morris Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Outspoken Chelsea striker Didier Drogba has sensationally revealed Michael Ballack got it wrong in joining The Blues. Ballack joined the then Premier League champions in the summer of 2006 on a free transfer from Bayern Munich, however, his first season was largely disappointing. Drogba believes that Ballack has struggled at Stamford Bridge as Chelsea rely more on individuals, whereas the likes of Manchester United and Arsenal have balanced sides. "It is hard for Ballack - Chelsea is special," he told the Sun. "I'm convinced he would have had an easier time at Manchester United or Arsenal. "They benefit from a well-balanced team - he would have been a better fit there. "Here, we depend on our individuals so maybe Chelsea is not the right club for Ballack." http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.c ... 75052.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Another pop at 'whoever' signed him - I watched the press conference when we unveiled him last night, and I'm still convinced he wasn't Jose's player! Comments like this support the theory that Drogba will be leaving in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev123 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I don't get what point he was trying to make and I do hope this isn't true. Drogba wanting to leave I can take. But Drogba sh*t stirring with the squad is one thing I won't defend. I'm going to give Drogs the benefit of the doubt and go under the assumption this site is talking sh*t, unless they prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 From what I gather, and the rumblings in the media, there are some really pissed off players in our dressing room at the moment. This will only cause further unrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Spot on Bluenut. The team is falling apart right before our eyes. I was in denial for a long time but the last string of results and players' body language on the pitch finally convinced me that Chelsea are doomed. It's really bad, it'll get even worse and no matter if we win or lose, the new manager is total crap, players hate each other and all those flops were Roman's signings. If we win a few more matches it'll become really unbearable. At this rate, there's no hope for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibs Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I thought this was going to be about Ballack choosing a house in Esher rather than the much more favoured Cobham area with the more established players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Spot on Bluenut.The team is falling apart right before our eyes. I was in denial for a long time but the last string of results and players' body language on the pitch finally convinced me that Chelsea are doomed. It's really bad, it'll get even worse and no matter if we win or lose, the new manager is total crap, players hate each other and all those flops were Roman's signings. If we win a few more matches it'll become really unbearable. At this rate, there's no hope for us. Sarcasm really doesn't suit you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moos Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I don't see what's so wrong about what Drogba said. It's perhaps true and it's in no way rude. Also, we don't know the full context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Spot on Bluenut.The team is falling apart right before our eyes. I was in denial for a long time but the last string of results and players' body language on the pitch finally convinced me that Chelsea are doomed. It's really bad, it'll get even worse and no matter if we win or lose, the new manager is total crap, players hate each other and all those flops were Roman's signings. If we win a few more matches it'll become really unbearable. At this rate, there's no hope for us. Sarcasm really doesn't suit you Why do people always say that when they have no answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 For the benefit of Enrico: The team isn't falling apart right before our eyes, although there is unrest behind closed doors, Drogba's comments are again proof, but he leaving next summer so that doesn't matter does it? that were losing 1 of the best forward's in the world. We haven't had a string of crap results, we've won games I'd expect us to win. The flop's were not all Romans signings, but Shevchenko and Ballack were definately not Joses signings. No coincidence they're always missing when we win! I agree about the crap manager though. I don't trust the man and can understand how some of the players don't. Oh and there's always hope......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 For the benefit of Enrico:The team isn't falling apart right before our eyes, although there is unrest behind closed doors, Drogba's comments are again proof, but he leaving next summer so that doesn't matter does it? that were losing 1 of the best forward's in the world. We haven't had a string of crap results, we've won games I'd expect us to win. The flop's were not all Romans signings, but Shevchenko and Ballack were definately not Joses signings. No coincidence they're always missing when we win! I agree about the crap manager though. I don't trust the man and can understand how some of the players don't. Oh and there's always hope......... Bluenut there's really no need to be that optimistic mate. It doesn't suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbh Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I agree about the crap manager though. I don't trust the man and can understand how some of the players don't. Why do you think he is a crap Manager? seems to me he is making a decent job so far, all be it with the team he inherited, but NOT the back-room staff, unlike a certain Bolton manager who seemed to throw out the baby with the bath water, so if nothing else that has got to be a plus point surely, not changing every thing at once just for changes sake. You do not trust him, Why? has he stab you in the back? still owe you money? slagged you off behind your back? or is it because of media speculation? or he has not got a big name in the game, and are not willing to give him a fair chance because he has taken over from the best manager in Chelsea's history, who you and a fair few other people where shocked at his leaving, including myself, and the way in which it happened. As for the players not trusting him, do you know this from FACTS, have these players actually said as much to you or the media, or are you basing this fact on speculation, just like our famous media do, just to sully the already mucky waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 He has won 6 games we were fully expected to win, lets not get carried away, I don't like the way he got the job at the club and was promoted to manger, it was underhand. I don't think one of the reasons and his major credential for getting the job should be being the chairmans 'friend' I wouldn't lend someone like him money. He hasn't stabbed me in the back, but he did Jose, a man alot of the players were close to which is why I don't think some of them would trust him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev123 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 He has won 6 games we were fully expected to win, lets not get carried away,I don't like the way he got the job at the club and was promoted to manger, it was underhand. I don't think one of the reasons and his major credential for getting the job should be being the chairmans 'friend' I wouldn't lend someone like him money. He hasn't stabbed me in the back, but he did Jose, a man alot of the players were close to which is why I don't think some of them would trust him. You expected to come away from Mestalla with victory? Ok I predicted a win but realistically, if you would have checked bookies odds, we were by no means favourites for that game. Schalke (no pushovers) Hull, Mboro, Bolton (this year), those were games you can say we are expected to win. Fair enough tho one hard victory could be a fluke, so we'll just have to wait and see if he can repeat it (Schalke away?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Yeah Ok it was a great performance in Spain, and I fully expected us to get beat to be honest. But this is also the same side that lost 2-0 to Rosenburg last night so I'm not sure who to regard as better opposition to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 For the benefit of Enrico:The team isn't falling apart right before our eyes, although there is unrest behind closed doors, Drogba's comments are again proof, but he leaving next summer so that doesn't matter does it? that were losing 1 of the best forward's in the world. We haven't had a string of crap results, we've won games I'd expect us to win. The flop's were not all Romans signings, but Shevchenko and Ballack were definately not Joses signings. No coincidence they're always missing when we win! I agree about the crap manager though. I don't trust the man and can understand how some of the players don't. Oh and there's always hope......... Drogbas comments mean nothing to me, I doubt he made them for one and for two whatever he or anybody else says the media put their twist on it before it gets to us. Losing one of the best forwards in the world if that happens will be sad but if he is stirring things up which as I say I doubt then maybe we would be better off in the long run without him, I would also add that he will be leaving one off the best clubs in the world so not a great career move. We have won games you'd expect us to win? agreed me two and I expected us tro beat Rosenbourg and Villa, yes Rosenbourg just beat Valencia but we beat Shalke who beat Rosenbourg, does that mean we are improving faster than even I can believe The signings can be argued over for ever but not many managers would complain about Sheva and Ballack being thrust upon them and in fact some may have even found a way to make them work, I know Sheva still is getting no games but Ballack surely will and I believe will be a good player for us towards the end of the season (just my opinion based on I think he has been ok up to the injury) sheva too may still contribute once TC has had a bit more to do with the coaching. Not trusting Grant? football is a business and the man came here to do a job, he then got offered one of the biggest jobs in football and took it, If he turned it down his family and friends would probobly think he was mental, everybody in every job wants to move up the ladder and he has taken his chance and taken it very well so far, a reason not to trust him? Jose has supposedly said he's not interested in the England job, he said he would have been if it was earlier, does this mean he would have walked away from Chelsea to manage England a few months back? Grant can do no more than he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBosnian Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I agree with what Drogba has said, but I don't agree that it is a bad thing that we got Ballack. I am more optimistic - hoping we could change our style to suit "team players" like Ballack. I would get rid of those who depend on the "individuals" for a team full of "team players" anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 First and foremost this article is in The Sun and as such should be treated with the contempt it's credibility deserves. Secondly even if Didier did say it he would be talking cr*p - the one thing we have not been for the past three seasons is a team of individuals. We have shown as much, if not more, team spirit then any other team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Spot on Bluenut.The team is falling apart right before our eyes. I was in denial for a long time but the last string of results and players' body language on the pitch finally convinced me that Chelsea are doomed. It's really bad, it'll get even worse and no matter if we win or lose, the new manager is total crap, players hate each other and all those flops were Roman's signings. If we win a few more matches it'll become really unbearable. At this rate, there's no hope for us. I believe in the professionalism of our players. Some might be more professional than others. Dont try to build drama in something that possibly isnt there, women do that . The players are paid huge amounts of money and their fans are usually workers like probably most of us. I really believe most of our players think of these things even a bit. I dont think they want to look like bunch of arsenalholes in our eyes and act like primadonnas. Bosses change in normal workplaces also, but people move on. I think most of our players have moved on. If you think of it from the players point of view most of them are better playing in Chelsea, I mean what would be better team to win something. Ok you might say ManU, Barca or Milan, but the fact is that it is really hard to break into those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 He has won 6 games we were fully expected to win, You forgot to add, 'if we were under Jose.' Valencia we weren't expected to win, as you have already admitted. The loss to Man U under those circumstances were perfectly understandable and I don't think any rational person would blame Grant for that. Your reasons for thinking Grant is crap are entirely non-footballing. If you want to think he's a crap person that's your prerogative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I find it kind of interesting that Drobga has supposedly come out with these sensation comments and yet people are talking about Avram Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3blu Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Does'nt anybody else at the club have a voice. We hear nothing from AG,RA or PK. Terry the skipper is'nt saying much and the press know full well they can spin anything a player like Drogba say's into a headline. If AG is'nt happy with his players making coments then he should tell them to stop, he's the boss now its his job. Stop all press conferences or give one yourself. I think a lot of these coments have come from the fact Drogba for one has nothing but contempt for the current set up, and they in turn dont currently have complete control of the dressing room or the authority to deal with it yet. You cant argue that AG is'nt doing a decent job in steadying the ship but he is'nt doing anything different from the last manager, except he seems to have permission to leave Sheva out the team. I dont like the way AG has 'ghosted' into the mangers seat and neither do some of the players. If we were looking for a manager to take the club in a different direction then who would have chosen AG. Not one person out there, yet while i can see where some are coming from in terms of its done lets get on with it i still find it hard to understand how people would take the side of Grant over other people who having given so much to the club other the last few years like JM and DD. You can say its not about sides and that Grant had nothing to do with JM leaving CFC, of course he did'nt only one man could decide that, but having his chum waiting in the wings to pick up the reigns must have aided the decision,and the players are'nt silly. Personally i'd rather keep players like Drogba and Lampard at the club, and keep them happy. I know you cant bow to player power but if they cant work with or respect the new manager then i'd rather he left than the players because i could name a 100 managers with more pedigree,experience qualifications track record etc,etc,etc than AG. You would probably struggle to name on one hand the amount of centre forwards out there that could fill Drogba's boots and even then how many are available? If Drogba and Lampard leave it could start an exodus and put us back years, where if Grant left and a world class manager brought in it could be all go for next season again How about we get in a world class former player. A man who as a boy supported the club from the shed. A player who helped us win our first silverware in 26yrs. A sucessful player at some of the biggest clubs in the world who since turning to managment has done excellently at both international level and in the premier league and europe. Who's back room staff are all Chelsea. Lets get in Mark Hughes, with Eddie Ned and hitchy in is back room team. Lets unite the dressing room and the fans and lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Does'nt anybody else at the club have a voice. We hear nothing from AG,RA or PK. Terry the skipper is'nt saying much and the press know full well they can spin anything a player like Drogba say's into a headline.If AG is'nt happy with his players making coments then he should tell them to stop, he's the boss now its his job. Stop all press conferences or give one yourself. I think a lot of these coments have come from the fact Drogba for one has nothing but contempt for the current set up, and they in turn dont currently have complete control of the dressing room or the authority to deal with it yet. You cant argue that AG is'nt doing a decent job in steadying the ship but he is'nt doing anything different from the last manager, except he seems to have permission to leave Sheva out the team. I dont like the way AG has 'ghosted' into the mangers seat and neither do some of the players. If we were looking for a manager to take the club in a different direction then who would have chosen AG. Not one person out there, yet while i can see where some are coming from in terms of its done lets get on with it i still find it hard to understand how people would take the side of Grant over other people who having given so much to the club other the last few years like JM and DD. You can say its not about sides and that Grant had nothing to do with JM leaving CFC, of course he did'nt only one man could decide that, but having his chum waiting in the wings to pick up the reigns must have aided the decision,and the players are'nt silly. Personally i'd rather keep players like Drogba and Lampard at the club, and keep them happy. I know you cant bow to player power but if they cant work with or respect the new manager then i'd rather he left than the players because i could name a 100 managers with more pedigree,experience qualifications track record etc,etc,etc than AG. You would probably struggle to name on one hand the amount of centre forwards out there that could fill Drogba's boots and even then how many are available? If Drogba and Lampard leave it could start an exodus and put us back years, where if Grant left and a world class manager brought in it could be all go for next season again How about we get in a world class former player. A man who as a boy supported the club from the shed. A player who helped us win our first silverware in 26yrs. A sucessful player at some of the biggest clubs in the world who since turning to managment has done excellently at both international level and in the premier league and europe. Who's back room staff are all Chelsea. Lets get in Mark Hughes, with Eddie Ned and hitchy in is back room team. Lets unite the dressing room and the fans and lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Spot on Bluenut.The team is falling apart right before our eyes. I was in denial for a long time but the last string of results and players' body language on the pitch finally convinced me that Chelsea are doomed. It's really bad, it'll get even worse and no matter if we win or lose, the new manager is total crap, players hate each other and all those flops were Roman's signings. If we win a few more matches it'll become really unbearable. At this rate, there's no hope for us. I believe in the professionalism of our players. Some might be more professional than others. Dont try to build drama in something that possibly isnt there, women do that . The players are paid huge amounts of money and their fans are usually workers like probably most of us. I really believe most of our players think of these things even a bit. I dont think they want to look like bunch of arsenalholes in our eyes and act like primadonnas. Bosses change in normal workplaces also, but people move on. I think most of our players have moved on. If you think of it from the players point of view most of them are better playing in Chelsea, I mean what would be better team to win something. Ok you might say ManU, Barca or Milan, but the fact is that it is really hard to break into those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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