flasher10 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Really pissed off about tonight. Would like to have seen us being given a penalty or two (or three) that we were entitled to. But we were not. Some of our players (yeah you Didier i am looking at you particularly) love to roll around on the grass and act like the last challenge from an opposing player is a career threatening outrage. Football is a mans game, sometimes it gets a bit physical - if you are a big hard lad that likes (and can be very successful) throwing your weight around terrorising defences, don't start rolling on the ground behaving like a pussy. You have a simple job, get in the box stay on your feet (as best you can) and score goals - your job description is "striker", and for that you get paid royally. Believe it or not M Drogba when you are focused on scoring you are one of the best in the world When you descend to play-acting a bullsh*t free manager will hook you, like what happened to you tonight. Spare us the dramatics after the final whistle, Didier - i reckon you were bullsh*tting tonight. That is why your manager pulled you off the pitch. I reckon that is why you were so upset at the final whistle - your manager suspected that you were bullsh*tting. You could have been more effective on the pitch during the game rather than throwing an eppy on the pitch after the game - what the f**k did you think that you were going to achieve after the final whistle you f**king plonker. Two attacking players (among others) that have my enduring respect, and undying admiration, are on the small side. They are Pat Nevin and Gianfranco Zola. They often got clattered - very often. Thing is that they got up (and didn't even waste time dusting themselves down) and got on with their job - no fuss, no crap and never let the opposition see that they had hurt them. Furthermore, by getting up quickly they were in a position to react to any ball that came their way and have a decent chance of putting it in the back of the net. Two true professionals were those wee lads - unlike certain large play actors. A few current players that i have the utmost respect for are JT, Frank Lampard. Michael Essien and Petr Cech - they don't fanny about, they get on with the game. You should have learned from them Didier - they are true men that represent our club with pride. If you had learned anything from them you might be in another final - and have had a chance to make up for your stupidity last year in Moscow. Herr Ballack, you are a fine player and you had a decent game tonight. But i have never seen you run so fast and so passionately, for Chelsea, until tonight about two minutes before the final whistle. The ref (who was shocking for sure) had made his mind up and he wasn't going to change it by having the Deutschland Kapitan chasing after him screaming in his ear (and come very close to having a manhandling charge against you). You ran the wrong way down the pitch son - the goal was behind you. That is the way you should have been directing your efforts at. No ref is going to change his mind if he has made a wrong call - it is a basic tenet of reffing, so don't waste your energy or breath trying to change his mind. Focus on the opposition goal - that is how to right the injustice - particularly if there are only 90 or so seconds to go. The ref was crap. But two very well paid (about £2,000,000 per month between them), experienced and high profile players blew it tonight. I suspect Guus Hiddink will be having a word about them to the board as to whether they should have their contracts extended. KTBFFH flasher10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Why so anti-Drogba? He said what we are all saying and had the guts to do so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasher10 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Why so anti Drogba? Because, he was giving it the "i am so f**king 'urt" routine and Hiddink either believed him and decided to replace him (to Drogba's clear annoyance) or Hiddink thought that Drogba was acting like a kid and had enough of his behaviour. Drogba was in a position to have some effect on the outcome of the match when he was on the pitch. A post match rant ain't gonna change the result - in fact it shows a lack of class. What's the ref gonna do? Anull the Barca goal? Whistle everybody back on the pitch and give us a retrospective penalty after the final whistle.? DD has pissed me off in the last year - since the final in Moscow. If he wasn't in the mood or feeling a bit sulky for certain games i could have lived with it on one condition. The condition that he didn't bother collecting his wages (over £100,000 per week) when he wasn't feeling that inclined to play. Don't misuderstand me, i have seen him play storming games where he is an attacking collossus and defends well too. Thing is though, true winners play like that regularly whatever their mood. Furthermore, his mouthing off about Chelsea does not endear him to me. If he had learned something from JT, Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Petr Cech about how to conduct himself on the pitch he would be a true Chelsea legend. Oh yeah, all that rolling around on the pitch really pisses me off too. Too much drama - i hate that crap. He has (had) all the attributes to be a true great, but he hasn't delivered wholeheartedly on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Afarkingmazing. We have a ref like that but........................... it was all Drogba's fault!!! Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy66 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Not Drogbas fault but he has done Chelsea no good here they will throw the book at us,we will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youlots Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Gee thanks for your slash in the pan, flasher, it's cheered us up no end. For you football/sport/life is seemingly all about deportment and mutely accepting injustice. Matter for you. However, for some one with a self styled and rather anarchistic credo "that the only good system is a soundsystem" your totally ill considered (and by itself, rather hysterical) diatribe against Drogs & Ballack for having the gall to express themselves or show any sort of high emotion in the face of such injustice is not only a tad disingenuous and hypocritical measured against your adopted philosophy don't you think? Alternative version: your a complete and utter wanniassa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecoolguy22 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 So emotion got the better of them, after all the injustice tonight, so what is the big deal? We all had out fair share of tantrum over smaller things. I would be seriously disturbed and disgusted if none of them showed any emotions, and just smile for the camera. Drogba is no saint, but he did no wrong tonight. Imagine he didn't do s** and just shook hand with referee and Barca players, there will be someone here complains about he just doesn't give a cr@p about Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Drogba was in a position to have some effect on the outcome of the match when he was on the pitch. A post match rant ain't gonna change the result - in fact it shows a lack of class. What's the ref gonna do? Anull the Barca goal? Whistle everybody back on the pitch and give us a retrospective penalty after the final whistle.? And there in lies the problem. His reaction was the same as all of us. He told the ref he was a f**king disgrace - which he was. He wasn't trying to get the result changed, he was letting the ref know that he had cheated us out of the match. Of course, in the cold light of day, it is a pointless thing to do but I for one am glad he did. At least it showed that he cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Didier Drogba la la la Didier Drogba la la la la la la Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Drogs didnt do himself any favours after the match last night but it was a reaction to chronic injustice. Do you think that if the ref had been half decent instead of a Uefa gimp with selective vision, Drogs would have acted the way he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3blu Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Good on Drogba for having the bo**ocks to say what he did, what we all felt. He may face a ban,a fine or whatever but good on him,he's willing to accept his punishment to get our point accross. Hiddink said the same after the game 'i stand by my players, they feel injustice and i cant blame them for their emotions because i feel the same' I too feel the same and i'm glad somebody stood in front of the camaras after the game and told the world how we feel. WELL DONE DROGBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moos Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Normally I don't condone players attacking the referee, but there are exceptions. Had last nights game been like a normal game where the ref is average and perhaps misses one penalty or so I would not have accepted Drogbas (or any other player for that matter) reaction. Sure, they can be mad about not making it to the final, but they should still control their emotions and accept that the ref is only human. But last night we saw what can only be described as a travesty. Apart from the, what, 4-5 times when there absolutely should have been penalties, we also had some other incidents where there might have been a penalty or two - incidents where the players surely felt robbed...again....and again....and again. So after the Chelsea players had played over 180 minutes of damn near perfect football against a team that has by some been labeled as the greatest team ever (load of bollocks if you ask me), then I really can understand the fury some of them must have felt when over the course of 96 minutes they've been completely screwed by the referee over and over again. So I fully condone Drogbas actions. I would have condoned him doing more even. Drogba is a player who is always full of emotions (perhaps more than any other player) and seing the way the ref did his job last night I am extremely surprised Drogba didn't do more than yell at him. I applaud Drogba for what he did. He expressed what we all felt. Chelsea were robbed (again) and the question that remains is who's truly to blame. Is it only Ovrebo or is there more involved. Is this a conspiracy or just really bad judgement from Uefa? Personally I don't know and at the moment I can hardly care. I'm just bereft of energy. All I can say is that I've lost some of the love for football that I used to have and I don't know if I can ever have respect for the referees again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) I can fully understand why Drogba did what he did, he wanted to tell the ref exactly what each one of us would have liked to say to him personally.The only thing is his actions have deflected the attention from a shockingly bad official and onto himself and Chelsea FC, we are now painted the bad guys in the incident by the media. No doubt there will be sanctions taken against Drogba and who knows we could in the extreme be thrown out of next years competition thus ending the 'big 4' domination of Europe like Platini wants. Edited May 7, 2009 by charierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well done Drogba for standing up and saying what EVERY football fan thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola's Love Child Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 More pissed off at Ballack than Drogba. Didier was right, and waited until the end of the game to protest to the referee, where Ballack did it whilst there was still a glimmer of hope we could get another goal. Either way though, it doesn't matter how much they are paid, they're humans. And surely representing the fans in an accurate manner is an important part of pulling on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I don't like Didier, but he was bang on the f**king money last night. The ref, the result were both a 'f**king disgrace', and anyone who climbs on a moral high horse about his behaviour must be a f*cking saint as I assume that this means they weren't screaming things a hell of a lot worse come the final whistle. I know I was turning the air blue and looking for things to break, and I very much doubt I was alone. Didier told the truth, nothing more. Didier and many of our older players had just been robbed of one of their last chances to win the one trophy they have not won, and I can only imagine how hard they must be taking it, as it's f**king killing me right now, and I don't see the pain fading for a long long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewartd7 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Drogba could have one us a penalty(SHOULD HAVE IN FACT) He also set up first goal with the flick on and messed there centre backs around At the end all he showed was passion and tonnes of it and for that im pleased that he shouted what we all felt Go on Didier!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola's Love Child Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I don't like Didier, but he was bang on the f**king money last night. The ref, the result were both a 'f**king disgrace', and anyone who climbs on a moral high horse about his behaviour must be a f*cking saint as I assume that this means they weren't screaming things a hell of a lot worse come the final whistle. I know I was turning the air blue and looking for things to break, and I very much doubt I was alone. Didier told the truth, nothing more.Didier and many of our older players had just been robbed of one of their last chances to win the one trophy they have not won, and I can only imagine how hard they must be taking it, as it's f**king killing me right now, and I don't see the pain fading for a long long time. Exactally. I've heard people making the argument that the likes of Ballack and Didier are older and should know better, but to me, they've had one of the last (if not the last) chances to get their hands on one of the biggest prizes in football, through no fault of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 my position on both of those is as follows- drogba rightly described the night as a "f*cking disgrace". he's absolutely right and though I've been critical in the past and though he didn't have a great game, I can't fault his workrate or his anger. ballack appealed aggressively but nothing more- he saw the eto'o handball clearly, and we were well beyond the added time given. it was the absolute, very last throw of the dice, and I commend him and the other nine on the pitch, and all on the bench for not exploding with anger until the game was truly over. you have to remember one other thing- time is running out for these players, if it isn't up already. and they were robbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasher10 Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 I have no arguments about the crap reffing - two definite penalties, two possible penalties and a long shot appeal. I was livid last night, i have calmed down a bit now. But i still reckon that Drogba was acting more injured than he was when Hiddink pulled him off - either Hiddink thought that he was injured or he had seen enough. Drogba didn't look too happy when he was subbed. If he was injured, then i take back most of what i said. Once he was off the pitch there was bugger all he could do to change the match. Throwing a fit after the match wasn't going to change anything. All it did was deflect attention from a totally useless ref and will give UEFA some cover (The disciplinary process to deal with Drogba means that UEFA won't have to answer for the reffing performance). If Drogba had stayed on the pitch he might have got us a goal, 'cos there was no way in hell that the ref was going to give us a penalty. Ballack lost it in the final minute of the game, he was way too near the ref when he chased him. That could have been a manhandling charge against him. My first objection is that refs (however crap) should not have to put up with that. Secondly, Ballack wasn't focused on the game and trying to get a goal back, even if there was only a minute or so to go. I know that the players are only human, and that injustice can drive anybody crazy. We shout and swear when we are watching a game because there isn't much we can do to affect what goes on on the pitch. The players on the pitch can affect the game, ideally by setting up or scoring a goal. We played excellently last night and didn't give Barca chances. We ended up a goal short, the ref wasn't gonna help us by giving us a penalty (or more) - another goal scored by our efforts would have been useful (mind you, i wonder if the ref would have disallowed it?). I am proud of the way we played last night, the ref ruined it though. If we are going to win the Champions League we are going to have to come back stronger, better, smarter and learn from what happened last night (and other nights). We are just going to have to box cleverer, directed fury works better than total rage and blind lashing out. I wasn't saying that Drogba's and Ballack's behaviour was what cost us the match - it is obvious who cost us the match. That said, their behaviour did not help our cause. The result was an injustice, as to why it was an injustice....we are unlikely to get answers for that. But UEFA got the final that they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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