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I thought his clause was 8.5 when he seemed on his way to liverpool? Now the papers are saying it's 2 million more?

He never said the transfer was going to happen that day. Who knows, maybe Torres did fly to Milan and had meetings with their coach and director over the past week. In my view he got this right.

Think Chelsea and Jose didn't want to take the risk. The club has been in the spotlight way too much over the years.

Funny to see arse fans moaning on twitter and everywhere else about our group draw. They should be content with the fact that Chelsea's strong European showings are what allows them to compete in the CL when they win their annual 4th place trophy.

Okay thanks, and yea it doesn't look like Chelsea were ever in for him during this window.

So he's primarily a winger then? His stats seemed like striker stats so I thought he probably played a few games there.

Dortmund were pissed off when he said it. Since no club went in for him since, I think Bayern probably have an agreement with him for next summer. And I have to be honest and say I've never really seen him play except obligatory youtube highlights and a match against City.

Thanks to the negotiating team and Mourinho for finally bringing this to an end. This is a player who cost the club 3 managers, including a double champion and a club legend, to be fired. He had his way and got the club to appoint the fat one, which will permanently leave a blemish on this club. On the night we won the Champions League thanks to Drogba, and not Fernando "corner" Torres, he had the nerve to go and moan to the media. It's no surprise why Drogba didn't bother to negotiate a new contract. Torres' demands also cost the club a good, young striker in Sturridge. Regarding his "highlights" here, there were none. Yes, he won the corner that led to Drogba's goal. But you can trace back every incident that led us to win that competition or even be in the final. Ashley Cole's clearance off the line against Napoli, Terry's goal against Napoli, Lampard's perfect passes in both legs against Barca that led to goals. Torres is getting cheap praise. We did not challenge for a league title under him. A 50m player, let alone a striker, should be able to lead his team to a title. Aguero won it for City, RVP won it for United, In 2010 Drogba for us. Yes, he did score in the Europa league final, but that is not our level. Chelsea is an elite club. Torres has been an abject failure. One of the worst players to wear this shirt. Take his price out of the equation, he still failed to do his one job on the pitch. The likes of Mata, Willian, Hazard, Oscar were all brought in to help. They excelled but he didn't. He summed up how he felt about this club by refusing to score against liverpool and passing the ball to Willian. Good riddance. The club can finally go upwards now.

For anyone who watches the Bundesliga or Dortmund matches, does Reus play as a second striker or winger for Dortmund? His stats show that he scores a lot. I'm surprised we haven't been linked to him (unless he's an identical player to Schurrle). The Bayern CEO said his buyout clause is supposed to be 25m euros.

I know, and the league cup win did give the team a first taste of success and possibly helped them mentally to carry through the second half of the season. okay.

It is a historic prize to win, however, it is not bigger than the league and/or the champions league. Any top club's ambition in the modern era will always be to win their domestic league and try to win the CL. They are, but some are not as important as others.

I disagree about the CL and I don't consider the Europa to have been something great. I'm sure other fans will disagree with me on that last point and it's understandable. Anyway, if I came across as an angry **** in my replies, it's just mis-directed anger so I apologise.

So what big trophy did he he help Chelsea win? There are only two big trophies the club competes for, the league title, and the champions league. Everything else is minor.

No, he didn't win us the CL. If anything, it was RDM because he was the one who brought him on. We can also say, if Torres was not brought on maybe we would have still scored. Trying to give Torres cheap credit is not right. He cost us Drogba who could have given us at least two more years and probably a few more league titles, he cost us a bright young talent in Sturridge, he also played his part in a club legend like Di Matteo getting fired, and lastly, he got that big fat waiter to work for this club. If Torres gave anything to this club, it was mostly negative. But if it's a transfer to another club with a transfer fee being paid, then I don't think the club has to pay anything.

What's all this talk about a severance/pay off? Surely it's just sensationalised gossip by the media? I can't imagine Torres or his representatives having the dignity to ask for something like that when he gave nothing to this club.

'Specialist' means you're good at something on a consistent basis. Wenger was an expert at winning sweet F all for almost ten years, whereas Jose was not. It's also no great achievement by struggling to defeat the mighty Hull City, especially when you bought a player for 42 million. Mourinho has never even bought a player for that amount.

He's normally spot on with transfer news.

https://twitter.com/PetrCech/status/500365261397319680 "15.8. 2004 was my debut for #CFC ... It has been an incredible journey since. ;-) ... Hope the next decade will be as exciting. :-D" Cech posted that yesterday. I wouldn't mind which keeper decides to leave to be honest. Both have 10 quality years of playing time ahead of them.

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/499633102101442561 Gianluca Di MarzioVerified accountâ€@DiMarzio And @Atleti wants #Schurrle now: spanish club is talking to @chelseafc to find an agreement ------ If this is true, I hope the club tells them to p*** off. Especially how they carried about themselves with Courtois and Costa. (unless they're willing to pay £40m/straight swap with Koke for him)

He was injured.

Do you guys remember the transfer deadline on 2012? CTV went all the way to midnight and Gigi said to expect some news but nothing came of it in the end. Some Chelsea fans are saying it was Remy, and that the transfer didn't go through because of the same medical problem. However... Duncan Castles is claiming that Remy's move to liverpool broke down because of money and not a medical. Believe whichever one you want.

"We can work and play with two of them at the same time, so it's not just the point of we can only play with one striker, and the other two will be on the bench. No, we are preparing things and we are working things where it's possible to have two of them on the pitch. So yes, we have a group of three strikers that hopefully will give us a lot." - Mourinho I think this means Torres is staying. It's too late to sign Cavani, sell Torres, and sort out the squad rules.

Before we got the likes of Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Willian, and Schurrle, Chelsea fans were saying that Torres didn't get enough service from players of Malouda, Anelka, and Kalou's quality. Even Lampard was made a scape goat. I do agree that sometimes our players run too much with the ball and we end up going nowhere, but perhaps these players had little faith in the strikers? Why should they create abundant chances for an unreliable striker to miss goal scoring opportunities when they think they have a chance of doing something better? Maybe that's their thinking. But we could also look at other teams with talented midfields. For example, Madrid have a talented midfield and Benzema gets 25+ goals, same for Bayern, and City.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22xn5y_john-terry-new-season-hd_sport Terry speaking on the new season.

If it's true, Chelsea should tell them straight swap for Koke or nothing.