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This aged well. 

Poch's impressive trophy haul at Tottenham in 5 years. World class.

call my cynical but the kid could score 50 goals this season and still wouldn't kick a ball for chelsea in the future

I'm sure you won't be surprised to learn that again I have deemed this latest post of yours as more unadulterated shite. 
 
Given that old red nose Ferguson is happy to hang all and sundry out to dry in each and every one of his published works, it is highly unlikely that he would unnecessarily pass comment on Mourinho's overt commitment to Abramovich and Chelsea at the time of the Moyes appointment.
 
What would Ferguson achieve by making these comments? Why bother? To me, it read like they had actually approached Mourinho who told them that there was no chance, not the other way around. For me, they were lumbered with Moyes as Jose had already committed his future elsewhere.
 
You've backed yourself into a corner on this one chief and it would be easier to hold your hands up and concede that you're wrong. Belittling others on here and shooting them down simply because "you are right" is the sole reason that I am responding in an equally condescending and unpalatable manner.
 
I'll see your cuntishness, and raise you 10 cunt points.  

This forum has changed.

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

I don't know because the ones we have who are highly rated don't get to play and get loaned out for years at a time.
I'd rather we try to progress them that have Mikel who doesn't have much to his game at all IMO and hasn't improved in years.
I'd have kept Ramires over Mikel but again he himself wasn't good enough for the starting 11 but could offer more from the bench than Obi.
Conte will probably bring in his own players who will dominate the middle of the park, so I don't see the likes of Mikel getting much of a chance.

Hopefully he moves on, he's been decent this season but we need better players than Mikel to get back to the top of the pile.

I don't see how he fits in with Conte's team selection and I don't think he's been that great. He was exceptional against Palace and if he could play like that more than once a season then he's the type of player you could conceivably build a team around but he's not going to do that. It's a shame because if you go back and watch that match it's an almost perfect performance, up there with Fabregas's away at Arsenal and as good as you will see in this league.
 
It's also sadly a reminder of what could've been. He has every tool to be one of the best midfielders in the world. Physically and technically he's almost flawless. It's just the mental side that doesn't let him down as such, but he doesn't have that switch that truly great players have. In that Palace game he took responsibility and controlled the match and that's what great players do. He just doesn't do that anywhere near enough.

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

This forum has changed.

...and not for the better.

This forum has changed.

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

HI IDIOT I CAN USE CAPS TOO
 
Do you want the exact quote from the book, idiot? 
 
If so I'll happily dig it out for you when I get home this evening, idiot. 
 
Edit: here's a snapshot of those words, idiot. I have made it bold so that it is idiot-friendly. 
 
"‘We established that several very desirable candidates were unavailable. It became apparent that Jose Mourinho had given his word to Roman Abramovich that he would return to Chelsea and that Carlo Ancelotti would succeed him at Real Madrid. We also knew Jurgen Klopp was happy at Borussia Dortmund and would be signing a new contract". 

I'm sure you won't be surprised to learn that again I have deemed this latest post of yours as more unadulterated shite. 
 
Given that old red nose Ferguson is happy to hang all and sundry out to dry in each and every one of his published works, it is highly unlikely that he would unnecessarily pass comment on Mourinho's overt commitment to Abramovich and Chelsea at the time of the Moyes appointment.
 
What would Ferguson achieve by making these comments? Why bother? To me, it read like they had actually approached Mourinho who told them that there was no chance, not the other way around. For me, they were lumbered with Moyes as Jose had already committed his future elsewhere.
 
You've backed yourself into a corner on this one chief and it would be easier to hold your hands up and concede that you're wrong. Belittling others on here and shooting them down simply because "you are right" is the sole reason that I am responding in an equally condescending and unpalatable manner.
 
I'll see your cuntishness, and raise you 10 cunt points.  

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

HI IDIOT I CAN USE CAPS TOO
 
Do you want the exact quote from the book, idiot? 
 
If so I'll happily dig it out for you when I get home this evening, idiot. 
 
Edit: here's a snapshot of those words, idiot. I have made it bold so that it is idiot-friendly. 
 
"‘We established that several very desirable candidates were unavailable. It became apparent that Jose Mourinho had given his word to Roman Abramovich that he would return to Chelsea and that Carlo Ancelotti would succeed him at Real Madrid. We also knew Jurgen Klopp was happy at Borussia Dortmund and would be signing a new contract". 

I'm sure you won't be surprised to learn that again I have deemed this latest post of yours as more unadulterated shite. 
 
Given that old red nose Ferguson is happy to hang all and sundry out to dry in each and every one of his published works, it is highly unlikely that he would unnecessarily pass comment on Mourinho's overt commitment to Abramovich and Chelsea at the time of the Moyes appointment.
 
What would Ferguson achieve by making these comments? Why bother? To me, it read like they had actually approached Mourinho who told them that there was no chance, not the other way around. For me, they were lumbered with Moyes as Jose had already committed his future elsewhere.
 
You've backed yourself into a corner on this one chief and it would be easier to hold your hands up and concede that you're wrong. Belittling others on here and shooting them down simply because "you are right" is the sole reason that I am responding in an equally condescending and unpalatable manner.
 
I'll see your cuntishness, and raise you 10 cunt points.  

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

Italy are unbeaten in their qualification and finished top of their group.The national team has only lost once under him, in a friendly. He has  56% win ratio.
 
With Juventus his win % was over 67%. Jose's win ratio at Chelsea in his first spell is not as good as Conte's was at Juve, however for direct comparison in the same league, Jose had a win % of 62%, and I am pretty sure most people would say that Jose did OK in Italy.
 
Conte basically rebuilt Juve and took them back to the top of Italian football after years of turmoil. 
 
How on earth that is "not very good" is beyond me. 

HI IDIOT I CAN USE CAPS TOO
 
Do you want the exact quote from the book, idiot? 
 
If so I'll happily dig it out for you when I get home this evening, idiot. 
 
Edit: here's a snapshot of those words, idiot. I have made it bold so that it is idiot-friendly. 
 
"‘We established that several very desirable candidates were unavailable. It became apparent that Jose Mourinho had given his word to Roman Abramovich that he would return to Chelsea and that Carlo Ancelotti would succeed him at Real Madrid. We also knew Jurgen Klopp was happy at Borussia Dortmund and would be signing a new contract". 

HI IDIOT I CAN USE CAPS TOO
 
Do you want the exact quote from the book, idiot? 
 
If so I'll happily dig it out for you when I get home this evening, idiot. 
 
Edit: here's a snapshot of those words, idiot. I have made it bold so that it is idiot-friendly. 
 
"‘We established that several very desirable candidates were unavailable. It became apparent that Jose Mourinho had given his word to Roman Abramovich that he would return to Chelsea and that Carlo Ancelotti would succeed him at Real Madrid. We also knew Jurgen Klopp was happy at Borussia Dortmund and would be signing a new contract". 

I'm sure you won't be surprised to learn that again I have deemed this latest post of yours as more unadulterated shite. 
 
Given that old red nose Ferguson is happy to hang all and sundry out to dry in each and every one of his published works, it is highly unlikely that he would unnecessarily pass comment on Mourinho's overt commitment to Abramovich and Chelsea at the time of the Moyes appointment.
 
What would Ferguson achieve by making these comments? Why bother? To me, it read like they had actually approached Mourinho who told them that there was no chance, not the other way around. For me, they were lumbered with Moyes as Jose had already committed his future elsewhere.
 
You've backed yourself into a corner on this one chief and it would be easier to hold your hands up and concede that you're wrong. Belittling others on here and shooting them down simply because "you are right" is the sole reason that I am responding in an equally condescending and unpalatable manner.
 
I'll see your cuntishness, and raise you 10 cunt points.  

With all due respect, shite.
 
I had the misfortune of reading Sir Alex Ferguson's book, "leading", a few months ago. In it, Ferguson himself says that at the time of the David Moyes appointment, when possible successors were being discussed, that it was clear that Mourinho was going back to chelsea having already given his word to Abramovich that he would return. 
 
I think that stacks up as fairly comprehensive evidence to counter your grotesque passive aggressive attitude.