to concede goals and have sadly a great attacking line-up ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 That isn't a difference for me in terms of what is being discussed. The idea that we should forget about the league and concentrate on securing 4th spot suggests there are games we can afford to take less seriously or rest players for. There is no way in hell we can afford to take any league games less seriously if we want to secure a CL spot, we are bordering on falling out of the top four so we have to take every game seriously. Why is that any different to what we would be doing if we were making a title challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I won't be surprised if we end up getting turned over by 2 of our cast-offs: Rodgers and Ranieri. That would effectively end our season apart from the fight for 4th and would surely be the final straw for the board. This post really puts it all in perspective how poorly run things are at this club, and how little the men in suits deserve their pay. Two castoffs from this club have the possibility of ending our season across all competitive fixtures, for all intents and purposes. How funny that would be and if it was gonna happen it really couldnt get any funnier than that. Lets for a moment flash forward to a month from now. Juve have knocked us out of the CL, Watford out of the FA Cup. Zola and Clarkie have West Ham in the top half of the table on half the budget, and playing confidently for the first time in a long time. Jose has Inter at a gallop in Serie A, and has potentially knocked the defending champs out of the CL. And just for that little extra twist of the knife, Avram comes to Pompey and steers them to safety. And we are stuck with Scolari. Rejected managers and staff from the recent history of this club scattered throughout Europe, all having varying forms of success. And the club have really only themselves to blame, in their arrogance dealing with these men, and their pathetic riches to rags transfer policy. Looks like Peter Kenyon's "dream" will have to wait. Someone forgot to tell him and the others you actually have to be good in the first place for people to be a marketing hit. And right now, we are the definition of a lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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