Posted July 18, 201410 yr After all the potential sales are done and any other income has been calculated, how much money can we realistically spend on players this summer?
July 18, 201410 yr Well what have we spent so far, lets see: Costa £32 mil Fabregas £30 mil Luis £15 mil Pasalic £3 mil (edit: forgot about him) So far thats £80 million and we made a fair bit of money in January plus the sale of Luiz, so we can probably afford to spend another £40 mil I'd say but it really does depend on who else goes and who we want Edited July 18, 201410 yr by Bobbywoodhogan
July 18, 201410 yr good question. Nobody knows exactly what we got for the Luiz sale - some say £40 million, others say £50 million. Likewise, what did we pay for Filipe Luis? £20 million or €20 million? Being prudent and erring on the side of caution, lets assume the worst in terms of the above. Therefore: Outs Luiz & Ba - c.£45m Ins Costa (£32), Fabregas (£27?), Pasalic (£3) & Luis (£20) - c.£82m Net so far £37m The question is, what are we prepared to cap it at? £50 million? The thing that frustrates me is that we have the likes of Marin, Bertrand, Moses, and Mikel on the books, who we could assume would generate a combined £20 - £25 million? And what is it that we realistically need in terms of players? My guess would be one more striker and a CM. I think it's safe to say we arent going to be going for the likes of Pogba at the reported £60m mark, given our net spend already in this window. A lot also depends on the sale of Lukaku - if we do indeed sell him. I think the club will be looking to break about as even as possible on transfers and so any really significant signings are likely to be followed by signifcant sales, the most likely suspects being Ramires and Lukaku. My guess will be a striker at around the £10 - £15 million mark (Remy / Bony?), the CM situation I have no clue - the fact Romeu was offered a new deal perhaps indicates that Jose feels we are stocked in that position with Cesc, Rambo, Matic, Romeu, Mikel (shudder), Van Ginkel all capable of playing there. This post answers none of your questions. In fact, this post is sh*te.
July 18, 201410 yr good question. Nobody knows exactly what we got for the Luiz sale - some say £40 million, others say £50 million. Likewise, what did we pay for Filipe Luis? £20 million or €20 million? Being prudent and erring on the side of caution, lets assume the worst in terms of the above. Therefore: Outs Luiz & Ba - c.£45m Ins Costa (£32), Fabregas (£27?), Pasalic (£3) & Luis (£20) - c.£82m Net so far £37m The question is, what are we prepared to cap it at? £50 million? The thing that frustrates me is that we have the likes of Marin, Bertrand, Moses, and Mikel on the books, who we could assume would generate a combined £20 - £25 million? And what is it that we realistically need in terms of players? My guess would be one more striker and a CM. I think it's safe to say we arent going to be going for the likes of Pogba at the reported £60m mark, given our net spend already in this window. A lot also depends on the sale of Lukaku - if we do indeed sell him. I think the club will be looking to break about as even as possible on transfers and so any really significant signings are likely to be followed by signifcant sales, the most likely suspects being Ramires and Lukaku. My guess will be a striker at around the £10 - £15 million mark (Remy / Bony?), the CM situation I have no clue - the fact Romeu was offered a new deal perhaps indicates that Jose feels we are stocked in that position with Cesc, Rambo, Matic, Romeu, Mikel (shudder), Van Ginkel all capable of playing there. This post answers none of your questions. In fact, this post is sh*te. Its not its actually a tough question to answer as we have no idea what the actual finances are etcBut you say we need a CM and a striker, O agree on striker but I think we have more than enough midfielders, also its been reported Jose wants another defender and a striker. Edited July 18, 201410 yr by Bobbywoodhogan
July 18, 201410 yr Very much back of a fag packet but the first thing we had to do was is the 2013/14 accounting year make turn around the previous years losses to ensure that we would be ok over the 3 year FFP cycle.The sale of Mata, KDB, increased TV monies and the improved sponsorship deal would have more than achieved that with about £30 million spare When you sign a player their transfer fee is written off over the term of their contract so say you sign 3 players who cost £100 million all on 5 year deals excluding their wages you need to account for £20 million extra a year. In respect of players that have departed since Dec 2013 very little of the transfer fee for the likes of Frank, Ash & Essien would be available to be factored in but for the likes of Mata, Luiz & Ba we would have saved about £10 million a year. In the current financial year we have already sold Luiz for about £25 million profit and on the face of it we seem to have sold Ba for a small accounting profit.No doubt others will follow but just as important is the fact that it seems likely that when the transfer window closes the comings and goings added to the fact that RDM is no longer being paid by the club. So back to your question my guess is that we can probably spend about £120-£150 million( about £70 million already spent) &another £200-£300K a week of wages still available. But as I say very much back of the fag packet type of calculations
July 18, 201410 yr After all the potential sales are done and any other income has been calculated, how much money can we realistically spend on players this summer? I saw this Chelsea can easily afford to spend £150m in the transfer market this summer http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/6/5/5777740/chelsea-summer-transfer-budget
July 18, 201410 yr Truthfully, I think if the players there, we dont care. The issue we have to consider now is what players are available who will actually improve the first team for a reasonable cost. Looking at the first team, I cant really see a position we could improve on without massive outlay for marginal gains. CM could be one but the like of Khediera would only be slightly better than Ramires, (who himself is behind Fabregas and Matic in the bidding), the next level up would cost astronomical amounts. Central defence would be one position but realistically to improve we'd have to spend £30+ mil on Mangala or Varane. As at now, unless we get Torres, all the other expendables out of the club, I cant see any real player movement. We are obviously going to be linked with moves, I think the noises around Lukaku are too loud to believe he'll be here next year, Pobga is unrealistc, and virtually any other midfielder who is available wouldnt be a massive improvement (I wouldnt say no to Khediera though) maybe a Centre back as cover. I think were in a very good place in the market, weve bought extrememly well whilst only selling unwanted players and will go into next year as marginal favourites.
July 18, 201410 yr Very much back of a fag packet but the first thing we had to do was is the 2013/14 accounting year make turn around the previous years losses to ensure that we would be ok over the 3 year FFP cycle.The sale of Mata, KDB, increased TV monies and the improved sponsorship deal would have more than achieved that with about £30 million spare When you sign a player their transfer fee is written off over the term of their contract so say you sign 3 players who cost £100 million all on 5 year deals excluding their wages you need to account for £20 million extra a year. In respect of players that have departed since Dec 2013 very little of the transfer fee for the likes of Frank, Ash & Essien would be available to be factored in but for the likes of Mata, Luiz & Ba we would have saved about £10 million a year. In the current financial year we have already sold Luiz for about £25 million profit and on the face of it we seem to have sold Ba for a small accounting profit.No doubt others will follow but just as important is the fact that it seems likely that when the transfer window closes the comings and goings added to the fact that RDM is no longer being paid by the club. So back to your question my guess is that we can probably spend about £120-£150 million( about £70 million already spent) &another £200-£300K a week of wages still available. But as I say very much back of the fag packet type of calculations Amortization covers total value of the player- wages + fee
July 18, 201410 yr If Lukaku stays then we wont need anymore attackers. The only thing that we need in the whole team right now is another midfielder and I think we are done. Ramires isn't a reliable player but he will be effective if he is a squad player, Fabregas I'm not so sure if he's going to play in midfield or further up.
July 18, 201410 yr I think alots riding on Lukaku's decision to sign this supposed new deal he's been offered. Personally I don't see the need for another midfielder at all. Edited July 18, 201410 yr by Bobbywoodhogan
July 18, 201410 yr Author I saw this Chelsea can easily afford to spend £150m in the transfer market this summer http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/6/5/5777740/chelsea-summer-transfer-budget Do you think that's true, though? All we really have to go on is the media's guesswork of sales and money from certain deals, but if that is true, then we still have a fair amount we can spend.
July 18, 201410 yr WAGNH uses the highest reported price in case of purchases and lowest in case of sales. So if anything we'll have more not less.
July 18, 201410 yr We might be done, if Mourinho is telling the truth: http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/7/18/5916817/mourinho-chelsea-are-now-done-in-the-transfer-market-for-this-year? I think we are missing the final piece in midfield. I don't think Ramires and Mikel are good enough to dominate it alongside Matic and I see Fabregas in a more advanced creative role. It will also be intressting to see what happens with Lukaku, if he dosen't sign a new contract then we need to sell.
