MHedges Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Daily Express http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/54071/...l-off-the-posse he Football Association are set to sanction a revolutionary new rule that will mean only team captains are permitted to talk to referees next season. The change will apply across the entire game in England and signals the end of baying mobs of players chasing referees to argue decisions. Only fine tuning remains before the rule is given the go-ahead in time for the start of the Football League two weeks from today and the Premier League kick-off on August 16. There could be tougher punishment for players and managers who abuse referees and, in ‘grass-roots’ games, parents and other spectators will have to stand in roped-off areas. The moves are part of the FA’s Respect campaign, to help referees and assistants reinstate their authority. At the top of the game, the aim is to prevent incidents such as the red card last season of Liverpool’s Javier Mascherano for repeatedly showing dissent to referee Steve Bennett. At grass roots, the campaign wants to staunch the haemorrhaging of referees out of the game and tackle the critical shortage of officials. There are more than 40,000 registered football clubs in England, some running 12 or more teams. Yet there are fewer than 30,000 people qualified to referee or act as an assistant referee. However many are recruited each season, at least as many give up. Most of those who quit cite unacceptable behaviour of parents at children’s matches or abuse by spectators and players at adult games. When Lord Triesman, himself a former referee, became chairman of the FA last January, he gave enthusiastic support to the Respect campaign and two events in the Premier League proved a watershed. --------------- I think this could be a great rule if implemented correctly. Too many times do we see this crowding, and it ends up getting everyone in trouble (usually us). It might also teach the kids how the right way to do things is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 and rightly so. im a rugby league fan and the authorities have recently clamped down on any back chat after it started to creep into the game. i hope the refs take a stand next season in the prem and hammer anyone who gives them abuse. quite frankly i dont know how they can take the crap they do. no way would i take the kind of slaver they take of anyone, let alone a football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 wonder if it will apply to the mancs?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 wonder if it will apply to the mancs?? dont be silly. the law only applys to chelsea remember. were the only club that gets done for surrounding the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 For some reason I thought this was already in place, and had been for a long time. Maybe something to do with the old-fashioned (un)gentlemanly conduct thing. JT of course will continue to be slagged off left, right and centre for daring to open his mouth, whereas Wenger and the Arse (Wenger and his Arse, which is what the stinking f**king hypocrite talks out of 99% of the time) will be applauded for daring innovation in continuing to confront outmoded ways of interpreting the laws of the game. Same as the Mancs, who will always be the exception, especially while the authorities live in fear of Ferguson's tongue. And quite rightly so. After all, who knows where it's been. Which brings us back to Wenger's Arse ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish-Chelsea Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Why was nothing said when Ferguson was saying something to the ref just before the kick off at HT in the CL? If that was Terry/Lamps/Grant/Anybody related with Chelsea we would have been slaughterd for mouthing off att he ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 im a rugby league fan and the authorities have recently clamped down on any back chat after it started to creep into the game. I just hope it doesn't go the same way in the Premiership as it has gone with rugby league over here. It is the new thing for a club to name about 3 or 4 "co-captains" so that any one of them can talk to the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I posted about this a year or two ago. Can't remember exactly what I said then (so much has happened between then and now, I borrowed Geezer's lawnmower for a start) but basically I favour an idea whereby if a player, or players, starts to gob off at a ref or crowd him etc then the ref should given them one warning with that warning being 'You have two seconds to shut up and move away from me' - if that player doesn't instantly back away then he gets booked. If there are 5 players crowding the ref and none of them move away then all five get booked. If that results in games where we end up with 9 vs 9 so be it - once players start getting sent off and serving suspensions for being mouthy then you will see manager's instructing them to keep it zipped I do think captains should be allowed to question a ref to some extent and be given an explanation but there is still a difference between questioning and being in a ref's face and gobbing off. Any captain doing that should also be booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backbiter Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I do think captains should be allowed to question a ref to some extent and be given an explanation but there is still a difference between questioning and being in a ref's face and gobbing off. Any captain doing that should also be booked. But Rooney will still be allowed to swear in the ref's face 104 times a game, won't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Brilliant. I've been banging on about this for ages. Hopefully it will stop the ritual surrounding of ref's which is frankly embarrassing when Chelsea are involved. Plus the ref's will be able to make themselves clear to the captain, who will find it hard to rant and rage in a one-on-one situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chino Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I am glad that they enforced a rule of this nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plavi26 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Strange, but like Lofty said, I thought this rule was already in place. Since I've been playing footy, one of the first rules when addressing the ref is that the skipper does it. And it has pretty much always been like that, in the old days (OK prior to the new millenium ). I have only recently seen in the game this trend of mobbing the officials, and it dosen't look pretty. One thing I have to say though, is that Chelsea have always been hit for mobbing the ref while for the other teams, the FA seems to look away. How many times Liverp**l, Arse and Mancs have done the same or even worst and no sanctions were applied? The FA has become a real joke and has shown a great number of double-standards. It's a good move from them, but let's see how will it be applied before making any real judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I am glad that they enforced a rule of this nature. They've not enforced it yet. As with all these new ideas they'll do it for a couple of matches, send a couple of players off and then stop doing it. If something is worth doing then it is worth doing properly. What about goal line technology.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 The reason there is no goal line technology is football corruption, that's the only thing I can think of why in this day and age something like that hasn't been brought in. I think a lot of folk are making money in the game by dodgy means, and goal line technology would be the start to stop corruption. Look at UEFA, they would lose millions in dodgy cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 You reckon? How many games have been decided by dodgy goals? The Liverpool v Chelsea game is obviously one. The game happens so quick that mistakes are bound to happen. I doubt there is a lot of it going on with bribes that goal line technology would fix, but if it clears up human error then it is a good thing. It has worked well in cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Exactly even Cricket and Tennis have the technology, and a game as big as football is still relying on eyes, or maybe not even that. There would be no proof of dodgy goals, but bet it happens all the time. The Bruce Grob thing only came out years after it happened. As for bribes, look at the story of the UEFA fixtures announced before the draw had even taken place. It's all corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 wow amazing news. this will be enforced in an overly officious manner for 2 months before being completely forgotten until may, when a commentator will say "what happened to that initiative about captains blah blah blah"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 it will still be 1 rule for some and another rule for others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 it will still be 1 rule for some and another rule for others yes, yes it will. or more accurately, one rule for chelsea, one rule for the rest. the fa need to top the coffers up somehow, and we seem to be there favourite cash cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 it will still be 1 rule for some and another rule for others Why was nothing said when Ferguson was saying something to the ref just before the kick off at HT in the CL?If that was Terry/Lamps/Grant/Anybody related with Chelsea we would have been slaughterd for mouthing off att he ref. One thing I have to say though, is that Chelsea have always been hit for mobbing the ref while for the other teams, the FA seems to look away. How many times Liverp**l, Arse and Mancs have done the same or even worst and no sanctions were applied? yes, yes it will. or more accurately, one rule for chelsea, one rule for the rest. the fa need to top the coffers up somehow, and we seem to be there favourite cash cow. Do you guys really, truly believe this stuff? Do you really believe that we have achieved the massive success of the past 5 years despite this wholesale conspiracy against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Liam, chelsea site... if they want to believe the moon is a big peiece of blue cheese sponserd by samsung and carefree written on its ass end than all the better for it. I dont care much for the well balanced football argument, i care for the well balanced chelsea argument and if we want to whallo we will whallo dam it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 don't you find it immensely tedious? I personally hate it, and find that people too easy to slip into self perpetuated delusion, then spend the next 4 centuries repeating back the myths and half truths that they've created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barak81 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I dont really care to be honest, it doesnt impact me at all and it makes for light reading. I even participate my self from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBosnian Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Oh my God, Ashley Cole is our new captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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