36 minutes ago, Whats_The_Mata? said:

But players like Mudryk and Madueke don't have the potential to ever be good enough to win titles. They don't have the potential to be as good as Werner or Mount so it was a mistake selling them because they currently walk into our team.

I’d wager both would have become great playing in Pep’s City. 
 

And therein lies the problem. We ruin players and/or are not able to get to their potential. Add to that absolutely no supporter patience and there is not going to be many success stories from the transfer market.
 

Darwin Nunez is on fire at the moment. Chelsea supporters would have run him out of town with pitchforks after last season. There is no way he would have his redemption arc in this club.

4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

I would say at least 20 of those were bought with the intention of them being starters rather than squad players.

Most clubs have more misses than hits when it comes to buying players, but us and Man United have been particularly bad in recent times.  Some of Clearlake's signings will work out, and some won't.  I'd imagine the percentage hit/miss will be similar to what we saw in the Roman era.

The players mentioned I honestly have no problem selling them on. Our problem is though we have staked everything on the long shot of potential. This is an extremely risky strategy and goes against everything we all know having followed football for decades. A more balanced approach of a few 25/28 year olds with proven PL status would have helped smooth the transition and aid the young inexperienced development. Maybe and I really hope it happens we will look back in 3/4 years in relief that we have transitioned into a top team, I do though suspect it will take the acquisition of a couple of seasoned pro’s to see us through this period. It is unlikely we would get relegated purely on the basis that there are worse teams than us, the confidence hit though on the young charges could be considerable if we can’t turn this slump around. I certainly wouldn’t be changing the manager at this point, he has a massive job on his hands and I’m not convinced anybody else could get a better tune out of what he has been dealt. 

1 hour ago, charierre said:

The players mentioned I honestly have no problem selling them on. Our problem is though we have staked everything on the long shot of potential. This is an extremely risky strategy and goes against everything we all know having followed football for decades. A more balanced approach of a few 25/28 year olds with proven PL status would have helped smooth the transition and aid the young inexperienced development. Maybe and I really hope it happens we will look back in 3/4 years in relief that we have transitioned into a top team, I do though suspect it will take the acquisition of a couple of seasoned pro’s to see us through this period. It is unlikely we would get relegated purely on the basis that there are worse teams than us, the confidence hit though on the young charges could be considerable if we can’t turn this slump around. I certainly wouldn’t be changing the manager at this point, he has a massive job on his hands and I’m not convinced anybody else could get a better tune out of what he has been dealt. 

As we have seen over the course of the last year, a change of manager is more likely to lead to further disruption and poor form if anything. Also I wouldn't trust the owners to do any better with a new choice of manager.

I would far rather see our young players given their head and allowed an all out fast attack approach, yes you can get bitten on the counter, and probably will be outscored in some games. But the confidence it could build actually scoring goals would rapidly speed up the gelling process. We have a lot of talent at our disposal, but it is being smothered by being too defensively minded. get them flowing in attack, then work on the defence. Pre season was mostly one and two touch football., moving it very quickly, not this turgid don't lose the ball at all costs we've been fed for so long now. They have to make mistakes to learn from them, unfortunately they are not a few in amongst experience, they are learning together.

We need to win the ball and go hell for leather to get at their goal, BEFORE their defence is back in position. I've always said possesion means F$%£ ALL, it's what you do with that which you have.

On 24/09/2023 at 14:54, Drogba1 said:

Did Graham Potter just get a hair do and change his name?

I can't believe people are STILL blaming Potter lol!!!

W'eve won TWO Premier League games since he was sacked!! TWO!!  at least he had us 8th...........if anything he was a bloody genius! lol

If our last 35 games were all in one season we WOULD have been relegated.

How long before the 'sack Potter' brigade start the same again with Pochettino I wonder?

 

 

On 24/09/2023 at 09:58, Drogba1 said:

At least we beat Luton

Never forget we topped the Hatters.

 

18 hours ago, Cfc91 said:

I’d wager both would have become great playing in Pep’s City. 
 

And therein lies the problem. We ruin players and/or are not able to get to their potential. Add to that absolutely no supporter patience and there is not going to be many success stories from the transfer market.
 

Darwin Nunez is on fire at the moment. Chelsea supporters would have run him out of town with pitchforks after last season. There is no way he would have his redemption arc in this club.

You imagine the names he mentioned, comparing Mudryk, a player who is close to Hazard, the way he plays, and Madueke, a frightening player who is compared with Arjen Robben, you are comparing them to Werner, a player who arrived in Chelsea and had only two good matches, and turned to a useless striker.

Mount who is in United now and is not rated at all, a player who only came to Chelsea when we had a transfer ban and needed an attacking midfielder. He was brought from the academy or Derby County just to be in the squad. He definitely wouldn't have been our player at that time, because we would have bought a better player at that time. Now he is the best player to some Chelsea fans.

He is comparing Werner and Mount to Mudryk and Madueke. You are comparing the exciting players we have to Werner and Mount. How then can our team have success?