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Not sure I agree re Anselmino . From what is being rumoured, yes I know, Badiashille is very likely to go and a deal has been agreed with Disasi to go to WHU but at this time his agents are trying to get him a deal with a PL club. Tosin I agree is 50% . Add to the mix Sarr who did ok when he played & of course Fofana who I personally would be happy to see gone. Let’s assume that we do go with 3CB we have I guess on Colwill, Josh, Hato & maybe Reece but I think we need two a Edit. Forgot Challobah who I think is almost certainly off

So there is no thoughts that actually the players just weren't very good, possibly through fatigue and they basically got outplayed and overrun and therefore couldn't get out. I agree with the timings that you have identified. As an example they brought on Nico Gonzalez on 64 minutes and i don't think we could really cope with him along with everything else that was coming at the team. Personally, i think key to the result was the fact the Rice clearly was still not fully up to speed and we had no back up to pack that defensive midfield area, thus making us go deeper and deeper. I do agree that TT tried to rely on a ploy that worked against the Mexicans and would never work here, but i just wonder whether his hand was being forced by the direction of play and the bluntness of our midfield and attack.

Dont know how anyone can claim he made the right decisions with the squad, thats partially the reason weve struggled in the last 2 games. Quansah instead of TAA, Hall or Shaw Madueke instead of Foden Henderson instead of Gibbs White or Wharton (the worst one of all) Toney instead of anyone else Last night as we were losing control he had nothing to do to change it, he sat and watched it all happen with zero input into stopping it other than to get our team to drop deeper and deeper, and become more compact. Having someone like Gibbs White to run with the ball, Foden to take control and either make space or draw a foul, Hall on for an exhausted Spence, someone other than Toney to give us a target. He f**ked the squad up massively, highlighted perfectly by the balls up at right back, took 2 injury prone ones who then got injured (surprisingly to him), then replaced them with a CB who never got a single minute of game time.

Or Nobby Stiles.

Maybe we should take a pass on spending a fortune on this bloke and sign John Stones on a FREE?

Did you watch that second half? Not a single one of those left our half. From minute 66:05 - 84:42 we made 2 passes as a team. In 18 minutes and 37 seconds, 2 passes. Those 2 passes were from Pickford to Stones and from Stones to Pickford. Sit deep and hoof it up. Pathetic, never seen anything like it before.

Tuchel either bottled it or too many of the English players were heavily fatigued which guided his decisions on subs. As soon as the equaliser went in England were f**ked.

John Stones on a FREE from Citeh. Maybe he is the experienced Centre back that we need?

He wasn't though was he. He had Rogers, Bellingham and Rice around him but none of them were effective enough.

Yep. Or looking at it another way, as announced to us all by the Captain, the plan having scored the first was to go after the second and push for the win. Ally that comment to the point highlighted by @GarnachoCheese above that the Captain himself had one shot, which i suspect is still more, or comparable to that of Rogers and Bellingham and the question i suppose then is whether to support the defence who were being overrun due to our misfiring attack or replace the attackers with Rashford (himself in and out of form) or Toney who hadn't kicked a ball yet. I don't think any of it is ideal, personally i think it was inevitable because only Anderson, Gordon and to a certain extent Spence had effective games. There were just not enough players affecting the performance unfortunately.

Could have been worse. We should be thankful he didn't bring Raheem Sterling and Eric Dier.

We will sign him for twice the price in 3 years. Why we didnt even go for Sensei on a free baffles me.

He'd rather have all our players camped in the box giving the opposition time to take pop shots, Kane was on his own against Romero and Li5'4ndro 80 yards from goal. Pathetic coward tactics.

The tactics in the final quarter were flawed, inviting the disaster which inevitably followed, we needed to be braver...

Well, maybe Real Madrid will try to buy him, if he has a good final against Spain? The tactics in the final quarter were flawed, inviting the disaster which inevitably followed, we needed to be braver...

Think you nailed it with the negativity in his coaching. I recall far too many times at Chelsea we started with 7-8 defensive minded players. He didn’t start this way, but the more time he spent with us the more he seemed to retract. Some bad tactical decisions and the wrong personnel to call upon. It wasn’t if they scored, but when.

Does it? How?

when you have the massive bottle top Kane upfront. who has only won things in a one horse division, dont expect to win tournaments. Dont ever expect to win a tournament with a spurs right back in the starting line up. Best thing Delap could have done for England was to rule Spence out of the tournament, he even missed that opportunity.

You dont take a player of Spence's ability to the World Cup if there are other players who are much better at the job available. Spence had to recover from his own mistake and giving the ball away to make that goal-saving tackle. He also was on the side that kept losing Messi in the second half. He's, at best, a dogsh*t player who has pace; that is it, he was abysmal for Spurs last season. TBH, last night's performance didnt shock me, weve seen the best and worst of Tuchel at the bridge so last night's result wasnt suprising. you dont defend a game with a 1-0 lead for 30+ minutes.

I had a little time to think it over Had a little room to work it out I found a little courage to call it off I've had a little time

All the UK sportswriters are asking do we stick with Gareth Tuchel, or do we move on.

More importantly, Egnatia Rrogozhinë v Petrocub in the first round of Champions League qualifying finished 6-1 to Egnatia Rrogozhinë, 7-1 on aggregate. No dancing in the street of Hîncești.

lol

Yeah you can now be stressed watching Chelsea instead.