87 points

[Veeria]

I like most people now think we have little to no hope for the title, but I think it'll be down to us slipping up again. I can see the total of 87 points we would get from winning our remaining games would give us a very good chance. We would be above Liverpool but still rely on Man City slipping up twice. I'm not asking will we win all our games, I'm asking IF we win all our games would we finish top?

[axman2526]

No I do not think it would be enough to finish above City personally. 

 

What is really maddening is, with City drawing yesterday and still having Liverpool and Everton to play, we could have recovered from Villa if we had just won yesterday. We would be in good condition to win the title with just 3 more points than we have now. Frustrating...and disappointing...

[moi]

I like most people now think we have little to no hope for the title, but I think it'll be down to us slipping up again. I can see the total of 87 points we would get from winning our remaining games would give us a very good chance. We would be above Liverpool but still rely on Man City slipping up twice. I'm not asking will we win all our games, I'm asking IF we win all our games would we finish top?

 

 

You've already answered your own question - only if City lose theirs.  So yes, technically it is possible, providing City co-operate.

[The Gull]

City hasn't lost away in the league since November.  If you discount their loss to us in Feb, then it's been even longer than that at home.  

 

Sadly we are done, but it didn't have to be this way.  =/

[Veeria]

No I do not think it would be enough to finish above City personally. 

 

What is really maddening is, with City drawing yesterday and still having Liverpool and Everton to play, we could have recovered from Villa if we had just won yesterday. We would be in good condition to win the title with just 3 more points than we have now. Frustrating...and disappointing...

I kind of think a draw would of made a huge difference, in that case we could have needed city to lose one draw one, which doesn't sound at all impossible but now need them to lose twice, can see maybe one coming vs Liverpool but not sure elsewhere. I still can't see us winning all our games and if we don't we have 0 chance instead of the maybe 10% chance we currently have...

 

You've already answered your own question - only if City lose theirs.  So yes, technically it is possible, providing City co-operate.

Sort of answered my own question, maybe I should have asked if people actually believe city will drop the points we need them to

[Zeta]

It's game over guys. Liverpool are going to win it. And as such, I will probably need to take about 4 years off and focus on non-league football before I can stomach watching/listening/reading anything related to the PL.

[Fatty_Speeding]

Manchester City need to lose twice due to their goal difference, not just slip up twice. Saying that 87 points probably would be enough, there's still a few games left and in addition to having to get through Liverpool away Manchester City will probably drop points that we wouldn't expect them to, this being the Premier League and all.

 

Don't see how we can have this thread without being allowed to discuss the likelihood of us winning every remaining game though.

[Veeria]

Manchester City need to lose twice due to their goal difference, not just slip up twice. Saying that 87 points probably would be enough, there's still a few games left and in addition to having to get through Liverpool away Manchester City will probably drop points that we wouldn't expect them to, this being the Premier League and all.

 

Don't see how we can have this thread without being allowed to discuss the likelihood of us winning every remaining game though.

Of course we can talk about it, but I feel that's a whole different issue, I am just thinking more about other teams situations, I honestly can see another palace/villa before the end of the season, maybe we won't lose but a draw purhaps, have no real confidence

[Veeria]

It's game over guys. Liverpool are going to win it. And as such, I will probably need to take about 4 years off and focus on non-league football before I can stomach watching/listening/reading anything related to the PL.

Liverpools maximum points would be 89 so if they don't win all their games they'll be on 87 or 86, if its not enough for us to win it why would it be enough for them, they have more momentum than us but still don't think they'll win every remaining game

[Jonty]

It's never been in our hands, City will win the title and even had we taken 4 points out of the Villa/Palace games it wouldn't have been enough, you'll see.

[barak81]

Manchester City need to lose twice due to their goal difference, not just slip up twice. Saying that 87 points probably would be enough, there's still a few games left and in addition to having to get through Liverpool away Manchester City will probably drop points that we wouldn't expect them to, this being the Premier League and all.

 

Don't see how we can have this thread without being allowed to discuss the likelihood of us winning every remaining game though.

once loss one draw would do actually.

[Veeria]

once loss one draw would do actually.

Can see that loss coming vs lpool and a draw can come from anywhere, one of thier games in hand maybe.

Honestly don't think it's all over if we can win the last 6 we have a fair shout. Well see what happens in the city Liverpool game but is unlikely but still not over

Edited March 30, 2014 by Veeria

[Fatty_Speeding]

once loss one draw would do actually.

We're 2 points ahead of them, they have 2 games in hand, so really they're 4 points ahead of us. With goal difference it's pretty much 5 points. Therefore 2 losses are needed by them.

[Veeria]

We're 2 points ahead of them, they have 2 games in hand, so really they're 4 points ahead of us. With goal difference it's pretty much 5 points. Therefore 2 losses are needed by them.

They are 2 points behind, if they lose one game in hand and draw the other they will be 1 point behind, then if we both win all of our games we stay 1 ahead

[Xfaxtor]

Still cant believe Villa and Crystal f**king Palace have derailed our title hopes

[Fatty_Speeding]

They are 2 points behind, if they lose one game in hand and draw the other they will be 1 point behind, then if we both win all of our games we stay 1 ahead

Well, I'm going to bed.

[Mummy]

classic stuff veeria and fatty!

 

we need to beat pool obviously and cheer for them beating city..then hope for a few draws in there...some of these relagation teams will be tricky in the end...our situation isn't as bad as it seems!!!!

 

SOMEONE PLAY THAT sh*tE JOURNEY SONG!!!

[Veeria]

classic stuff veeria and fatty!

 

we need to beat pool obviously and cheer for them beating city..then hope for a few draws in there...some of these relagation teams will be tricky in the end...our situation isn't as bad as it seems!!!!

 

SOMEONE PLAY THAT sh*tE JOURNEY SONG!!!

I said before yesterday we could have one slip up. I think ill be singing Rick Astley until someone else lifts the trophy

[jack_super_class]

Still think we can do it, If City had easy games i wouldn't think so but they have Everton and Liverpool away and they always seem to lose at Everton. Plus our record against the big teams this season is excellent so that gives me confidence going to Anfield. I'd love us to win there.

[axman2526]

I can see events conspiring to set it up so Liverpool can win the title, in front of their own fans to much media adulation, against us. 

 

One way or another you can be certain they will beat us at Anfield.

[jack_super_class]

Sky Sports and BBC have literally just turned into Liverpool TV.

[axman2526]

Yup, why I have no doubts that the title will end up with them, too many things flowing to them now.

[Mummy]

i don't think so axman, would be the worst team since blackburn to lift the trophy...liverpool are due for a bad result

[Veeria]

Started this a while ago but definitely worth a revisit, if we win all our games we just need one draw from city now and we'd then win the league, winning all our games is of course hard but this is a hypothetical question that I think has been answered today, if we get all of ours points well almost definitely be top.

[middleweight]

I cannot wait for us to ruin Steven Gerrards season