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ShedEnder91

ShedEnder91

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Lance Armstrong and other cyclists are an example of them knowingly letting dopers off. If it weren't for whistle blowers in his personal circle, Lance Armstrong would still not have been exposed despite WADA knowing. Justin Gatlin is actually an example of them banning a little known athlete (he was little known at the time) for an innocuous substance that he had a valid prescription (not a retroactive one) for. I'm somewhat familiar with the case through inside personal experience and interactions.

 

So Justin Gatlin was a 'little known athlete' in 2006 when he was banned for four years? 

 

Wasn't he the Olympic Gold medalist and World Record holder? I'm probably not as familiar with the case as you so if I'm wrong you'll understand why.



offside

offside

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So Justin Gatlin was a 'little known athlete' in 2006 when he was banned for four years?

Wasn't he the Olympic Gold medalist and World Record holder? I'm probably not as familiar with the case as you so if I'm wrong you'll understand why.

He was banned years before that when he was a juvenile. I'm not so familiar with his later ban, but I'm familiar with the circumstances and details around his first ban. It was a innocuous case where his doctor deserves most of the blame.

Believe me, if he was Olympic champion Justin Gatlin at the time rather than unknown teenager Justin Gatlin, they would have turned a blind eye. The year before a well known runner doped but was allowed to continue, and it's never been made public. Gatlin's second offense was too blatant to ignore especially due to legal threats from those he beat.

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dkw

dkw

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It's certainly going to be interesting to see how the media handle this, one if their darling clubs been found to have a drugs cheat player.



Englishman

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Here''s a real drugs test failure. It doesn't feature Chelsea so the media will be lessgleeful than they would be if it did. I wonder if the Liverpool Dortmund result will be forever tarnished?http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36120459

 

If he is found guilty, surely it invalidates the result and they get kicked out of the competition, which would be the case had they fielded an ineligible player.

Backbiter

Backbiter

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If he is found guilty, surely it invalidates the result and they get kicked out of the competition, which would be the case had they fielded an ineligible player.

Unfortunately not. This happened to Wales, when they lost to Russia in a Euro 2004 playoff. A Russian player tested positive so Wales tried to get the result overturned, but the Court of Arbitration refused. So Liverpool will be allowed to progress despite one of their goal scorers being a drug cheat (allegedly, at this stage, of course).

 

Titov ban

The FAW submitted its appeal to UEFA on the grounds that Russia midfield player Yegor Titov was ineligible to play as a result of his positive doping test after the first leg in Moscow. Titov is now serving a 12-month worldwide ban after testing positive for the banned substance bromantan, which means he will miss EURO 2004™. Russia scored the only goal of the tie in Cardiff to qualify for the finals in Portugal this summer.

CAS statement

"Contrary to the opinion of the FAW, the panel has considered that the Football Union of Russia could not be assimilated to an 'accomplice or abettor' of [...] Titov under the terms of the UEFA disciplinary regulations and consequently could not be sanctioned," said CAS in a statement.

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dkw

dkw

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Not seen too much of this in the press, dare I say if it were anyone but Liverpool...

It's being downplayed as expected, still I expect after the b sample shows he has been caught bang to rights the media will be all over it.......yeah right. What will happen is they will use it to create a narrative to blame all clubs saying other players definitely do it they just weren't unlucky enough to be caught.

Orpington_Blue

Orpington_Blue

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Oddly enough I noticed how sakho ran towards toure (on the bench) to celebrate his goal recently (think it was vs dortmund).

 

Made me think what could toure have done for him. And theres the your answer, toure is his feckin dealer.  :biggrin: 



undertow

undertow

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It's being downplayed as expected, still I expect after the b sample shows he has been caught bang to rights the media will be all over it.......yeah right. What will happen is they will use it to create a narrative to blame all clubs saying other players definitely do it they just weren't unlucky enough to be caught.

 

I'm surprised it's not Chelsea's fault somehow. Maybe JT blackmailed him? "Take that drug or I'll blueblur your wife!"

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Zola

Zola

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Ademi perhaps was taking something stronger, steroid based, which would justify a 4 year ban, probably.

Personal opinion, I don't think a fat burner should be on the banned list unless it contains some type of amphetamine, steroid or something!

After all, caffeine is a performance enhancing drug! Why is it not banned?

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Backbiter

Backbiter

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I'm not an expert, but I've read that fat burners can be used as masking agents, so he might have been taking a more powerful stimulant. I haven't read that he's facing a ban of four years. More like 6 months seems to be expected.



dkw

dkw

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Ademi perhaps was taking something stronger, steroid based, which would justify a 4 year ban, probably.

Personal opinion, I don't think a fat burner should be on the banned list unless it contains some type of amphetamine, steroid or something!

After all, caffeine is a performance enhancing drug! Why is it not banned?

Fat burners are a known masking agent, which is why they are punished.
Zola

Zola

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Is that from all football or just UEFA events?

I.e. are the premier league likely to suspend separately ?



offside

offside

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There's no way Sakho only started to take these drugs in the past week. Almost certainly he's been taking them for a while, and he either wasn't tested enough or tested positive but it was covered up. More likely the former scenario. Because of the doping headlines, there has probably been more testing in the last few weeks.

And there is no way he's the only one doing it.

I'm curious to know what the precise substance was. I'm surprised it hasn't been revealed. "Fat burner" isn't a class of drugs. If there were a drug specifically to burn fat, it would be the top selling drug in the world. I sure could use some :laugh2:

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