20 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

23 million pathetic snowflakes.

Not as snow flakey as their FA trying to sue people on twitter and their fans petitioning for a replayed final while their players and fans cry and fight LOL

3 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Are you comparing opening a door to physically attacking thousands of people in violent premeditated attacks?

You think that the Wembley disorder was just a door being opened? 😂

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

A poll to remove a national team from future tournaments because you don't like them is proper woke nonsense.

Twitter is a hive mind of disingenuity. I remember there was a picture on X doing the rounds of Messi stepping on Spence just before Argentina's winner. For days, the masses used this to further concoct the rigged narrative, only for it to be proven that the photo was photoshopped and Messi actually jumped over Spence. But by that time, it was too late, and the damage was already done. Just fueled more fire to the whole rigged nonsense.

Sconnie, the poll is nonsense , you're correct. . But it's nothing to do with being "woke" mate, it's just nonsense 😂

3 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Are you comparing opening a door to physically attacking thousands of people in violent premeditated attacks?

You think that the Wembley disorder was just a door being opened? 😂

7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

A poll to remove a national team from future tournaments because you don't like them is proper woke nonsense.

Twitter is a hive mind of disingenuity. I remember there was a picture on X doing the rounds of Messi stepping on Spence just before Argentina's winner. For days, the masses used this to further concoct the rigged narrative, only for it to be proven that the photo was photoshopped and Messi actually jumped over Spence. But by that time, it was too late, and the damage was already done. Just fueled more fire to the whole rigged nonsense.

Sconnie, the poll is nonsense , you're correct. . But it's nothing to do with being "woke" mate, it's just nonsense 😂

18 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Our fans ... after losing semi final to Germany at Wembley 1996

THE NIGHTMARE scenario all England dreaded came true last night as rioting football fans clashed violently with police in Trafalgar Square in the heart of London. By midnight there were reports from police across England that trouble was spreading rapidly.

Violence erupted shortly after the final penalty signalled England's defeat by Germany in the semi-final of the European championships.

In the capital hundreds of football hooligans took to the streets, burning vehicles, and leaving motorists cowering in their cars as they walked over them, kicking doors and spitting on windscreens.

Every ambulance in the city had been called out, said the London Ambulance Service, ``they are just dropping people off at hospitals and then going back out again,'' added a spokeswoman.

1996 PMSL

See:

3 hours ago, All Barco no bite said:

'history'. We also did slavery until we realised it was bad and stamped it out across the globe. People do bad things, taking responsibility for them is another issue.

The fan favourite past time was rightly stamped out and villainised by the media, FA and country in general. As you can see, its encouraged by all aspects of Argentina and blame pushed elsewhere.

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

You think that the Wembley disorder was just a door being opened? 😂

They quite literally opened a door.

3 hours ago, All Barco no bite said:

'history'. We also did slavery until we realised it was bad and stamped it out across the globe. People do bad things, taking responsibility for them is another issue.

The fan favourite past time was rightly stamped out and villainised by the media, FA and country in general. As you can see, its encouraged by all aspects of Argentina and blame pushed elsewhere.

It certainly has NOT been stamped out. You'will no doubt see a massive return in the next Euros , with the usual nonsense going on during League games too.

3 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

They quite literally opened a door.

3 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

They quite literally opened a door.

3 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

They quite literally opened a door.

And that was it, nothing else?? 😂

1 minute ago, The Rising Sun said:

And that was it, nothing else?? 😂

I'm fairly sure a firework and an arsehole was involved somehow too

5 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

It certainly has NOT been stamped out. You'will no doubt see a massive return in the next Euros , with the usual nonsense going on during League games too.

Yes it has. You get slapped with a FBO for the smallest of things in England.

4 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

And that was it, nothing else?? 😂

Yes

55 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I'm fairly sure a firework and an arsehole was involved somehow too

Err...sorry thst was me, it is my standard party trick. I normally do it to Rocketman

55 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

Yes it has. You get slapped with a FBO for the smallest of things in England.

FBO aren't relevant to people who have no intention of ever paying for a ticket.

2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

FBO aren't relevant to people who have no intention of ever paying for a ticket.

It is relevant to fighting at grounds and mob violence, which is what the reply was to.

8 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

It is relevant to fighting at grounds and mob violence, which is what the reply was to.

Most of the fights that happened in the Euro 2020 final (which by the way, far far far exceeded the number of fights seen inside the New York stadium for the world cup final) were by people who did not buy a ticket and probably never intend to buy a ticket.

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1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Most of the fights that happened in the Euro 2020 final (which by the way, far far far exceeded the number of fights seen inside the New York stadium for the world cup final) were by people who did not buy a ticket and probably never intend to buy a ticket.

Any evidence to back that up or are you just believing what you see on X?

21 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

Any evidence to back that up or are you just believing what you see on X?

Which part of my statement would you like me to prove? I can get reputable news articles reporting on what I said. It's widely understood as facts what I said, there was even a documentary about the final on Netflix.

Argentinian fans have a dust up every week with each other and the police.

Game days today in Buenos Aires are similar to English games in the 80’s and 90’s. What happened after they lost the other night happens most weeks. I know away fans are banned from high risk games due to the trouble.

Hooligan ringleaders there are often connected to the clubs and/or to authority which makes it more difficult to stop. There is very little political will to take these people on.

Culturally the English hooligans of 40 years ago and today’s Argentinian hooligans are quite similar and similar comparisons can be made of the Balkan hooligans of the 2000’s for instance

There is an excellent book on the subject. The name eludes me at the moment. I’ll look it out later and post the author and title for anyone interested.

But Argentina is a great place with good people in general just as England was in the 90’s. What happened during and after the final isn’t a reflection of their general society.