Posted November 13, 200816 yr well it leaves us with fewer stupid games mid season when we end up travelling to some godforsaken northern town. Ok so it's embarrassing to go out to a lesser team but when all is said and done we want to win the EPL and the CL don't we? So how much does it really matter apart from lost pride?
November 13, 200816 yr well it leaves us with fewer stupid games mid season when we end up travelling to some godforsaken northern town. Ok so it's embarrassing to go out to a lesser team but when all is said and done we want to win the EPL and the CL don't we?So how much does it really matter apart from lost pride? We're in 4 competitions, we have a squad big enough to cope with being in 4 competitions. The league cup is now down to the last eight so there's not many games to go to get to what would have been our 4th league cup final in a row. We are now back to being beaten by the likes of Barnsley or Burnley in the domestic cups, I hope everyone who was bored with Jose's football were also bored with their trips to domestic cup finals. Chelsea are back Chelsea are back hello...hello. Now we can concentrate on the League.....Champions League etc are always the poor excuses rolled out by sides who are knocked out of it! Poor excuses indeed!
November 13, 200816 yr In keeping with what has become a Wenger Week theme in the Media, no the Carling Cup does not matter. Neither does winning, because football is all about giving youth a chance, no more, no less.
November 13, 200816 yr Always concerned when we lose regardless of the competition and no excuse losing AT HOME to sides like Burnley.
November 13, 200816 yr It's not just about losing, but also about how inconsistent we've been this season. I'm worried we might not have any trophies to concentrate on after Christmas if this "win one, lose one" -streak becomes a habit.
November 14, 200816 yr It does matter when we played half first 11 and still couldnt beat a lower division team. How the f** do we expect Malouda, Kalou etc to win us title when they couldnt mix with the team from low division? It didnt matter much if we played ' Chelsea youth' or 'reserve', but put half of the first team through 120 minutes, and not getting anything out if it is simply disgraceful!
November 14, 200816 yr Yes it matters. Losing always matters. It matters that we couldn't kill the game off. It matters that we lost at home again. It matters that we lost to lower league opposition. It matters that nothing was learnt from the game. It matters because winning is a habit that's too easy to break. I'm a bad loser, always have been. Footballers and managers should also be bad losers, with the desire to win every single game. It's called commitment. Even when we were piss poor, involved in relegation battles (and worse) and were usually expected to lose, there was always that little spark of hope that this week there'd be a miracle, that crap as we were, this would be the day we'd turn the corner, we'd wipe the floor with the league leaders and subsequently put together a run of victories. Or that this season we'd somehow fluke our way to the FA Cup Final, maybe even lift the Cup. Of course it matters. If it doesn't, what's the point of turning up?
November 15, 200816 yr We're in 4 competitions, we have a squad big enough to cope with being in 4 competitions. The league cup is now down to the last eight so there's not many games to go to get to what would have been our 4th league cup final in a row.We are now back to being beaten by the likes of Barnsley or Burnley in the domestic cups, I hope everyone who was bored with Jose's football were also bored with their trips to domestic cup finals. Chelsea are back Chelsea are back hello...hello. Now we can concentrate on the League.....Champions League etc are always the poor excuses rolled out by sides who are knocked out of it! Poor excuses indeed! No we don't! No team has big enough squad for 4 very tough competitions in one season. Okay, one less chance to win something but we should look this at more ambitious way. We want CL and EPL, all the other is plus! I always hate the way our managers say(have to say) that we try to win all 4, that is just idiotic and it is just a plain lie that no one believes. Why not speak out with squad selection like Wenger does, he has guts to admit 4 is too much.
November 15, 200816 yr well it leaves us with fewer stupid games mid season when we end up travelling to some godforsaken northern town. Ok so it's embarrassing to go out to a lesser team but when all is said and done we want to win the EPL and the CL don't we?So how much does it really matter apart from lost pride? Yes it matters that we got knocked out of a cup by a lower division club. What matters more though is the manner of the defeat. Once again we struggled to break down a well-organised team at home. Half the players looked disinterested and/or piss poor, the manager seemed clueless and when it went to extra time, I was already sure we were going out on pens. Call it an overreaction, but it seems to be part of a worrying trend rather than a one-off blip.
November 15, 200816 yr It does matter... given the choice you would have taken the victory. ¬___¬ It's damn annoying, but it's just lucky it wasn't one of the more important cups.
November 16, 200816 yr In the macroscopic view, i will say that I am glad we are out of this competition if we had to go out of one. Obviously we wouldnt be out of the CL or the League already, but if we were going to lose out on one trophy, better it be the CC than any other. I wish we would use the thing like Le Arse and just plug the youngins in there and let them go to work. That said, I didnt see the game, so I cant comment on why it was such a difficult loss to take.
November 16, 200816 yr The carling cup's meaning is not the thing, its prestige rather low. It would just have been the perfect excuse when ending with no other title again claiming one is not a trophy-free zone. After we've had that provocative transparent at Anfield last season it's a sort of benchmark (not to say the scousers will come with the community shield from last year or the year before!). I don't see much other meaning in the cc. On the other hand it's growing weird with the "bounce back". We can play weak sides, yes. We can play wonderfully against them. We could even play Aston Villa - not such a weak side though not a big name. But after each "defeat" or disappointments we hear the promise of "bounce back" - and it's always against weaker sides and we know that this proves nothing because we can play against weaker sides. But only can as we even didn't manage Burnley. This gives me something to think about. Not the fact that we're out of the Carling Cup. But the fact that it is not a positive development we've gone through makes me think about it.
November 19, 200816 yr I am less worried about this comp than I am Drogba getting banned in the same match - one thing to be out of the league cup, another to jeopardise the Prem Drogba really needs to grow up
