Mod Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Sampdoria claim Andrei Shevchenko would be happy to join, if they can agree on the Chelsea striker's wages.Reports in Italy have linked Samp with a bid to sign £30million striker Shevchenko on loan for the coming season. Shevchenko's future at Stamford Bridge continues to be the subject of speculation after failing to sparkle during two years in West London. His former club Milan have expressed an interest in signing the Ukrainian ace on loan, but Serie A rivals Sampdoria are also keen. According to general manager Beppe Marotta, the major issue concerning a move for Shevchenko is the size of the 31-year-old's pay packet. Never say never "We have a way to resolve our problems up front with a figure able to stir up the crowd as well as put the ball in the back of the net," Marotta told Secolo XIX newspaper. "Sheva would be happy to join us, but there are problems around his wages. "Many top class players like Sampdoria and a deal is entirely plausible, so never say never." Antonio Cassano joined Sampdoria in a similar arrangement from Real Madrid last summer and flourished at the club, while Hernan Crespo and Giampaolo Pazzini have also been linked with moves. Marotta added: "Let's just say they are in the same situation as Sheva. The Cassano move is a difficult thing to replicate, but never say never." Source I think Sheva could be one to go, I doubt he wants to see out his career by spending the majority of it on the bench or not even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Power Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 SourceI think Sheva could be one to go, I doubt he wants to see out his career by spending the majority of it on the bench or not even there. i dunno about sheva, the man was the worlds very top striker until he came to us, maybe just maybe big phil can give us a style of play that suits his game him and drogba working in tandem with the likes of deco, joey cole, ronaldinho ? robinho ? ballack. lampard etc would be mouthwatering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snitrbt25 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 What a great day it'll be when he eventually leaves. Unfortunately I think he'll stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 i reckon he should get 1 last crack of the whip at chelsea he was doing great until he got injured just before or around xmas, then he never got to play again, apart from the odd few mins here and there remember form is temporary class is permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I thought the title said "Shaun" and I got all excited :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 The strange thing is I saw a report on the american soccer channel last night saying that Sheva had made clear a desire to return to the San Siro at a vastly dropped wage. In my opinion selling for decent wage to Milan >>> Keeping him to see what he do under Big Fil >>>>>>>>>>>loaning him until the end of his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Oh good lord not another LOAN out. If you do not want a player you SELLL them!!!! (also see Veron, Crespo, Boula etc etc) *pisses me off* :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 My thoughts exactly Jimboola...Why the hell should we loan him out, or any player (unless a youngster) again? SO Sampdoria get him and we continue to pay half his wages? Will we ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish-Chelsea Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I reckon this could be his season with us. Under Scolari Sheva should be pressing to impress the new boss and get back to his Milan form. As a guy already said the class is there, it's just he has to find his form. An on-form Sheva and Drogba upfront with Robinho and Cole out wide would be stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Yep. I know this is starting to sound like famous last words, but a new coach, new system and new start for Sheva could be just what he needs to get going. With a player like Deco, who creates, slotting in where we used to have Frank who was primarily a goal getter, might be just what he needs. The reason Sheva failed so miserably was nobody was there to get him the ball. I dont buy his lack of pace as the only reason he hasnt been good. Considering, too, he is good with Roman, and overall, a good team guy, I would rather keep him on even at the expense of a bloated, underachieving wage, than just give him away for nothing and be made fools of again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longtail Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Yep. I know this is starting to sound like famous last words, but a new coach, new system and new start for Sheva could be just what he needs to get going. With a player like Deco, who creates, slotting in where we used to have Frank who was primarily a goal getter, might be just what he needs.The reason Sheva failed so miserably was nobody was there to get him the ball. I dont buy his lack of pace as the only reason he hasnt been good. Considering, too, he is good with Roman, and overall, a good team guy, I would rather keep him on even at the expense of a bloated, underachieving wage, than just give him away for nothing and be made fools of again Agreed My first post and I hope Shev gets a fair crack under the new manager. I think he has worked hard when he has had the chance and deserves some decent service. I met him and got his autograph and he has plenty of time for the fans. basically a good guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Welcome to the club longtail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Jesus H Christ people. When will you learn. Great as he once was, Sheva frightens EPL defenders aboiut as much as Brian Mc Bride. The man is an ex-striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longtail Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 (edited) Jesus H Christ people. When will you learn.Great as he once was, Sheva frightens EPL defenders aboiut as much as Brian Mc Bride. The man is an ex-striker. That my friend is the view of somebody who likely knows nothing about football. Geezer Thanks for the welcome Edited July 13, 2008 by longtail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 That my friend is the view of somebody who likely knows nothing about football.Geezer Thanks for the welcome So you've been here a minute and already telling the regulars they know nothing about football. Good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 He's right though; Sheva is a great player, and far from being an 'ex-striker' - had he not been hit by injury last season at a crucial time I really think we would of seen the best of him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish-Chelsea Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 So you've been here a minute and already telling the regulars they know nothing about football.Good start. Forums are about opinions, and in this case he's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Sheva was one of my favioret non chelsea players for a long time. you know the kind, when the CL's on the we'r not involved you watch the milan game because you might get to see one of the worlds best strikers put on a bit of a show.. that kind of thing All that said he looks masivly short of pace and stregnth now days and just doesnt look a force any more.. to put it in perspective... in two seasons at spuds berbs has racked over 40 goals. i think sheva may have hit about 15 for us.. im quite preaperd to admit that one has played far more games than the other but if we break it down further in over 45 league games sheva has scored 9 goals... and it becomes a bigger problem when you take a look at the teams he's scoring those goals against, its the watfords of this world!! Then again big fil could be just the tonic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 The man is an ex-striker. You are probably right, however I think it would be a shame to see him leave without at least being given a chance in Scolari's new setup, where he should get the support from midfield, plus the sublime passing of Deco to play him in. In the last two seasons, whenever we have played Sheva, it seems like both Mourinho and Grant's tactic was to tell the rest of the team to close their eyes and pretend he was Drogba. Now, any way you look at it, it is a bit much to ask a striker who is losing his physical skills to perform the same job as the undoubted best physical striker in the world. When we did that it was playing to Sheva's weaknesses. I think it is blatantly obvious that Sheva's best days are behind him, but if we are going to play him, we have to play to his strengths - which are his one on one finishing and his inteligent off-the-ball work to create space - which he should get from an attacking midfield build around someone like Deco rather than someone like Lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Good point Tom. I guess it comes down to Scolari's decisions on our other strikers as to whether Sheva is given a chance as our 3rd choice striker or not. If DD goes, and we bring in one other, I can see Sheva staying. If DD and Anelka go, I can see Sheva staying as well, but two coming in. If DD stays and we bring in a striker, then I can see him going, and our strikeforce being DD, Anelka, New Player and Di Santo Also depends, obviously, on whether he is happy being a bit part player, as however well this season goes for him, I can't see him being anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimboola69 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Sheva in his 20's I think would have revelled in Scolari's team. Jose's style was never right for him and essentially it has amounted to 'wasted years'. The style/formation that Scolari likes would be similar to that employed by AC Milan where Kaka was sloting balls through for him. Deco is exactly the sort of player who can (and has) done that for strikers. I just doubt that Sheva has enough 'under the bonnet' anymore. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 One more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longtail Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 So you've been here a minute and already telling the regulars they know nothing about football.Good start. I have been a guest on the forum for qhite some time but only just decided to get more involved. I have my opinions and dont think the time I have been on the forum makes them any less important than anyone who has been here for longer. Sheva deserves more respect and that is something that can be said for other players/staff. Sheva has maybe lost a bit of pace but he has always come on and played his nuts off for the team even when the team is set out to play to Drogbas strengths rather than his. It was not long ago Ballack was regarded as a signing forced on the management that was also past his best! oh how fickle people can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I have been a guest on the forum for qhite some time but only just decided to get more involved.I have my opinions and dont think the time I have been on the forum makes them any less important than anyone who has been here for longer. Sheva deserves more respect and that is something that can be said for other players/staff. Sheva has maybe lost a bit of pace but he has always come on and played his nuts off for the team even when the team is set out to play to Drogbas strengths rather than his. It was not long ago Ballack was regarded as a signing forced on the management that was also past his best! oh how fickle people can be. but if he's not good enough, he's not good enoug... if you put me out on the pitch id run my nuts of as well, but (As many people here could testify) i wouldnt be much good. So on that basis how is it wrong to state the or a relevent oppinion. As for the style, well how many times have we seen sheva through on goal only to be caught by a defender he would have skined 4 years ago, and try and go past some one and be eased of the ball. Based on his performances in the last 2 seasons he's not good enough its as simple as that, nothing to do with respect or lack there of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballack & Blu Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I Seem t oremember just prior to Xmas 07,when he played a few Games he scored a few goals,and just cos A."i know everything about football Hansen" started his legs have gone campaign,he looked pretty sharp,or am i just looking thru "shevva tinted spex" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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