Posted January 22, 200916 yr http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...os1&cc=3436 Has no CFC players. I have always resented the complaints from Manu fans that CFC have bought their success.
January 22, 200916 yr The 'Chelsea bought success' argument was never about individual transfer fees and more about: 1. The cumulative amount we spent in such a short space of time (something like £125m in a few weeks) when Roman first took over followed by hefty amounts again when Jose took over. 2. That we didn't 'earn' the money as a club over years of building etc etc. You see Man Utd and Liverpool players go out fruit picking midweek to make the club's ends meet.
January 22, 200916 yr How long until that is full of Manchester City players? Man City will never get any good players until they make it into the champions league and thats going to be awhile yet
January 22, 200916 yr another thing that has always annoyed me is the nonsense that we came out of nowhere and roman's cash made us another blackburn...total ignorance...finished in the top six every year since 97, had won two fa cups, cup winners cup, league cup...came within four points of the title in 99 and qualified for champions league in season before roman arrived...and that's not even talking about our history before that...sure his money helped take us on to the final level of being champions, but it's not like what city are doing now...they are literally coming from nowhere and that's why no top class players like kaka are going there. united's spending which has been huge for years has always been ignored for some reason and they never get accused of buying success
January 22, 200916 yr I was having this argument for the umpteenth time in the pub last night. But some of the facts I came out with off the top of my head (I think they are right )... FACTS and they still argued with me. 1. We were Champions league and finished second before Roman came along. 2. We beat Spurs 6 1 at 3 point lane 3. We have no players of the 30 M mark when Utd have 3 (I think) 4. Kenyon for all his faults is true to his word.. initial investment to bring us up a level then break even by 2010, build a training facility and the best youth system, and maintain a wage structure (which contry to popular belief <The Sun, Sky Sports, Talksh*te> we have always maintained) 5. Unlike some other clubs I could mention close to bankruptcy Chelsea had more than just the Roman offer (source. Rick Glanvill's History book) We certainly splashed the cash and it contributed to our success no one can deny that, but I wish people would get their facts right.
January 22, 200916 yr 1. We were Champions league and finished second before Roman came along.3. We have no players of the 30 M mark when Utd have 3 (I think) These are the only ones I have a problem with: 1. Roman was here when Ranieri got us second. 3. We did have Shevvers?
January 22, 200916 yr we finished third in 99...first time we finished second was in roman's first season...sadly we spent £30.8m on a past his best sheva, but he joined after we'd won two titles...some major players that won us title were already here...jt, lamps, gallas, gudjohnsen Edited January 22, 200916 yr by The Brit
January 22, 200916 yr we finished third in 99...first time we finished second was in roman's first season...sadly we spent £30.8m on a past his best sheva, but he joined after we'd won two titles...some major players that won us title were already here...jt, lamps, gallas, gudjohnsen That's what I meant, :D
January 22, 200916 yr For what it's worth I agree with you. I think in recent years Man Ure have bought their success just as much as we have. And what they didn't buy they cheated or bullied the ref to win...
January 22, 200916 yr I found this when I searched for a list of record transfer fees: 1) Zinédine Zidane (Juventus --> Real Madrid) £46mil [2001]2) LuÃÂs Figo (Barcelona --> Real Madrid) £38,7mil [2000] 3) Hernán Crespo (Parma --> Lazio) £35,5mil [2000] 4) Gianluigi Buffon (Parma --> Juventus) £32,6mil [2001] 5) Robinho (Real Madrid --> Manchester City) £32,5mil [2008] 6) Christian Vieri (Lazio --> Internazionale) £32mil [1999] 7) Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan --> Chelsea) £30,8mil [2006] 8) Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham --> Manchester United) £30,75mil [2008] 9) Pavel NedvÄ›d (Lazio --> Juventus) £30,6mil [2001] 10) Rio Ferdinand (Leeds United --> Manchester United) £29,1mil [2002] 11) Gaizka Mendieta (Valencia --> Lazio) £29,0mil [2001] 12) Ronaldo (Internazionale --> Real Madrid) £28,49mil [2002] 13) Juan Sebastián Verón (Lazio --> Manchester United) £28,1mil [2001] 14) Wayne Rooney (Everton --> Manchester United) £27mil [2004] 15) Marc Overmars (Arsenal --> Barcelona) £25mil [2000]
January 22, 200916 yr I found this when I searched for a list of record transfer fees: Holy sh*t! I didn't realise Overmars left Arsenal for £25m! :D
January 22, 200916 yr £45million (give or take a few hundred grand) for 5 players? Oh no of course the Mancs don't buy success. Edited January 22, 200916 yr by Lofty
January 22, 200916 yr £45million (give or take a few hundred grand) for 5 players? Oh no of course the Mancs don't buy success. About £95mil for four players(Veron, Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov). What's the fifth player Lofty?
January 22, 200916 yr About £95mil for four players(Veron, Rooney, Ferdinand and Berbatov). What's the fifth player Lofty? It was supposed to be £145million but the "1" key on my keyboard seems to have gone on holiday. It's back now: 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 Just testing. Edit: I've got a dentist's appointment this afternoon. Obviously it's affecting my eyesight. Edited January 22, 200916 yr by Lofty
January 22, 200916 yr actually, i think its just around 105 for those four. But that should be a lesson to our ownership. You have to continue to spend money if you still want to be on top. I know our fiscal well isnt as deep as theirs in terms of revenues, but still. Also, that articleis a bizarre reminder of just how dominant Italian football was not too long ago in the world. You look at clubs like Juve and Milan now, and it would be a bizarre thing to see them breaking transfer records when they seem to have aging teams and older stars who clearly need reinforcement sometime soon. What a topsy turvy world football is.
January 22, 200916 yr These are the only ones I have a problem with:1. Roman was here when Ranieri got us second. we finished 4th the season before abramovic took over beat liverpool 2-1 on last day of season to qualify for the champs league (and ensure they didn't ) - jesper gronkaer with the winner lol
January 22, 200916 yr we finished 4th the season before abramovic took overbeat liverpool 2-1 on last day of season to qualify for the champs league (and ensure they didn't :D ) - jesper gronkaer with the winner lol Yes yes, I remember. It brought tears to my eyes :)
January 23, 200916 yr How many times have Man Yoooo broken the british transfer record ?, they been dong it since i can remember . The Chelsea haters are Chelsea haters because we gatecrashed their little party and all of a sudden there was a reason to worry .
January 23, 200916 yr The sad thing is clubhappy that there are a fair few Chelsea fans now just a guilty of it when it comes to Man City. Not to the same extent and in the same numbers as we were subject to but certainly a fair number. Even on here we now see people desperate for City to screw up so they can laugh at them yet before the takeover I don't recall anyone ever having a bad word to say about City in all the years the forums have been around.
January 23, 200916 yr The thing I hate about united's big money transfers is that they steal other premiership team's best players, like Tevez saving West Ham and then utd snatching him up. At least we take risks on foreign players and fail miserably.
January 23, 200916 yr Hmmm that probably isn't a line of argument I would recommend you stick to when debating this with Mancs mate!! Frank Lampard Joe Cole Glen Johnson SWP Wayne Bridge Damien Duff Scott Parker
