14 minutes ago, brakeit said:

I was against to give 100mln. for him. I was for 60-70 plus addons. And United took him for 75.

If he was Conte number 1 target, they should give the money. 75mln. in today market for top striker who is only 24 and improve year after year is nothing.

 

Lmao you just said 60 mill no more just wait a few pages back and that was exactly what the board did and now hes gone

Very glad Chelsea didn't pay everton any silly money for Lukaku. I like him as a player, gutted when he left. Let's stop acting like he didn't reject us before as well because he wanted more first team football. I don't blame him for it, any young player with confidence in his ability should do the same. Truth is i feel that is the season he would have gotten his chance (rotational). If he really wants to lead the line it will be possible at united as they are less Zlatan whose shoes Lukaku would fit into beautifully. Its ironic it will be for a manager that couldn't guarantee him to lead the line at Chelsea. I would like to see more Chelsea youth players take the approach he has taken. If Chelsea want to treat players like a business commodity, its fair game those players act in tow and operate without any emotional affiliations but simply look out for their own best interests. Tough thing to say as a fan but I'm no hypocrite. Not calling out anyone but talking about me. My view. We deserve all we get cause its operational policy coming back to bite us. Wen you operate in a "business" environment like we clearly have been there are certain business risks you must accept. From a business point of view, we have a circa £500m business investment (stadium) on the horizon. We have got nearly 1/3 of that from player sales in the last year alone. This is the time to accept under-performance in the league whilst we look to our new stadium and during the time bed in the youngsters from our so called "world class academy facilities". What, we can't handle 3 seasons of being crap again? I for one believe in those boys. They may not do a Monaco but we will do okay as a transitional phase.  

Edited July 7, 20179 yr by abister1

4 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Lmao you just said 60 mill no more just wait a few pages back and that was exactly what the board did and now hes gone

Did you realize i`m just a fan, not the guy who work for Chelsea and earn millions of pounds ? I could not know the entire situation and that United was interested. The board should know and that there will be consequences.

The failed once again and someone should be fired. Emanalo or Marina. Roman should act or we could lose the best coach right now.

 

 

2 hours ago, ManXunited said:

Have to admit if Lukaku signs for United then it leaves Chelsea with a small problem of finding a striker who can hit the ground running. Top 4/6 is too tight to wait for a striker to bed in for a season. But I think there's probably a surprise striker lined up by Chelsea.

 

I would worry more about Lukaku hitting the ground running if i were you. The relationship with Jose is very touchy, and it won't take much for Jose to start talking him down if he does'nt come up with the goods, we all know what Jose can be like, and Lukau does not strike me as the kind of player who will react positively to Jose's bad mouth. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if Jose is actively after another forward, just in case.

 

But would you very pleased when he make United Champions ?
Every top team need striker like Lukaku and Kane, not like Morata. Striker need to give you goals, need to score.
Costa won us so many games in the first half of the season against small team, that bring you the trophy in the end of the campaing.
Big matches are important, but we was the team that lose least points against the smallest team, that what brings us the title last year.
And for that you need striker who score regularly against such small teams. Morata is not such type of striker, that`s why he won`t be good fit for us.
In the past we have great wingers and midfielder, who scored a lot of goals. Now we don`t have. You can barely expect goals from Matic/Kante, even Kante/Bakayoko.
In the past Lampard, Balack, Essien, has scored plenty of goals for us, and we wasn`t so dependent on the striker itself.

Right now we are, so you need a striker, who will give you atleast 20 PL goals, and probably 25-30 total.
Lukaku is also good against big teams, since he came to England he scored a lot of goals against Big teams, to be fair - 19.
Thats against Totteham, United, City, Arsenal and US. Show me Strikers that scored more.
Lukaku was the best choice for us, without a doubt.
 

Yeah you pretty much rinsed the league when it came beating the small teams. 30 odd games won? F**kn hell

1 minute ago, brakeit said:

Did you realize i`m just a fan

 

Oh Im perfectly aware. Just found it amusing that Ive argued this point with you before about prices being inflated and you thought spending that much was a bad idea. Untill we didnt sign your favourite player then you do a complete 180 and the board has blown it. Its quite comical

Sometimes it`s not worth to overpay, for a 30years old player for example. For a 24 player that is top class and improve year after year, yeat its worth to overpay.

That is my point. It`s always depend on player and price. I would be against 100mln. for Lukaku. But to overpay only 10 or 15mln. for a guy like Lukaku and get the deal done for 75mln. is a good thing. Especially when he is the first choice for the manager.

 

I would worry more about Lukaku hitting the ground running if i were you. The relationship with Jose is very touchy, and it won't take much for Jose to start talking him down if he does'nt come up with the goods, we all know what Jose can be like, and Lukau does not strike me as the kind of player who will react positively to Jose's bad mouth. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if Jose is actively after another forward, just in case.
 

Lukaku on Mourinho in December 2015:

"Everyone says it is Mourinho's fault but it is not his fault because I made the decision [to leave Chelsea]. I went to his office to ask if I could go.

"I signed the deal with Everton at 11 o'clock and the first text message I got on my old BlackBerry was from Mourinho saying: 'Good luck, do your best and I will see you next season.' He was the first. Nobody knows that and that is why for me he gets immense respect."

7 minutes ago, coco said:

I would worry more about Lukaku hitting the ground running if i were you. The relationship with Jose is very touchy, and it won't take much for Jose to start talking him down if he does'nt come up with the goods, we all know what Jose can be like, and Lukau does not strike me as the kind of player who will react positively to Jose's bad mouth. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if Jose is actively after another forward, just in case.

 

Personally i don't understand how this move was put together so quickly especially as Lukaku had been teasing about knowing where he was going(assumed to be Chelsea). If that was true and at the last minute his old manager that never gave him a chance now gazumped us for his signature i don't think that's the type of player i want. I want a player that bleeds for us, a player that there is no doubt about his allegiances. A player that has made so much noise about love for us, plays for us but leaves us and has an opportunity to come back but goes elsewhere shouldn't be one we shed tears or lose sleep over. See if the love was that great and it was me i'd be saying, i'm running my contract at everton down so Chelsea can get me for cheap when my contract is up. (I know, let me have my moment of being a dreamer). Today's football. No loyalty in the game.

6 minutes ago, brakeit said:

Sometimes it`s not worth to overpay, for a 30years old player for example. For a 24 player that is top class and improve year after year, yeat its worth to overpay.

That is my point. It`s always depend on player and price. I would be against 100mln. for Lukaku. But to overpay only 10 or 15mln. for a guy like Lukaku and get the deal done for 75mln. is a good thing. Especially when he is the first choice for the manager.

 

Lmao, yeah indsight is 20/20 and all. Fact of the matter is the Board went about just the way you thought they should and when it went tits up they all blew it. That to me is hillarious and the modern fan in a nutshell.

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Mourinho said: “Romelu is a young boy who likes to speak – but the only thing he doesn’t say is why he went to Everton on loan.

“My last contact with him was to ask him that. Why do you never say why you are not here?

“It’s something he should talk about because he likes to speak – the reason why he’s not with Chelsea but is with Everton. One day he scored and he said he hoped Jose was watching – as if saying, ‘Why did he let me go?’ So that’s what I’m telling him, ‘Tell the country why you left’.

 

 

Jose and Lukaku, two people who like to talk.

Not bothered at the moment. I just hope we get someone. I like Batschauyi and think he should be given a chance, but he can't do it all on his own. 

Just bang in a £85m bid for Lukaku and secretly do a deal with Madrid for £60m for Morata...let Eversh*te think they've got the bidding war they want and then walk away with Morata's signature leaving manure to spank inflated money for Lukaku or Eversh*te empty handed with a depreciating asset...

Evertonian here in peace, though it looks like at least one of you can't keep his emotions under control, Eversh*te indeed, how imaginative. Not claiming to be a top ITK, but pretty certain on Merseyside that the deal is not done and in point of fact it is United who have rushed out a story in the hope of pushing a deal through, it's also generally believed that the offer is more like £85m as it includes £10m for Rooney (don't ask). As with Stones, Everton don't have to sell and don't want to sell, he still has 2.5 years on his contract, so talk of greed is a tad wide of the mark, though who would blame us. 

2 minutes ago, Blue62 said:

Evertonian here in peace, though it looks like at least one of you can't keep his emotions under control, Eversh*te indeed, how imaginative. Not claiming to be a top ITK, but pretty certain on Merseyside that the deal is not done and in point of fact it is United who have rushed out a story in the hope of pushing a deal through, it's also generally believed that the offer is more like £85m as it includes £10m for Rooney (don't ask). As with Stones, Everton don't have to sell and don't want to sell, he still has 2.5 years on his contract, so talk of greed is a tad wide of the mark, though who would blame us. 

Well a small club like yours should make the most out of your assets...you need to consolidate your Saxo position as a regular Europa Cup team...good luck to you fella 

Evertonian here in peace, though it looks like at least one of you can't keep his emotions under control, Eversh*te indeed, how imaginative. Not claiming to be a top ITK, but pretty certain on Merseyside that the deal is not done and in point of fact it is United who have rushed out a story in the hope of pushing a deal through, it's also generally believed that the offer is more like £85m as it includes £10m for Rooney (don't ask). As with Stones, Everton don't have to sell and don't want to sell, he still has 2.5 years on his contract, so talk of greed is a tad wide of the mark, though who would blame us. 

Only 10m?

It's 10m more than most clubs would pay for him.

A brutally efficient (recently) business juggernaut, i'll give your club that. But the risk......... not now, years down the line will struggle to get good business done with the likes of Chelsea. (may not be the case, but the risk is there)

3 minutes ago, abister1 said:

A brutally efficient (recently) business juggernaut, i'll give your club that. But the risk......... not now, years down the line will struggle to get good business done with the likes of Chelsea. (may not be the case, but the risk is there)

Look at the relationship between Spurs and Chelsea...neither would give each other the steam off their piss...middle league teams like Eversh*te can't afford to burn bridges when it comes to attract loan players etc. 

Edited July 7, 20179 yr by doctorblue

21 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

Well a small club like yours should make the most out of your assets...you need to consolidate your Saxo position as a regular Europa Cup team...good luck to you fella 

Chelsea were my second team growing up, the likes of Webb, Cooke and Osgood were among my favourites, you were a small club back then so things change and there's an old saying about how you treat people when you're on the way up! 

As for Everton in the transfer market, i don't think the people in to boardrooms have quite the same passion as us fans and therefore don't bear grudges in quite the same way, it's strictly business for them.

2 minutes ago, Blue62 said:

Chelsea were my second team growing up, the likes of Webb, Cooke and Osgood were among my favourites, you were a small club back then so things change and there's an old saying about how you treat people when you're on the way up! 

As for Everton in the transfer market, i don't think the people in to boardrooms have quite the same passion as us fans and therefore don't bear grudges in quite the same way, it's strictly business for them.

You clearly don't know our history mate and you also have no idea about how Daniel Levy operates...

Edited July 7, 20179 yr by doctorblue

Not a fan of Lukaku myself but if Conte indeed wanted him then it has turned into a bit of a disaster.

 

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/antonio-conte-fury-chelsea-lose-romelu-lukaku-to-man-utd-alvaro-morata-hope-a3582346.html

I think it'll prove to be a blessing in disguise as Real are desperate to offload Morata and James Rodriguez to fund their Mbappe deal...they were playing hardball with manure over the price for Morata now with manure looking at Lukaku they must be getting twitchy...wouldn't be surprised if we put in a combined 100m euro offer for both of them...btw the money for Lukaku is rumored to be around £85-90m with some discount for fat boy Rooney...

Edited July 7, 20179 yr by doctorblue

1 hour ago, Blue62 said:

Evertonian here in peace, though it looks like at least one of you can't keep his emotions under control, Eversh*te indeed, how imaginative.

I would have thought you would be used to that kind of thing, I go on other forums and see us called Chelski and such like, but i wouldn't dream of going on their forums and complaining about it, rise above it.

This embryonic Lukaku transfer is already being hailed as a huge coup for United and a major statement of intent, the suggestion now being made that the Belgian was Jose’s first-choice all along, but something about that claim simply does not add up ...

Remember United moved for Antoine Griezmann first and when he elected to remain at Atletico Madrid they turned their attention to Alvaro Morata, with no mention made of Lukaku at the time. Then, after a month of negotiations and desperate meetings Real still would not back down on their original €90m valuation. So, bearing all this in mind, was Lukaku really Jose's first choice, or his third? Okay, he fits the Special One's usual template of being a physical presence with the stamina he insists upon, having played 95 per cent of the total available minutes in last season’s league campaign, whereas Morata has never played more than 43%, but it is the damning evidence that stacks up against him to the greater degree:-

a) Lukaku has hardly any European football experience compared to Morata and Griezmann, who have both played in Champions League finals.

b) his touch and control have always left a lot to be desired.

c) he has little of the defensive nous of a Didier or the off-the-ball intensity of a Diego, qualities Jose usually demands of his target man.

d) statistics also confirm that he lost possession 584 times last season, whereas for Morata that figure stands at only179, albeit because he played far fewer games, but when adjusted for pitch time Lukaku is still 25% more likely to lose the ball than the Spaniard, doing so every 3.5 touches.

e) he requires teams to play to his own strengths, whereas Morata and Griezmann do not.

Taking all this into account, it is more likely that any interest we allegedly had in Lukaku was driven by technical director Michael Emenalo right from the outset, with his triumphant return [hopefully] emphasising Jose's error in getting rid of him in the first place. This interpretation of events would go some way towards explaining Conte's distinct lack of enthusiasm for either the ultimate completion of a deal or the positioning of him in the press as the pursuer of Lukaku as his No.1 target. In short, if all this media hype had had any basis whatsoever, why on earth would we not at least put in a bid for the guy at some stage and be seen to be backing the manager?

No, what we have done is back him in the right and proper way, by staying well clear of a shabby, stage-managed affair preferring instead to support the boss in his pursuit of the targets he really wants.