ShedEnder46 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I was having a conversation with one of my mates at the pub and his mate's a Leicester fan and we were talking about their chances of coming up next season and the rivalry we had for them in the 70s and 80s and wondered if it would be a slightly spicier fixture next season should they win promotion?I've asked a few fans and its quite evenly split between "don't mind them at all - over it", "still don't like them" and "don't know what you're on about"What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseablueboy Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think that's a Leicester fans wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 they get included in a song what more do they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcblue Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think we've all moved on? The Leicester rivalry was born out of the hooliganism years when CFC took the piss up there for so many years before ... Leicester finally got there act together, of sorts (without ever showing at the Bridge). Those days are 'long gone' in the minds of most ... Personally, I think that's a good thing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think we've all moved on? The Leicester rivalry was born out of the hooliganism years when CFC took the piss up there for so many years before ... Leicester finally got there act together, of sorts (without ever showing at the Bridge). Those days are 'long gone' in the minds of most ... Personally, I think that's a good thing ... True. Personally want them to come up. I was surprised with the amount of my Chelsea mates who didn't like them because of it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcblue Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think rivalry that exists today would include ... 1) Spurs 2) Liverpool 3) West Ham 4) Leeds 5) Millwall (should we ever play them, again) I'm 100% sure others may think differently tho' ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think rivalry that exists today would include ... 1) Spurs 2) Liverpool 3) West Ham 4) Leeds 5) Millwall (should we ever play them, again) I'm 100% sure others may think differently tho' ... I'd say Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I went to Leicester many times in the 70's and early 80's, and never rated them as a mob, much less a rival mob. As cfcblue says, Leicester never once brought a mob to the Bridge, they were a bunch of w*nkers really, on a par with the likes of Coventry or West Brom. The only reason I can think that they reckon they're our rivals is the fact they're mentioned in one of our songs - which had nothing to do with their club, more to do with a motorway sign. Wannabee midland w*nkers, they were bad enough when they were the Leicester Kop, but when they changed their name to the 'Baby Squad' they were just laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celery1989 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I went to Leicester many times in the 70's and early 80's, and never rated them as a mob, much less a rival mob. As cfcblue says, Leicester never once brought a mob to the Bridge, they were a bunch of w*nkers really, on a par with the likes of Coventry or West Brom. The only reason I can think that they reckon they're our rivals is the fact they're mentioned in one of our songs - which had nothing to do with their club, more to do with a motorway sign. Wannabee midland w*nkers, they were bad enough when they were the Leicester Kop, but when they changed their name to the 'Baby Squad' they were just laughable. Could you explain that a little more mate? Have always wondered what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin83 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Could you explain that a little more mate? Have always wondered what it means. I was going to ask the same question, I have a vaigue recollection of a version of the story but would like to here a 'confirmed' story from someone in the know. I also have to wonder why Arsenal have also adopted the 'and Leicester' bit to their version of the song- did they just copy our song and maintain that bit without knowing why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELLY Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) I seem to recollect us singing, "We hate Nottingham Forest, We hate Arsenal too (and Leicester) We hate West Ham united, but Chelsea we love you..." When we changed it to over land and sea we kept the and Leicester bit, I was only a kid when the original got sung, but I always assumed it was a bit of a p*ss take, directed at Leicester, because they were such a bunch of mugs... Bluebeards motorway sign explanation makes more sense though... Edited February 22, 2013 by SHELLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckham Blue Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I went to Leicester many times in the 70's and early 80's, and never rated them as a mob, much less a rival mob. As cfcblue says, Leicester never once brought a mob to the Bridge, they were a bunch of w*nkers really, on a par with the likes of Coventry or West Brom. The only reason I can think that they reckon they're our rivals is the fact they're mentioned in one of our songs - which had nothing to do with their club, more to do with a motorway sign. Wannabee midland w*nkers, they were bad enough when they were the Leicester Kop, but when they changed their name to the 'Baby Squad' they were just laughable. Boxing Day 1979 they surprised us and actually turned up for once. It kicked off in the NS when a load of Chelsea transferred from the benches to the front of the bit closest to us, started singing Leicester songs and then got escorted by the old bill into the away fans. We were pissing ourselves that OB could be so stupid. Anyway a mass brawl happened the minute they got in there, Leicester knew what was going on. Afterwards it all kicked off again on the bit of wasteland at the bottom of Imperial Road where they parked the coaches after our mingled into their escort. I have to admit they gave a good account of themselves that day, bigger and better firms would have run and I believe they still sing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Boxing Day 1979 they surprised us and actually turned up for once. It kicked off in the NS when a load of Chelsea transferred from the benches to the front of the bit closest to us, started singing Leicester songs and then got escorted by the old bill into the away fans. We were pissing ourselves that OB could be so stupid. Anyway a mass brawl happened the minute they got in there, Leicester knew what was going on. Afterwards it all kicked off again on the bit of wasteland at the bottom of Imperial Road where they parked the coaches after our mingled into their escort. I have to admit they gave a good account of themselves that day, bigger and better firms would have run and I believe they still sing about it. Think we're mentioned in their version of the 'Hark Now Hear' chant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Hateley Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 They never even turned up when Erland fell over for that penalty, and they have been bitter over that ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Boxing Day 1979 they surprised us and actually turned up for once. It kicked off in the NS when a load of Chelsea transferred from the benches to the front of the bit closest to us, started singing Leicester songs and then got escorted by the old bill into the away fans. We were pissing ourselves that OB could be so stupid. Anyway a mass brawl happened the minute they got in there, Leicester knew what was going on. Afterwards it all kicked off again on the bit of wasteland at the bottom of Imperial Road where they parked the coaches after our mingled into their escort. I have to admit they gave a good account of themselves that day, bigger and better firms would have run and I believe they still sing about it. Weird, I don't remember that though I'm sure I would have been there. Mind you, there are so many games that I can't remember that I'm not surprised - beer has a nasty habit of closing down the memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The "and Leicester" story was that a coach load of Chelsea were heading up the M1 singing "We hate Nottingham Forest" just as they went past the sign for the Leicester turn off, and it just got added on after the "We hate Arsenal too" bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 There's actually a bit more to that Bluebeard in that there used to be a sign on the motorway which said "The North and Leicester". The rest as they say is hostory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV2 Blue Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think a full explanation is given in one of Martin King's books... I can't remember whether it was "Hoolifan" or "The Naughty Nineties" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishman Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Here is the explanation given in Rick Glanvill's Official Chelsea Biography: '"..and Leicester" comes from about 1965 or 66," claims Garrison. "There was a Combination game on a Friday night, a reserve match. There were about 70 of us; any excuse to have a go at Leicester really. We turned up there and it was absolutely pissing down with rain. We had a go at them and we got drenched. The police wouldn't let us into the train station until the train came. The next day it was a home match at Stamford Bridge and everybody sang "We hate Nottingham Forest..." and then my lot just shouted out "and Leicester" to say, like, "We bloody went up there!" But it stuck for a few games and then it died out and then in the 1980s it started up again.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Possibly, geezer, there are so many explanations though that it's difficult to find the original one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin83 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I heard the same story as geezer I must say. What I don't get is why arsenal fans also sing the 'and Leicester' bit? Did they just copy the song and forget to edit that bit of Chelsea banter out?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 I heard the same story as geezer I must say. What I don't get is why arsenal fans also sing the 'and Leicester' bit? Did they just copy the song and forget to edit that bit of Chelsea banter out?! I thought it was to do with Boxing Day in the 70s? Nothing to do with Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I heard the same story as geezer I must say. What I don't get is why arsenal fans also sing the 'and Leicester' bit? Did they just copy the song and forget to edit that bit of Chelsea banter out?! We innovate the rest copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 We innovate the rest copy Haha! That's not like Arsenal! To be honest, I think I'd be more excited about playing Leicester than the other anonymous mid-table prem clubs next season but don't know if I'd call them 'rivals'. Just a slightly spicier fixture than most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedEnder46 Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Caught wind of this thread. They obviously still have a rivalry with us. http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/74166-the-do-they-mean-us-thread/page__st__1040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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