Lukaku isnt fit enough to play at the top level yet. By him throwing his toys out the pram it clearly shows he doesnt have the mental strength to play at the top level yet either.

Jose wanted him to stay. Ba was all set to join Arsenal. It was all but a done deal and then Lukaku tells the club he doesnt want to fight for his place and wants to leave. Well what do you do? Keep an unhappy player that clearly cant be bothered for stand and fight?

Lukaku can look like a beast but i have yet to see a game that he has played at full power for 90 minutes. At the top clubs you have to be able to play at the top of your game for at least 120 minutes. Lukaku can barely make 45. He either has a good first half or a good second half. At Everton he isnt asked to track back (which he would have to at Chelsea) because Roberto knows he cant go for too long.

It also annoys me that people just assume that if he stayed he would be banging in the goals for us. We will never know. Ba is a great striker, he has proved that at Newcastle but he struggles with us. Eto'o was the best striker on the planet for years and still has it but again he isnt as free flowing as he could be. So to say letting Lukaku go on loan is a mistake is just wrong imo. He isnt ready for the big time yet, he needs to grow up and get fitter. He clearly has talent but he needs a lot more work before being the number one guy at Chelsea!

There is no assumption. In the Premier League, he has been averaging a goal every 2 games playing for West Brom and Everton. That is much better than any of the strikers in your squad. If he had to sit on the bench watching misfiring strikers week in week out, his frustration is completely reasonable. If he ends up leaving, it will be a massive loss for you.

I dont think it will be as big of a loss than some people think.

Well, in a sense you're right, because you're not getting any contribution from him. But what a waste of potential. I think he could be your first choice striker for the next 10 years. Right now, I'd say he's the most difficult forward to mark in the PL.

What's bullsh*t? Your squad isn't settled and is barely out of second gear, but is at the top of the table. If it were firing, say for instance with a clinical striker like Lukaku, it would be easily in first place. How can you not see that?

 

That suggests to me we've got a world class manager, capable of grinding out results. 

 

The Lukaku loan was a good idea. He's still too raw and wouldn't get the space at Chelsea he gets at Everton. 

 

I would much rather him play week in, week out and get experience rather than the odd 90 minutes every other week.

Edited December 24, 201312 yr by JoeyN

No doubt about your manager's credentials, esp the grinding out results. But, by extension, wouldn't he be the one to get the best out of Lukaku?

But if Lukaku doesnt want to be here then why force him? An unhappy player isnt going to give his best is he.

No doubt about your manager's credentials, esp the grinding out results. But, by extension, wouldn't he be the one tk

o get the best out of Lukaku?

Not really, we need a striker able to consistently take the ball with his back to goal and bring others into play, arguably lukakus weakest part of his game at the moment. Also as uno said in his excellent post he simply doesn't gave the stamina to play 90 minutes at top level, and as many games are won in the final 10 this is a failing that will hopefully be rectified by a season of game time.

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? If you tell him that he will get his chances to earn his place in the team, wouldn't he be willing to try? Based on the performances of the other strikers, he probably would have by now.

From the outside, it looks like Jose thought, who the f**k are you to make demands of me? You're out of here. As a rival fan, I am loving it that he's not in your squad. I just can't understand it. You have a striking problem. And you have one if the best strikers in the league out on loan. There seems to be an obvious solution.

Fine. He's young. Raw. Whatever. If you had Aguero and Falcao upfront, I'd say what's the rush, loan him out. But your strikers are a major weakness. It's a bizarre situation to watch from a distance.

Lukaku isnt fit enough to play at the top level yet. By him throwing his toys out the pram it clearly shows he doesnt have the mental strength to play at the top level yet either.

Jose wanted him to stay. Ba was all set to join Arsenal. It was all but a done deal and then Lukaku tells the club he doesnt want to fight for his place and wants to leave. Well what do you do? Keep an unhappy player that clearly cant be bothered for stand and fight?

Lukaku can look like a beast but i have yet to see a game that he has played at full power for 90 minutes. At the top clubs you have to be able to play at the top of your game for at least 120 minutes. Lukaku can barely make 45. He either has a good first half or a good second half. At Everton he isnt asked to track back (which he would have to at Chelsea) because Roberto knows he cant go for too long.

It also annoys me that people just assume that if he stayed he would be banging in the goals for us. We will never know. Ba is a great striker, he has proved that at Newcastle but he struggles with us. Eto'o was the best striker on the planet for years and still has it but again he isnt as free flowing as he could be. So to say letting Lukaku go on loan is a mistake is just wrong imo. He isnt ready for the big time yet, he needs to grow up and get fitter. He clearly has talent but he needs a lot more work before being the number one guy at Chelsea!

 

I think that's the key point here. It's easy to look at him banging them in for Everton and think what a mistake it was to loan him out but if he had stayed here then nobody really knows what would have happened. His goal scoring has been impressive but he has also had quite a few indifferent games for Everton which, if he was still at Chelsea, would see him immediately dropped to the bench with one of the other three taking his place. At Everton he is being given the chance to play through the indifferent spells which is important for a striker to maintain his confidence and form. The Everton loan has definitely been the best thing for his development, which I'm hoping mean that it will turn out to be the best thing for Chelsea in the long term.

 

I also suspect there is a conflict of personalities between him and Mourinho, and Lukaku has some glaring weaknesses in his game that, like Mata, would probably make it very easy for the manager not to play him.

 

Of course, if we had the opportunity now then I'd take him back in a heartbeat and Everton would be welcome to have any of our other strikers (if they would even want them) in return, but that's not an option and I doubt that we would have seen the best of Lukaku if he had never gone out on loan.

dkw I can't comment on the 90 minutes criticism. But it seems like something that can be managed. And given the striking alternatives, it just seems to be such an odd sticking point.

You say you are loving him not being in our squad but it doesnt really hurt us. Right now he cant play against us but he can against all our rivals so if he is causing them trouble and making them drop points it seems like a great idea to me.

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? If you tell him that he will get his chances to earn his place in the team, wouldn't he be willing to try? Based on the performances of the other strikers, he probably would have by now.

From the outside, it looks like Jose thought, who the f**k are you to make demands of me?

Don't be so bloody daft.

A bit provocative wording, but you get my point. A clash of personalities.

Why does it have to be one extreme or the other? If you tell him that he will get his chances to earn his place in the team, wouldn't he be willing to try? Based on the performances of the other strikers, he probably would have by now.

 

Well, he is at everton, so no.

 

You claim he is one of the best strikers in the league because you watch his hilight reel. There is so much more involved that isn't answered simply with 'he scored a few times'.

Edited December 24, 201312 yr by Stim

Uno, I've read that reasoning before too, but it makes no sense when you don't have better strikers in your team.

Assuming he hadn't gone on loan, obviously.

Uno, I've read that reasoning before too, but it makes no sense when you don't have better strikers in your team.

You do know when he went on loan no one at the club was actually able to see into the future?

But there is nothing to say that if he had stayed he would be scoring either. So if he can be else where and learning his trade and making our rivals drop points then its a win win for us. Yes we are not scoring loads of goals each game but we are picking up points.

If you think we can only play each team twice so we can only pick up points against those teams then but we have a player that can make other teams drop points but cant play against us. Seems good to me.

Of course, hindsight is 20/20. But, there were a lot of people, myself included, who couldn't believe that you let him go to Everton on loan. I mean, you don't have to be a psychic to see that he would likely score more goals than Torres, for example.

Credit to you that you're so high up in the table given that you haven't hit your stride. All I'll say us that, as a rival fan, I'd much rather face the current Chelsea team than the exact same team with Lukaku starting up front. I think that says it all really.

Lukaku is mentally weak. Chelsea are known for strength and determination.

He seems to be doing just fine. And look at who is playing instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. If it were Drogba in his pomp, fair play. But it's not.

He seems to be doing just fine. And look at who is playing instead of Lukaku for Chelsea. If it were Drogba in his pomp, fair play. But it's not.

 

 

We are known for having real mental juggernauts up top specially at the moment - I mean you can't compare the likes of Torres; Ba and Eto'o to Lukaku all these players are so mentally strong   Specially Eto'o he has been mentally preparing himself in one of the toughest places on Earth - Siberia 

Of course, hindsight is 20/20. But, there were a lot of people, myself included, who couldn't believe that you let him go to Everton on loan. I mean, you don't have to be a psychic to see that he would likely score more goals than Torres, for example.

Credit to you that you're so high up in the table given that you haven't hit your stride. All I'll say us that, as a rival fan, I'd much rather face the current Chelsea team than the exact same team with Lukaku starting up front. I think that says it all really.

Actually you make a fair point there, most Chelsea supporters I know were looking forward to having him in the squad this season and were bewildered by the decision to loan him out, and it's only quite recently that a picture has emerged of possible personal differences and Lukaku himself pushing for the loan.

I still maintain that, thinking in the long term, the loan deal isn't such a bad mistake. Sure we're struggling to wring any goals from our current strikers, but I think Lukaku has improved much more quickly playing week in week out at Everton than he might have done if he had stayed here and been rotated in and out of the starting eleven (just look how badly Kevin De Bruyne's progress has stalled since returning from loan, another hot prospect we were very excited about before the start of the season). If we handle him right, we stand to benefit from the the confidence and experience Lukaku has gained next season and hopefully many seasons to come.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9087710/romelu-lukaku-insists-he-has-no-problems-with-chelsea-manager-jose-mourinho

 

Great read and apparently from Lukaku himself, it was he who wanted to leave and Mourinho wanted him to stay. Best part for me is when he says he wants to come back to Chelsea and become the best ever.